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Have any of you heard of a bill before Congress that proposes ending all peripheral payments like layover, detention, and unloading pay??? My connection is so slow that I can barely sign on here, or I'd do THIS research myself!!!
I wouldn't put it past the lobbyists, but why take away the chance to financially redeem SOME of the time drivers have to wait due to no negligence of their own???
I think it was House Bill 4441, but can't remember the section. If you find something, ANYTHING, about this and how it stands on being approved, PLEASE POST HERE.
It may just happen that I'll be returning to the road, soon, and I'm APPALLED that such a thing has even been presented before Congress!
Thanks in hope and advance,
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By Jami Jones, Land Line managing editor
An aviation bill in the U.S. House of Representatives includes key language that could have a far-reaching effect on truck driver pay.

The Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization Act, HR4441, is a bill that, obviously, largely deals with authorization and reform of aviation programs. Nestled in the legislative language is a provision pushed by large motor carriers.

That provision could have a far-reaching effect on the way truck drivers are compensated, according to the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association.

Section 611 was inserted in HR4441, dubbed the AIRR Act for short, in response to a U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit decision that upheld meal and rest break pay for employee drivers in California.

“Driver pay and situations where a driver’s time is taken advantage of without compensation most certainly should be addressed,” OOIDA Executive Vice President Todd Spencer said. “While the section of the aviation bill is intended as a response to the California meal and rest break law, its implications go well beyond that state. Its ultimate impact on all states is simply not known.”

If the bill is passed with Section 611 intact, motor carriers could only have to pay drivers on a piecework or per-mile basis. Gone could be any chance at pay for detention time, safety inspections, paperwork, or any other work-related tasks that do not involve racking up miles. It could also gut the ability of states to individually address these sorts of issues in the future, according to OOIDA.

“It would be irresponsible of Congress to enact narrowly targeted legislation without fully comprehending the impact it will have on drivers nationwide,” Spencer said.

The language is similar to an amendment that Rep. Jeff Denham, R-Calif., attempted to get included in the highway bill, Fixing America’s Surface Transportation Act or FAST Act. OOIDA successfully fought to prevent the amendment’s inclusion into the final bill signed into law in December 2015.

The lack of congressional discussion on the issue provides reason for pause as well, according to Spencer.

“This is not a provision that proponents are saying exactly how it would play out, what problem it fixes. It’s not been subject to any hearing, any discussion,” Spencer said. “You can count on OOIDA opposing any legislation that has the potential to limit the amount or manner in which truck drivers are compensated.”

OOIDA issued a Call to Action mobilizing members as well as their friends and families to call lawmakers in the U.S. House to oppose Section 611.

Spencer said time is short to let lawmakers know that truck drivers are opposed to not being compensated for work performed – all work performed.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]Aviation bill new battleground over truck driver pay
By Jami Jones, Land Line managing editor
An aviation bill in the U.S. House of Representatives includes key language that could have a far-reaching effect on truck driver pay.

The Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization Act, HR4441, is a bill that, obviously, largely deals with authorization and reform of aviation programs. Nestled in the legislative language is a provision pushed by large motor carriers.

That provision could have a far-reaching effect on the way truck drivers are compensated, according to the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association.

Section 611 was inserted in HR4441, dubbed the AIRR Act for short, in response to a U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit decision that upheld meal and rest break pay for employee drivers in California.

“Driver pay and situations where a driver’s time is taken advantage of without compensation most certainly should be addressed,” OOIDA Executive Vice President Todd Spencer said. “While the section of the aviation bill is intended as a response to the California meal and rest break law, its implications go well beyond that state. Its ultimate impact on all states is simply not known.”

If the bill is passed with Section 611 intact, motor carriers could only have to pay drivers on a piecework or per-mile basis. Gone could be any chance at pay for detention time, safety inspections, paperwork, or any other work-related tasks that do not involve racking up miles. It could also gut the ability of states to individually address these sorts of issues in the future, according to OOIDA.

“It would be irresponsible of Congress to enact narrowly targeted legislation without fully comprehending the impact it will have on drivers nationwide,” Spencer said.

The language is similar to an amendment that Rep. Jeff Denham, R-Calif., attempted to get included in the highway bill, Fixing America’s Surface Transportation Act or FAST Act. OOIDA successfully fought to prevent the amendment’s inclusion into the final bill signed into law in December 2015.

The lack of congressional discussion on the issue provides reason for pause as well, according to Spencer.

“This is not a provision that proponents are saying exactly how it would play out, what problem it fixes. It’s not been subject to any hearing, any discussion,” Spencer said. “You can count on OOIDA opposing any legislation that has the potential to limit the amount or manner in which truck drivers are compensated.”

OOIDA issued a Call to Action mobilizing members as well as their friends and families to call lawmakers in the U.S. House to oppose Section 611.

Spencer said time is short to let lawmakers know that truck drivers are opposed to not being compensated for work performed – all work performed.

Sign up for eNews here and get all of Land Line’s headlines, features and special reports delivered to your inbox on a daily basis, absolutely free. All it takes is an email address.




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By Jami Jones, Land Line managing editor
An aviation bill in the U.S. House of Representatives includes key language that could have a far-reaching effect on truck driver pay.

The Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization Act, HR4441, is a bill that, obviously, largely deals with authorization and reform of aviation programs. Nestled in the legislative language is a provision pushed by large motor carriers.

That provision could have a far-reaching effect on the way truck drivers are compensated, according to the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association.

Section 611 was inserted in HR4441, dubbed the AIRR Act for short, in response to a U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit decision that upheld meal and rest break pay for employee drivers in California.

“Driver pay and situations where a driver’s time is taken advantage of without compensation most certainly should be addressed,” OOIDA Executive Vice President Todd Spencer said. “While the section of the aviation bill is intended as a response to the California meal and rest break law, its implications go well beyond that state. Its ultimate impact on all states is simply not known.”

If the bill is passed with Section 611 intact, motor carriers could only have to pay drivers on a piecework or per-mile basis. Gone could be any chance at pay for detention time, safety inspections, paperwork, or any other work-related tasks that do not involve racking up miles. It could also gut the ability of states to individually address these sorts of issues in the future, according to OOIDA.

“It would be irresponsible of Congress to enact narrowly targeted legislation without fully comprehending the impact it will have on drivers nationwide,” Spencer said.

The language is similar to an amendment that Rep. Jeff Denham, R-Calif., attempted to get included in the highway bill, Fixing America’s Surface Transportation Act or FAST Act. OOIDA successfully fought to prevent the amendment’s inclusion into the final bill signed into law in December 2015.

The lack of congressional discussion on the issue provides reason for pause as well, according to Spencer.

“This is not a provision that proponents are saying exactly how it would play out, what problem it fixes. It’s not been subject to any hearing, any discussion,” Spencer said. “You can count on OOIDA opposing any legislation that has the potential to limit the amount or manner in which truck drivers are compensated.”

OOIDA issued a Call to Action mobilizing members as well as their friends and families to call lawmakers in the U.S. House to oppose Section 611.

Spencer said time is short to let lawmakers know that truck drivers are opposed to not being compensated for work performed – all work performed.

Sign up for eNews here and get all of Land Line’s headlines, features and special reports delivered to your inbox on a daily basis, absolutely free. All it takes is an email address.




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Old 02-14-2016, 03:38 AM
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This DESERVES to be posted three times! Thank you, GMAN, for your timely response. I clicked over to the link you posted, and found the call to action and the letter of opposition OOIDA used to defeat THIS VERY SAME TRICK when they tried it in '15.
PLEASE, DRIVERS===THIS IS CRUCIAL. If this is allowed to pass, we can kiss peripheral duty pay goodbye. I don't care how "good" a company is, if they don't HAVE to pay, MOST won't!
Has anyone else clicked and read the links? What are your thoughts? Do we just wait and watch them dig in and take away even more of our income??
The pay you save WILL be your own!!!
Thoughts? Plans???
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I am glad that I found it.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:29 AM
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Honestly, how many drivers are successful with getting detention pay?

I can see this becoming a nightmare for DOT with finding so many trucks OOS. Even the company's will have issues with DOT and drivers simply not doing their job of inspecting the units because they aren't getting paid for it. The companies would be better off in the long run by continuing with the status quo and not going along with this. Eventually you will run out of qualified drivers on the DOT points system!

Got to drop this part of the language against the trucking industry or clarify it to exclude the trucking industry.
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Have any of you heard of a bill before Congress that proposes ending all peripheral payments like layover, detention, and unloading pay??? My connection is so slow that I can barely sign on here, or I'd do THIS research myself!!!
I wouldn't put it past the lobbyists, but why take away the chance to financially redeem SOME of the time drivers have to wait due to no negligence of their own???
I think it was House Bill 4441, but can't remember the section. If you find something, ANYTHING, about this and how it stands on being approved, PLEASE POST HERE.
It may just happen that I'll be returning to the road, soon, and I'm APPALLED that such a thing has even been presented before Congress!
Thanks in hope and advance,
Jewels
HR4441 Sec 611 doesn't prevent a company from having a pay package that pays layover, detention, fueling, meal breaks, etc.. But, it does preempted States from passing laws defining driver pay. Depending on your prospective, this could a good or bad thing.

FAA reform bill includes truck driver mileage pay protections | AIRR | Driver Management Resource Center content from Fleet Owner
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Accessorial pay has been beneficial in my experiences. When I recently ran for Gordon, I would regularly receive the detention pay as well as layover pay when I had sat for a good length of time. I am sure that even if this were passed, the regulation and enforcement would be so burdensome on the regulator side that there would be very few "violations" found.
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