[Midnight Flyer]

Originally Posted by GMAN

It may come down to which law do you want to break. The people who make up these laws are totally clueless. I find it interesting that they seem to want to leave the 4 wheelers alone, but really come down hard on truckers. I would like to see them prove that any of these laws are really necessary before they can pass them. They should be required to have a study which proves that banning these or any other type of behavior will make the roads safer. I would also like to see them make laws which are valid for ALL drivers, not just truckers. We don't need half the laws which are targeted at this industry.

Aw Gman you know the government would come up with some phony surveys and studies that they say would prove that truckers using cell phone and CB radios are a deadly menace to the health and well being of the American public. And then the liberal press would get on board and the next thing you know it would happen. Dang I'll be glad when 2012 gets here!

[GMAN]

Originally Posted by Midnight Flyer

Aw Gman you know the government would come up with some phony surveys and studies that they say would prove that truckers using cell phone and CB radios are a deadly menace to the health and well being of the American public. And then the liberal press would get on board and the next thing you know it would happen. Dang I'll be glad when 2012 gets here!

Maybe they can use Acorn. You know that you can believe their survey's. :roll:

[mitchno1]

we have cell phone use in all vehicles banned in New Zealand but can still use cb and rt radios crazy wats the difference. we tint door windows and use cell phones as normal cant see in truck winscreen unless you in another truck,$150 fine and 25 demerit points,100 demerits for any driving offences over 2years loss licence 3mths

[ilikeike]

Originally Posted by Midnight Flyer

What it is Gman is the government isn't gonna be happy until they control all aspects of our lives; it's called socialism (or communism, take your pick). I think it was Soviet premier Nikita Krueschev who once said socialism (or communism, take your pick) would someday take over America without firing a shot. Looks like it's beginning to happen.

Interstate commerce is an aspect of our lives that IS subject to government regulation and oversight. This has nothing to do with your personal freedoms. That said, I am 100% in support of an outright ban on any form of cell phone use by any driver of a moving vehicle, especially the heavy, commercial type. If you need a phone to keep your business rolling, pull over and conduct your business . . then drive.

I know, I know . . some people are easily distracted . . but not me! And not her . .

YouTube - Woman Falls Into Fountain at Mall While Texting and Walking

[ilikeike]

Originally Posted by golfhobo

I'm the safest driver there ever was! I'm the safest driver there ever was! Just read my other posts and you'll agree! I'm the safest driver there ever WAS!

My co-driver DOES use a headset most of the time now for talking (several hours on some days.) But, he is STILL texting while driving, putting ME at a 23 TIMES more likely ratio to be in a fatal accident.

I see. The fiery wreck wipes out a family of 5 but the truck's drivers managed to escape the flames. "I was in the back letting the world know what a fantastic driver I am. It never occurred to me that I could have prevented this accident. I wasn't the one texting! I know it isn't safe! Oh . . boo hoo . . what was I to do? It was ONLY 23 times more likely to happen!"

[Mystikal]

Evan Lockridge... or maybe it was Dave Nemo... had someone from FMCSA on the other day and a caller asked about that proposal... the guy confirmed that the cell phone ban was ONLY for hands use and not hands free. You could use a headset/bluetooth and still be in compliance as long as you were able to voice dial... meaning you couldn't touch the phone in any manner to use it.

Personally I can kinda support that... but at the same time I think the restriction should extend to 4wheelers as I think their more dangerous than we are. The feds say they can't regulate the 4wheelers to do this.. but didn't the feds manage to get all the states to jump on the 21+ drinking age bandwagon just by withholding their federal highway funds until they complied? So why wouldn't that work in this similar case?

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by GMAN

I believe the proposed law involves no cell phone use, including headsets. I will try to get into the site later and see if it is working. Having higher fines for truckers is discriminatory. It should not be any higher for truckers than 4 wheelers.

HAND HELD HAND HELD HAND HELD!! it does NOT ban headsets

[Fredog]

Originally Posted by Mystikal

Evan Lockridge... or maybe it was Dave Nemo... had someone from FMCSA on the other day and a caller asked about that proposal... the guy confirmed that the cell phone ban was ONLY for hands use and not hands free. You could use a headset/bluetooth and still be in compliance as long as you were able to voice dial... meaning you couldn't touch the phone in any manner to use it.

Personally I can kinda support that... but at the same time I think the restriction should extend to 4wheelers as I think their more dangerous than we are. The feds say they can't regulate the 4wheelers to do this.. but didn't the feds manage to get all the states to jump on the 21+ drinking age bandwagon just by withholding their federal highway funds until they complied? So why wouldn't that work in this similar case?

and they managed to require seat belts in 4 wheelers

[golfhobo]

What IS it about this board? One azzhole leaves and another shows up to take his place. :roll:

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Of course theres always those that cry 'big gooberment gunna gitcha'....IDK why people do not understand this is a DEMOCRACY, when a law is proposed it is because someone lobbied for it and if opposition isnt greater it may pass.

Of course tougher laws for pro drivers is rediculous, they should be evenhanded but of course the 4wheeler crowd is bigger than we are and have more sway on lawmakers than us. Its not like they wanna punish us for being us...texting laws are good, but already obsolete since it doesnt include the idiots on their iphones looking at profiles on facebook and very hard to enforce.

From what i hear you are more likely to be distracted if you are talking on the phone even if you are using a headset- BUt you do have the use of both hands and i think that makes a BIG difference, so banning cell use while driving would be horrible unless headsets use is allowed. I know many drivers that are on the phone all night talking with other drivers and have 20 years accident free service. I think it is safer to talk on the phone all night (with a headset) than falling asleep atthe wheel out of sheer boredum, and this has to be pointed out to lawmakers that do not understand the predicaments of driving for 10hrs. Now go do it and quit bitching about 'big gooberment'.