A pre employment failure is not going on your DAC. If you read the DAC, it is for previous employers only. The regulations require you to do an SAP if you were an employee and failed. You could easily go to Canada and smoke legally and then come back and fail a pre employment. This doesn't mean you did anything wrong. The nutjobs on here that want to make you feel like a junky are just that -- nutjobs. Most of them smoke cigarettes, and cigarettes can interfere with the safe operation of a commercial vehicle just as much, if not more, than weed can. You can get a stroke or heart attack from smoking cigarettes. Maybe they should test for cigarettes too. Smoking weed can reduce the size of tumors and make you healthier. It can help improve your eyesight too. It can save children from dying of cancer. It can do many things that tobacco can't. You can get an undiagnosed cancer from cigarettes and then fall out dead and wreck. Maybe they should test for cigs! The kind of people that want you to live life according to their rules don't really have very many people in their life that can tolerate them. Who cares what they think anyway? They are just crusty old farts with an attitude and they will die just as miserably as they lived. You can be weed free for months and still fail a test. That doesn't mean you are less than a crusty old whiner that chain smokes and judges people based upon his small little opinions that aren't that important anyway. If you did get into a problem with DOT over a pre employment I'm sure it would be any easy case to win in court. They can make all the little arbitrary rules they want, but they have bigger fish to fry. You didn't kill anyone. Furthermore, a company is not going to want to be putting all their pre employment fails into a database anymore than you would want them there. They know info can and will eventually be used against them and they volunteer as little as possible for good reasons. They don't want to be perceived as a company that users flock to. You can forget about all the retards posting that pre employments go on DACs. They are just sad little people with no life and no happiness. They have no respect for the quality of information online. They just want to be the sad little people they are and make the world worse than it is. They want you to feel like a meth head or something when they are most likely the more miserable person when honestly and thoroughly compared. Driving while ****ed up is one thing and shouldn't be done. Doing what you want on your own time is an entirely different thing and should be encouraged in a free country. The miserable people on here that want to pass judgment are just ass clowns and shouldn't be taken very seriously. Whose life is it anyway? Do they pay your bills? Let them live in misery and don't take them serious. All that being said, there are 8 states that I know of that require the MRO to report all failures to them, and you will lose your CDL if you live in one of those states. Does the MRO know about this or not? Who knows for sure? I'm sure there could be an instance of an MRO sending this information to a state that doesn't require it too. Truth be known: There is a risk when you fail any DOT test. It isn't right by any means. Failing a test for weed doesn't make you a criminal, but it can hurt you just as badly. The test is flawed in my opinion. A coke head can be clean in 3 days and someone smoking some weed can take months to be clean. The coke head is probably more likely to steal something to support a habit. It's a ****ed up situation for sure. The hard truth is we live in a dynamic world with so many variables going on that nobody can really give a straight answer when there are none. If an MRO just decides to report all fails to all states then who can stop them? If a company gets upset because you told them to eat **** and then they said oh yeah well how about this horse **** on your DAC now then what could be done. People always want to assign a blame for everything by looking at the past with a microscope. It is easy to tell if someone is ****ed up at the present time: saliva swabs for drugs, blood tests for alcohol -- easy peasy. That isn't the total goal though. If you aren't ****ed up they want to go to the past with a microscope and talk **** to an elderly judge and convince him that you are **** so they can get some money. If they really wanted to know who the ****tier person was the lawyers should look in the mirror. There really is no right or wrong when it is all said and done. There is just what I can make you believe and how much can I get paid. Fair and just has never been the goal.
Last edited by coolbreeze_; 06-04-2016 at 01:28 AM.
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