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wheelman666 02-02-2012 04:19 PM

Looking for Power only units to pull Dedicated, year round work
 
I have constant, dedicated, year round work for Power only units from Chicago to the East Coast. This is pulling 53ft dry vans. this is round trip work. rates are @$2.25mile average out bound from Chicago.
You have to pull their triaiers. Backhauls are provided. Round trip average for January was $1.70 mile. Averae rates are expected to go up.

If you intrested or know of someone who might, please email me and i will send you the full details. I would rather not post all of the info here.

Carreirs, Dispatchers and Truck agents only. No Freight Brokers please

solo379 02-02-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman666 (Post 508236)
this is round trip work. rates are @$2.25mile average out bound from Chicago and $2.90 form PA.

Is that a round trip rate? And if not, what's inbound rate? Does it including a current FSC? And if it is what is it?

firebird_1252 02-03-2012 01:47 AM

steady work? no touch? if have own trailer will you pay more? (i know it says power only but sometimes..)

wheelman666 02-03-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by solo379 (Post 508244)
Is that a round trip rate? And if not, what's inbound rate? Does it including a current FSC? And if it is what is it?

if you will email me with you email address i would be happy to send all of the info on the loads
I rather not psot all of the info here.
[email protected]

wheelman666 02-03-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by firebird_1252 (Post 508247)
steady work? no touch? if have own trailer will you pay more? (i know it says power only but sometimes..)

strictly power only, they are specialized vans.
if you will email me with you email address i would be happy to send all of the info on the loads
I rather not post all of the info here.
[email protected]

Bigmon 02-03-2012 02:53 PM

You have to have your own authority?

wheelman666 02-03-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigmon (Post 508266)
You have to have your own authority?

No, we are a dispatching service, that works for the carrier. so you would have to sign on with us.

If you send me your email address I can forward more info

Maniac 02-03-2012 08:46 PM

Crane vans?

wheelman666 02-03-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 508271)
Crane vans?

yes

If you want more info please email me with your return addy and i will be happy to send yo all the info

Musicman 02-05-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman666 (Post 508267)
No, we are a dispatching service, that works for the carrier. so you would have to sign on with us.

Yes, a dispatching service, JM-POWERED LOGISTICS, LLC, (incorporated last month, I might add) that wants 8% - 12% of your gross to look at a load board and find you a load (per their advertisement in a neighboring post on CAD http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/o...tml#post508279 ).

They are also linked (same woman is a corporate officer for both) to a carrier, Beneath His Wings, LLC (USDOT 2054195 / MC 719238) that according to their website is a “division” of the broker, BHW Logistics (MC#735274). I’m confused by all of this because the broker filed for federal authority last year, the carrier filed for authority 9/30/2010 with 18 trucks and there is no credit data with either RTS or Ansonia. I only have one truck and I have two credit items that show up on my Ansonia report (both fuel cards). The only way you can tell that any business has been conducted at all is the carrier’s Driver OOS rate of 50%. According to their website, BHW Logistics is “Positioning ourselves as one of the leading freight transportation providers in the Southeast.” Anybody remember that “turbotransport” guy? Same shameless self-over-promtion.


Now these folks might be completely legit, but having seen too many posers in this industry over the years, I’d exercise a whole lot of caution about any company before I go and hitch my wagon to them.

Bigmon 02-05-2012 03:27 PM

There is advertising on Craigslist in lots of states. They are crane vans. The Worthington seems to be the backer of this.

Heavy Duty 02-05-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman666 (Post 508267)
No, we are a dispatching service, that works for the carrier. so you would have to sign on with us.

If you send me your email address I can forward more info

Double dip? once for you and once for the carrier?

wheelman666 02-06-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman (Post 508337)
Yes, a dispatching service, JM-POWERED LOGISTICS, LLC, (incorporated last month, I might add) that wants 8% - 12% of your gross to look at a load board and find you a load (per their advertisement in a neighboring post on CAD http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/o...tml#post508279 ).

They are also linked (same woman is a corporate officer for both) to a carrier, Beneath His Wings, LLC (USDOT 2054195 / MC 719238) that according to their website is a “division” of the broker, BHW Logistics (MC#735274). I’m confused by all of this because the broker filed for federal authority last year, the carrier filed for authority 9/30/2010 with 18 trucks and there is no credit data with either RTS or Ansonia. I only have one truck and I have two credit items that show up on my Ansonia report (both fuel cards). The only way you can tell that any business has been conducted at all is the carrier’s Driver OOS rate of 50%. According to their website, BHW Logistics is “Positioning ourselves as one of the leading freight transportation providers in the Southeast.” Anybody remember that “turbotransport” guy? Same shameless self-over-promtion.


Now these folks might be completely legit, but having seen too many posers in this industry over the years, I’d exercise a whole lot of caution about any company before I go and hitch my wagon to them.

Well you are some what correct, and some what way off.
Yes we incorporated in January as part of the restructing we just did, prior to that it was a simple DBA. Because of the growth it was incorporated. A common pratice.
The other post is also mine.
as far as the 8-10%, yes that is our fee, unless you have more than 5 trucks, then its 2% less.

HOWEVER - you are not paying for me to look at load boards. Unlike a lot of the other dispatching services out there Most of our carriers are getting loads straight from the shipper. in fact 80-90% of our loads are from a shipper, not from a broker, thats becasue we have contacts.

and think about it, as an Owner Op, how much time do you spend looking at the boards yourself, how many phone calls do you make to get a load, and what about faxing, that is costing you too. Or if you a small fleet and have someone in the office, what are you paying them every week, $400-$500 a week? PLUS Workers Comp, Disability, Medical, Sick/Vacation time, Electricity to run thie office, computers, paper, pens, Etc, so what does that add up to in a week?
We can even do a plan as low as 5% for certain circumstances. So when you add it all up, is it really that much to pay? to alreadyhave your next laod booked and setup for you before you even drop your current load?

There is an assocation to the other company and we will be able to offer lease on for those with out authority, but we can still run things through JMP. Is that confusing? It alows us to offer 1 more thing for you, the driver, the owner operator to help you make money. that is what it is all about, right?

Sicne JMP does not bill the shippers or handle any money, You bill the shipper directly, Credit is not needed. We only bill the carrier for the work we do. Its the shippers, or in some cases the broker, that the load is gotten from that needs the credit. So why would we show up on a report?

Before you condem us, perhaps you should do a little more homework on us. Unlike the other 100's of Dispatch Sevices out there, we do our best to keep our carriers off the boards and keep moving. We have limits and minimum rates that we will deal with. We only take on carriers with good rateing, so not everyone can hire us. we have lots of contacts out there because of our backgrounds and years in the industry. Myself I have over 25 years in trucking, from a driver to an owner and everyting in between.
And our agreement is "at will" so you can cancle whenever yo want, use us when ever you want. take 1 load a month or 5 loads a week, it totally up to you. And there is no set up fee.

Now if you would like to get more info and chat, I would be happy to. You can send me you email addy or if you prefer to stay public then post here.
I have nothing to hide and i will be happy to answer any questions.

wheelman666 02-06-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy Duty (Post 508367)
Double dip? once for you and once for the carrier?

I think i answered this in my other post - #13. if not feel free to ask

wheelman666 02-06-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigmon (Post 508338)
There is advertising on Craigslist in lots of states. They are crane vans. The Worthington seems to be the backer of this.

Your are correct. there are several postings and The Worthing Co is the backer. we are dealing directly with them as our contact

wheelman666 02-06-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigmon (Post 508266)
You have to have your own authority?

In a couple of weeks we will be able to offer you a lease on option through our sister company.
I don't have a date yet since it was just announced Friday, but should be @ 2weeks.

solo379 02-06-2012 04:53 PM

That's sounds reasonable, and at least worth to check it out. Could you post an example of a typical work week, from either IL, or PA?

wheelman666 02-06-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by solo379 (Post 508398)
That's sounds reasonable, and at least worth to check it out. Could you post an example of a typical work week, from either IL, or PA?

Well it changes based on the which customer wants what delivered where.
But i will try to give you an idea.

Monday - come into the yard from where ever you delivered. Load up and go - to Albany NY, Deliver Wednesday first thing. Reload in Newburgh NY headed to Youngstown OH, Del on Thursday and reload to Chicago. Del Fri and reload for Richmond VA to del Monday.

Another week might be like - Monday Chicago to Pittsburg to Del Tue and reload back to Chicago for Wednesday. Reload for Raleigh NC to Del Fri - Reload to get back to Chicago for Mon.

I can tell you this. The averages so far are 2000-2500 miles a week. Average pay $3500 week to the truck. Some guys are making as high as $4500, not typical but doable if you move.
Its not for eveyone. Some love it and some hate it. the only up front cost to you is the install of the extra pigtail to power the trailer.
We are also working with some shippers to setup backhauls that would be better then what you could find on any board.

does that help?

Musicman 02-07-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wheelman666 (Post 508390)
Well you are some what correct, and some what way off.
Yes we incorporated in January as part of the restructing we just did, prior to that it was a simple DBA. Because of the growth it was incorporated. A common pratice.
The other post is also mine.
as far as the 8-10%, yes that is our fee, unless you have more than 5 trucks, then its 2% less.

The mysterious lack of credit data I mentioned is for your carrier (BENEATH HIS WINGS LLC, MC-719238) and broker (BHW LOGISTICS INC, MC-735274). BENEATH HIS WINGS LLC filed its MCS-150 with a date of 06/13/2011 showing 18 trucks. It is hard to imagine how in a six month period a carrier with 8 owned and 10 term leased trucks wouldn’t generate a credit report with either Ansonia or RTS. Even fuel cards report credit info, which is how my company has a file with Ansonia with two accounts showing… both Fleet One and TCH, as do all other fuel cards I’m aware of, report monthly to the credit bureaus. It’s hard to imagine running 18 trucks without having fuel cards, but it would be possible. There are a lot of wannabe’s and pretenders in our industry. When I see something that is a red flag, I feel compelled to comment. When I see a company billing itself as an industry leader (per the BHW website) after being in business for less than a year, it troubles me. I’m big on honesty and small on deception. I know creative writing is to be expected, but really, “one of the leading freight transportation providers in the Southeast”? Really? The name of the company “Beneath His Wings” connotes Christian values, and then the opening sentence of BHW’s website is a bold-faced lie. I guess it takes different strokes to float each person’s boat, but I couldn’t sleep at night if I wrote that line. I will admit that the lies notwithstanding, the websites are very well written, and I applaud the skill of the author.

For me all this is academic because it’s not something I’d be interested in. I’m in no need of a dispatcher and I’m making much more than your example of 2k – 2,500 miles a week and $3,500 gross. I supposed for some your example might appeal to them. Eight to twelve percent of my gross sounds extravagantly high for a dispatching service, but I have seen other dispatching services quote similar fees. IMO anybody willing to give up 12% of his gross to a dispatcher needs his head examined. Of course I’m sure you will find plenty of takers. The factoring companies seem to do quite a brisk business and they charge around 36% APR (3% per 30 day period WITH recourse). I guess the best way to sum up my opinion of all this is to end with a paraphrase of the timeless quote by Thomas Tusser… one of P.T. Barnum’s favorites, I might add (just food for thought, since Barnum would’ve loved factoring and dispatch services)… “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

ftracker 02-07-2012 05:04 AM

If I would provide you the trailer ? will you pay more?

wheelman666 02-07-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman (Post 508449)
The mysterious lack of credit data I mentioned is for your carrier (BENEATH HIS WINGS LLC, MC-719238) and broker (BHW LOGISTICS INC, MC-735274). BENEATH HIS WINGS LLC filed its MCS-150 with a date of 06/13/2011 showing 18 trucks. It is hard to imagine how in a six month period a carrier with 8 owned and 10 term leased trucks wouldn’t generate a credit report with either Ansonia or RTS. Even fuel cards report credit info, which is how my company has a file with Ansonia with two accounts showing… both Fleet One and TCH, as do all other fuel cards I’m aware of, report monthly to the credit bureaus. It’s hard to imagine running 18 trucks without having fuel cards, but it would be possible. There are a lot of wannabe’s and pretenders in our industry. When I see something that is a red flag, I feel compelled to comment. When I see a company billing itself as an industry leader (per the BHW website) after being in business for less than a year, it troubles me. I’m big on honesty and small on deception. I know creative writing is to be expected, but really, “one of the leading freight transportation providers in the Southeast”? Really? The name of the company “Beneath His Wings” connotes Christian values, and then the opening sentence of BHW’s website is a bold-faced lie. I guess it takes different strokes to float each person’s boat, but I couldn’t sleep at night if I wrote that line. I will admit that the lies notwithstanding, the websites are very well written, and I applaud the skill of the author.

For me all this is academic because it’s not something I’d be interested in. I’m in no need of a dispatcher and I’m making much more than your example of 2k – 2,500 miles a week and $3,500 gross. I supposed for some your example might appeal to them. Eight to twelve percent of my gross sounds extravagantly high for a dispatching service, but I have seen other dispatching services quote similar fees. IMO anybody willing to give up 12% of his gross to a dispatcher needs his head examined. Of course I’m sure you will find plenty of takers. The factoring companies seem to do quite a brisk business and they charge around 36% APR (3% per 30 day period WITH recourse). I guess the best way to sum up my opinion of all this is to end with a paraphrase of the timeless quote by Thomas Tusser… one of P.T. Barnum’s favorites, I might add (just food for thought, since Barnum would’ve loved factoring and dispatch services)… “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

The example i gave is specifc for the Power Only stuff only. We have other carreirs that are running @ 4000 miles a week and some that do local work and are running @ 2000 miles a week. it depends on what the carrier wants.
You have to remeber, as a Dispatching service, we do what the carrier wants and work within the specs they set up. in your case, i assume your running better then 3500 miels a week and you already have a set shipper you are working with. that is great but few get that lucky. for them we are an OPTION, where we can set them up on good lanes, for good money doing what they want and where they won't be losing $300-$500 a load to a broker or sitting trying to find the next load, or having to call to make appointments. They are able to just worry about driving and getting to the next point.
No this is not for everyone, for some it can mean the difference between losing their truck or keeping it and having money in thier pocket, for others it might mean a way to grow their company without hiring personal in the office and spending more money there. For others it just doesn't work.
and if you have 5 or more trucks the rates are 2% less. So when you figure out what your losing to a broker, or what your paying for 1 office person, it just might work for you or it might not.

wheelman666 02-07-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ftracker (Post 508450)
If I would provide you the trailer ? will you pay more?

For the PO stuff, we can't use your trailer, you have to pull theirs.

However i have other stuff avail that i can work with you on and set you up on a good lane where you want to run. whether you have a van, reefer or a flat,
Let me know what you have and where you would like to run and i can see what i can do.
or better yet email me directly and i can give you more details then i can type out here.

LOAD IT 02-20-2012 08:03 PM

If you do this crane van deal, be very careful of what is "promised" and get everything in a rate confirmation. They will run you to the east coast for $2.25 pm or more then they cant find you a backhaul. So dispatch "promises" to pay you $500 - $700 to go back to Bolingbrook or Woodridge IL to get another load of elevators. They never pay the "promised" amount and you have no rate confirmation to prove it. Do that 2-3 times in a month and you will be hurting financially. These loads are not "no touch". You can make money doing this work, but you need to find your own loads back to Bolingbrook or other cities where they have specialized shippers needing these trailers. I worked for Worthington and their main competition hauling elevators. Get it in writing, dont move the truck based on "promises".

wheelman666 02-20-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LOAD IT (Post 508947)
If you do this crane van deal, be very careful of what is "promised" and get everything in a rate confirmation. They will run you to the east coast for $2.25 pm or more then they cant find you a backhaul. So dispatch "promises" to pay you $500 - $700 to go back to Bolingbrook or Woodridge IL to get another load of elevators. They never pay the "promised" amount and you have no rate confirmation to prove it. Do that 2-3 times in a month and you will be hurting financially. These loads are not "no touch". You can make money doing this work, but you need to find your own loads back to Bolingbrook or other cities where they have specialized shippers needing these trailers. I worked for Worthington and their main competition hauling elevators. Get it in writing, dont move the truck based on "promises".

I'm sorry that you did this and got screwed. This is NOT HOW WE WORK.
I GUARANTEE you will not get screwed, you will not have to Deadhead back, You will not ever move without a confirmation.
Because of who we are and how we work we have a lot more connections available to us for backhauls. We are not limited to just what the company can find. We have many options, so your truck will never have to run back empty, unless youwant to.
We will find you a backhaul every time. We will make sure that for every load you do you WILL have a confirm to bill from.
We work with Worthington, not for them. Therefor we have a LOT more options for you and we will get you loads.
If you want more info on how to do this right, email me, and i will be ahppy to send you info on who we are and how we work.
We not onlyhave this lane available, but several others. we have lanes for Reefers, Vans, Flats and Power Only.
we work for you , and we make sure you make money. We don't get paid unless you make money.

LOAD IT 02-20-2012 08:25 PM

If you are interested in doing this type of work without another finger in the pie, let me know and I will introduce you to Chris and Dave directly. For the record, I didnt get screwed but I saw many that did. I have no bad feelings towards the Worthington Co. Its just business and I just warned you of 1 of the pitfalls. Also crane vans arent easy to backhaul due to some constraints.

wheelman666 02-20-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LOAD IT (Post 508951)
If you are interested in doing this type of work without another finger in the pie, let me know and I will introduce you to Chris and Dave directly. For the record, I didnt get screwed but I saw many that did. I have no bad feelings towards the Worthington Co. Its just business and I just warned you of 1 of the pitfalls. Also crane vans arent easy to backhaul due to some constraints.

We are not brokers. Yes we charge a fee for our services, but also a lot of our loads are direct from shippers, not brokers, so you are getting a better rate.
Look all i am saying is if you were to go with us, you would not have that pitfall to worry about. would not happen.
and we keep an eye out on the laods you get so you are making money ever week.
We only make money if you are. we don't take our fee off the top.
So it is in our best interest for several reasons, to make sure you are making money each and every week and not getting screwed every.

I also disagree with you on not being that easy to backhaul. i have heard of no real issues yet backhauling them.

LOAD IT 02-20-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman666 (Post 508952)
We are not brokers. Yes we charge a fee for our services, but also a lot of our loads are direct from shippers, not brokers, so you are getting a better rate.
Look all i am saying is if you were to go with us, you would not have that pitfall to worry about. would not happen.
and we keep an eye out on the laods you get so you are making money ever week.
We only make money if you are. we don't take our fee off the top.
So it is in our best interest for several reasons, to make sure you are making money each and every week and not getting screwed every.

I also disagree with you on not being that easy to backhaul. i have heard of no real issues yet backhauling them.

Wheelman, I had a fleet of crane trailers and I can tell that you are new to this. You will have issues backhauling them. I have backhauled them all over the US and Canada. Also you better keep up with what Worthton owes you for recruiting or you will get screwed on your commission also. You've been warned.

papastrucking 01-18-2014 05:43 PM

I'm interested in more info on these loads can you email me more. Thanks


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