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crazyeyes 04-04-2011 09:30 PM

Fuel Cards with savings
 
Hi, i wounder what fuel cards you guys using (O/O with own Autority), what discounts are you getting?

My self i got my own MC#, found schneider load i liked, they send me contact to sign up with them, it took 2 days to get approved, so i never took this load, but they offered me "carrier discount program", savings on fuel, repairs, tires. Sounds good, so tryed. They told me i can sign up with comdata or fleet one. I got fleet one. $75 application fee. Got new car in the mail, now had to call shneider so they can put me in theyrs system to get saving.
Now everytime i fuel i'm getting charged $1 for transaction, $4 every month for card maitenance fees, and email every morning with fuel prices at all TA and Petro truck stops accross US. From 2(petro) to 15(at Ta) cents per gallon discount. Everytime i fuel, i'm getting like $20 to $30 discount. Using them for 4 months now, no any hidden fees. I think its pretty good deal.

Any body have better deal, please let me know. Fuel prices at TA always little higher then at Loves or Pilot even they at same exit. Of course 15 cents makes big difference, but just currious maybe there is something better??? Thanks

GMAN 04-04-2011 10:01 PM

Pilot and Flying J now offer a $0.02/gallon fuel discount if you have a PDCA card from Transportation Alliance Bank. Several other carriers who broker freight also offer fuel cards with discounts. Landstar, Bennett, JB Hunt and a few others also offer fuel cards with discounts. The catch is that you cannot load the card yourself. The broker/carrier must load it. For them to load it you must haul their loads. If you haul loads for any of them you can get set up with them to use their fuel card.

I always preferred having my own card, but it is tempting to take advantage of any of those discounts.

crazyeyes 04-05-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 496311)
Pilot and Flying J now offer a $0.02/gallon fuel discount if you have a PDCA card from Transportation Alliance Bank. Several other carriers who broker freight also offer fuel cards with discounts. Landstar, Bennett, JB Hunt and a few others also offer fuel cards with discounts. The catch is that you cannot load the card yourself. The broker/carrier must load it. For them to load it you must haul their loads. If you haul loads for any of them you can get set up with them to use their fuel card.

I always preferred having my own card, but it is tempting to take advantage of any of those discounts.

Card i have it is like my own card, got it from fleet one, they checked my credit, got approved for $2500/ per week spending. At the end of week whatever i spend this week they take directly from my bank account. And next week i got $2500 again. My card my money, just schneiders discounts. Actualy i heared, that schneider gets ~32 cnt of gallon, but gives me only half of it. Oh well, its good deal anyways.

crazyeyes 04-05-2011 12:54 PM

Another thing i forgot to say, i can use my card anywhere Fleet 1 is accepted, get cash price at the pump, but discount(up to 15cnts of cash price) only available at TA or Petro.

GMAN 04-05-2011 04:30 PM

Most of those who offer fuel cards with discounts don't pass all of the discount along to their owner operators or carriers. OOIDA has the Fleet One card and there are no monthly fees, but you also only get about $0.02/gallon discount on fuel, and those are not at all fuel stops.

crazyeyes 04-05-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 496342)
Most of those who offer fuel cards with discounts don't pass all of the discount along to their owner operators or carriers. OOIDA has the Fleet One card and there are no monthly fees, but you also only get about $0.02/gallon discount on fuel, and those are not at all fuel stops.

Got it, thats way i see so many people have read it, but not many responding, i guess, everybody thinks only about themself.

My self i dont mind to share with my succses and help others in this crazy bussines.

Steel Horse Cowboy 04-07-2011 06:07 PM

Schneider just sent me a letter in the mail telling me all about their "lease drivers savings" and they now get .08 discount at all Pilot/J locations!

GMAN 04-07-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyeyes (Post 496343)
Got it, thats way i see so many people have read it, but not many responding, i guess, everybody thinks only about themself.

My self i dont mind to share with my succses and help others in this crazy bussines.

It is good when we can share information. One thing about the OOIDA Fleetone program. I don't believe that their is a setup fee. It has been a while since I have used their card, but I think they have either a reduced or no transaction fee when you make fuel purchases.

allan5oh 04-07-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel Horse Cowboy (Post 496403)
Schneider just sent me a letter in the mail telling me all about their "lease drivers savings" and they now get .08 discount at all Pilot/J locations!

That's what I get now. Used to be 5 cents/G.

skrissel 04-07-2011 08:56 PM

The best fuel discount programs I have found are:

If you sign up for the RTS credit reporting program, you get access to their fuel card. RTS Financial | Freight Factoring Services, Trucking Factoring Companies, Kansas City, Missouri

NASTC - NASTC ? Welcome To The National Association Of Small Trucking Companies - 800.264.8580

If you are going to factor, then Apex Capital has the best discount. Apex Capital – Factoring, Trucking Factoring, Account Receivable Funding

Good Luck!!

terrylamar 06-29-2011 02:22 AM

What about cash? Are there any fuel cards that beat the cash price?

GMAN 06-29-2011 02:43 AM

There are cards that offer different ways of getting a discount. TA has a cash plus program at some locations through Comdata. You usually need to lease to one of the major carriers or have one of the fuel cards that are tied to one of the major brokers. The cash plus is what that location pays for the fuel from their distributor plus the mark up rate. Some can get as much as $0.50/gallon discount. Brokers usually don't give that much of a discount to carriers who broker freight with them and use their fuel card. Most of them keep part of the discount as their profit. Most of the fuel cards that offer a discount is off the cash price. But, you will usually have a transaction fee every time you use their card. For the small carrier I like TCH. If you get one of the PDCA cards from Transportation Alliance Bank, it is treated like a TCH card when you buy fuel but there is no transaction fee. As I think I stated in an earlier post, Flying J and Pilot will give you the cash price plus a discount on fuel purchases if you use the PDCA card. It is a debit card tied to Master Card so you can use it for any purchases. It helps to track road expenses. I think they also offer a regular Mastercard. www.tabbank.com is their website.

The way the fuel cards work is that they want you to pay them weekly. You can either get a credit line with the issuer or put cash into the account and when it gets below a certain level you will need to transfer additional funds into the account.

Most of the fuel card companies are owned by major banks. Most will charge you a set up fee when you first open your account. The main thing that I like about using a fuel card is the reporting. Most of them will allow you to break down fuel purchases by the state which helps do your IFTA quarterly returns.

Most carriers will use one of the following fuel cards: Comdata, EFS, T-Check, TCH or Fleetone.

skrissel 07-02-2011 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 499519)
What about cash? Are there any fuel cards that beat the cash price?

My Discount for the month of June was almost $2k for 4 trucks, that's calculated off of cash price. EVERYONE that is purchsing their own fuel should be involved in a fuel discount program. It is free money!! I had several fill ups this week that were less than $3.50/gal. The cheapest was $3.37/gal. My average fuel price for the month was $3.63

Good Luck!
-scott

Musicman 07-10-2011 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by skrissel (Post 499605)
My Discount for the month of June was almost $2k for 4 trucks, that's calculated off of cash price. EVERYONE that is purchsing their own fuel should be involved in a fuel discount program. It is free money!! I had several fill ups this week that were less than $3.50/gal. The cheapest was $3.37/gal. My average fuel price for the month was $3.63

To reiterate what Scott has said, the NASTC / Fleet One program is pretty hard to beat. So far this year, with just one truck I've purchased 9454.56 gallons at a total cost of $34,165.63. Cash pump price would have totaled $36,232.09, so I’ve saved $2,066.46. Not to mention zero card use fee per transaction (TCH last I used it was $1.80 per purchase) AND the additional savings I’ve reaped by making my fueling decisions with the knowledge of what both today’s price will be and tomorrow’s price will be at each fuel stop in the network (TA, Petro, Ambest and a bunch of independents). I’ve been with NASTC for over 16 months and my only regret is that I didn’t find it sooner.

fuelmanmase 09-14-2011 07:33 PM

Hey check this out....I got a call about a Diesel Advantage Fleet card 3wks ago. The guy told me he will save me ten cents on every gallon I purchase at there locations, I said yeah sure where the heck are your locations Mr. Johnson said, ARCO,PILOT,LOVES,PETRO,T/A,SINCLAIR. And Shell, Chev/Tex, Exxon,Mobile,Conoco,BP. ect. He said no fee's no contracts, Oh and no start up Fee's either.I doubted him but filled out the Application and what do you know no fee's, And I even get 30% off any Maintenance Supply's And I got ten cents off at A shell station the other day in IL. 2 DAYS AGO. HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected] ask for Atten. Mr.Johnson.....he will save you cash. The card only pays cash price and 10 cents off....no transaction fee's or any other.

Orangetxguy 09-14-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fuelmanmase (Post 503067)
Hey check this out....I got a call about a Diesel Advantage Fleet card 3wks ago. The guy told me he will save me ten cents on every gallon I purchase at there locations, I said yeah sure where the heck are your locations Mr. Johnson said, ARCO,PILOT,LOVES,PETRO,T/A,SINCLAIR. And Shell, Chev/Tex, Exxon,Mobile,Conoco,BP. ect. He said no fee's no contracts, Oh and no start up Fee's either.I doubted him but filled out the Application and what do you know no fee's, And I even get 30% off any Maintenance Supply's And I got ten cents off at A shell station the other day in IL. 2 DAYS AGO. HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected] ask for Atten. Mr.Johnson.....he will save you cash. The card only pays cash price and 10 cents off....no transaction fee's or any other.

LOL......can we say........SPAM?

Fuelman Diesel Advantage Fleet Card | Diesel Fuel Cards | FleetCards USA

fuelmanmase 09-15-2011 03:01 PM

Spam??? Savings!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm just a guy trying to save US TRUCKERS some money. I have been reading the threads and WE need something here, Atleast Cash Price!!!! These guys are giving me ten cents off a gallon. With no b.s. minimum or maximum gallons.

fuelmanmase 10-11-2011 08:41 PM

Reply to savings with mc
 
So what i'm reading is your rebate is 20-30 dollars a month. you pay a 1 dollar transaction fee every swipe? Did you break even then or lose money? Think about it geezzzzzzz

Musicman 10-16-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fuelmanmase (Post 503102)
I'm just a guy trying to save US TRUCKERS some money. I have been reading the threads and WE need something here, Atleast Cash Price!!!! These guys are giving me ten cents off a gallon. With no b.s. minimum or maximum gallons.

So far this year with my one truck and my NASTC discount:

Total Card Fees: $0
Gallons: 15,356.466
Total Cost Pump Price: $61,413.99
Total Cost Discounted Price: $58,289.11
Total Discount: $3,124.88
Average Discount per Gallon: $0.20348952682212

No minimum purchase, no maximum purchase, no time limits.

Musicman 10-16-2011 01:17 PM

Oh, and I left out the part about how, by 10am or so, I know what the prices will be the following day and I know what they will be all weekend by Friday morning. There's also a guaranteed maximum price, meaning that for the rare situation where pump prices drop to below your discount price after it is set for the day, you are still guaranteed a one to five cent discount off that price as well. It doesn’t happen often, but depending on what wholesale prices are doing and what that particular retail market is doing, it can happen, especially on the weekend.

crazyeyes 10-29-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fuelmanmase (Post 503991)
So what i'm reading is your rebate is 20-30 dollars a month. you pay a 1 dollar transaction fee every swipe? Did you break even then or lose money? Think about it geezzzzzzz

Maybe because i'm "stupid immigrant" i was not clear: $1 transaction fee every swipe AND 20-30 dollars saving on that swipe. Usualy i swipe 3 times per week, 12 per month on average, so loosing $12 per month + $4 for card fees. Saving ~$20-30 per single fill up equals to about $300 per month in savings. Geezzzz

GMAN 10-29-2011 10:31 PM

Some of the major broker/carriers offer fuel cards with discounts to carriers who do business with them. Landstar, Bennett, Schneider, JB Hunt and Mercer all have fuel cards that you can use to purchase fuel and not have to worry about the set up fee. Landstar offers the same discount as their owner operators receive. Mercer has $0.10/gallon. I don't recall what Bennett offers. It might be a better way to go if you only have one or two trucks.

Musicman 11-02-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 504541)
Some of the major broker/carriers offer fuel cards with discounts to carriers who do business with them. Landstar, Bennett, Schneider, JB Hunt and Mercer all have fuel cards that you can use to purchase fuel and not have to worry about the set up fee. Landstar offers the same discount as their owner operators receive. Mercer has $0.10/gallon. I don't recall what Bennett offers. It might be a better way to go if you only have one or two trucks.

I think RTS has something that is pretty decent as well. I glanced at what they have to offer, but stayed with what I have because I'm happy there.

GMAN 11-02-2011 11:54 AM

The downside to using a fuel card supplied by any of the major broker/carriers is that it will have their name on the receipt and you won't have the controls that you have with your own card. Still, you can enjoy fuel savings that you may not be able to get on your own.

Bigmon 11-02-2011 03:22 PM

what controls are you talking about? Do they only put money on the card for a load with them?

GMAN 11-02-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigmon (Post 504644)
what controls are you talking about? Do they only put money on the card for a load with them?



If you use a fuel card from someone such as Bennett or Landstar, etc., they will put your settlement on the fuel card rather than mailing a check or doing a direct deposit to your bank account. You can use the card for fuel or anything else you wish. If you have drivers and use the card, they can also use the card to buy what they want as along as the merchant accepts the card. Those who do advances may also make a deposit on a comcard for those advances. Only the owner or the fuel card can load it. In other words, the only way to put money on the card is to haul a load for the broker or carrier. You cannot load the card yourself.

With your own fuel card, you can load it as you wish. You control how many gallons or dollars that a driver may spend in a day or week, etc., You decide whether the driver may use the card to purchase oil, antifreeze or other products on their assigned card. You can put safeguards in place to help reduce fraud by anyone other than the driver. You can go online and see where the driver made purchases and know where he is located or was at the time of the purchase. You can also allow him to get cash advances or not on the card. Having your own card will also allow you to print out fuel reports by state, truck or driver. Smaller carriers may not be able to receive much in the way of discounts with their own card.

Most card issuers charge a fee each time you use the card. A card that is issued by one of the broker/carriers is like a debit card. You cannot get money unless the broker/carrier has deposited money on the card. If you have your own card, it may be a debit or credit card. If you have good credit you may qualify for a credit card. You can charge up to the credit limit assigned, but they will debit your checking account each week for purchases. Only having a week is not much time and that would be similiar to a debit card, but could help if cash is tight as long as you know that your money will be in the bank when they do the debit.

Musicman 11-08-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyeyes (Post 504529)
Maybe because i'm "stupid immigrant" i was not clear.....

You write better than some of the native English speakers on here, and assuming that English is not your first or only language, you are doing better than me. Me, I used to do a little Puerto Rican, but there’s no need to bring my ex-wife into this http://www.animated-gifs.eu/anisigns...ure/unsure.gif

Here's the link to RTS. Fuel Discount Program | RTS Financial. If I remember correctly, you were looking for a credit reporting service anyway in another post. RTS is one of the two credit reporting agencies I use, and if you factor your loads, they do that too, though I wouldn't know anything about the factoring side of things.

skrissel 11-09-2011 03:03 AM

RTS has some great discounts. If anyone wants to see the current pricing, shoot me an e-mail and I will send it to you.

-scott

phoneman 11-26-2011 04:47 PM

Here is a good article on using company fuel cards.
http://www.landlinemag.com/Archives/...tures/I376.htm


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