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Aufgeblassen 08-04-2010 12:44 PM

Axle Ratio
 
Does a 3.42 axle ratio give you higher or lower RPMs than a 3.58?

Thanks!

terrylamar 08-04-2010 03:43 PM

The lower the number, the higher the rpm.

Aufgeblassen 08-04-2010 04:12 PM

Doh! I was afraid of that. So while my old truck which ran at around 1350 RPM @ 60 MPH, my new truck will run @ around 1440 RPM, because both transmissions are ten speeds?

I'm looking to trade my '01 Volvo 660 for an '06 Volvo 780.

Copperhead 08-04-2010 04:19 PM

A 3.42 will have you turning LOWER rpms at the same speed compared to a 3.58. The taller (lower number) the rear end gear ratio, the lower the rpms for the same speed. I have 3.42 in my truck and am turning 1300 at 60 mph on low pro 22.5 rubber.

Shnerdly 08-04-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 484577)
The lower the number, the higher the rpm.

Actually, it's the opposite. The larger the number, the higher the RPMs of the engine will be.

Copperhead has it right. The way it is usually talked about makes it kind of an odd concept.

When people say they are lowering their gear ration, the are actually going to a gear set that has a higher number but the reference to a lower gear ratio means a lower top speed.

If you have 3.42 gear ratio, your drive shaft will turn 3.42 revolutions to one revolution of the wheel. If you have a 3.58 gear ratio your drive shaft will turn 3.58 revolutions for one revolution of the wheel giving you a lower top speed and slightly higher RPM if all other factors are the same.

The other factors are tire size being 22.5 or 24.5 and low profile or not. Also the transmission matters. Some are direct drive meaning the output to the drive shaft is equal to engine RPM's in high gear. Some are overdrive meaning the drive shaft is going slightly faster then engine RPM's in high gear. There are even some underdrive transmissions out there though they are not very common.

Aufgeblassen 08-05-2010 12:21 AM

Thanks, everyone! I feel better now knowing my RPMs will be slightly lower at my usual 60 MPH travels. I should save a little bit on fuel and wear & tear, considering I travel on mostly all flat ground. :roll3:

Mackman 08-05-2010 02:04 AM

Get real trucks with 3.90s or 4.10s :thumbsup:

I know you guys are talking OTR but if it makes you feel any better I got 3.90s with a 13speed. Turn around 1550-1600 rpm at 60

firebird_1252 08-05-2010 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 484604)
Get real trucks with 3.90s or 4.10s :thumbsup:

I know you guys are talking OTR but if it makes you feel any better I got 3.90s with a 13speed. Turn around 1550-1600 rpm at 60

thats not really bad.. my company truck turns 65-66ish at 1450 with 3.55's and a 10 speed.. well 3.55's or 3.58's

Windwalker 08-05-2010 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen (Post 484597)
Thanks, everyone! I feel better now knowing my RPMs will be slightly lower at my usual 60 MPH travels. I should save a little bit on fuel and wear & tear, considering I travel on mostly all flat ground. :roll3:

What you will find with 3:42 rears, is that at 55 mph, 9th gear is too low, and 10th gear is too high. You won't save any fuel in 9th gear, but in 10th gear, at 55 mph, you're about lugging the engine. I did it too. I had 3:42s and when I got out of OH, I loved it. Economy wasn't bed either. But, back then, the spiking fuel prices were a kick in the *****.

Jackrabbit379 08-05-2010 06:19 PM

A friend of mine has a 359 with 3.55 rears. 475 CAT, with a 15 behind it. It's cool driving about 72 and the motor is running about 1600.
Feels like you are going down a country road in a Cadillac. :p

Aufgeblassen 08-05-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 484621)
A friend of mine has a 359 with 3.55 rears. 475 CAT, with a 15 behind it. It's cool driving about 72 and the motor is running about 1600.
Feels like you are going down a country road in a Cadillac. :p

My new truck should run about 1550 RPM @ 72 MPH (not that I EVER run at that fuel wasting speed!!!). :smokin:

Aufgeblassen 08-12-2010 12:09 AM

Update:

I got my new (actually a 2006) Volvo 780, and the 3.42 axle ratio vs. the 3.58 of my old truck lowers my RPMs from 1340 or so to an even 1300 RPM @ 60 MPH. :smokin:

Aufgeblassen 08-12-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 484604)
Get real trucks with 3.90s or 4.10s :thumbsup:

I know you guys are talking OTR

Yeah, real dumb trucks!

No, I run regional/Southeast only, and am home EVERY weekend. Pretty much just Florida & Georgia.

terrylamar 08-13-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shnerdly (Post 484584)
Actually, it's the opposite. The larger the number, the higher the RPMs of the engine will be.

Copperhead has it right. The way it is usually talked about makes it kind of an odd concept.

When people say they are lowering their gear ration, the are actually going to a gear set that has a higher number but the reference to a lower gear ratio means a lower top speed.

If you have 3.42 gear ratio, your drive shaft will turn 3.42 revolutions to one revolution of the wheel. If you have a 3.58 gear ratio your drive shaft will turn 3.58 revolutions for one revolution of the wheel giving you a lower top speed and slightly higher RPM if all other factors are the same.

The other factors are tire size being 22.5 or 24.5 and low profile or not. Also the transmission matters. Some are direct drive meaning the output to the drive shaft is equal to engine RPM's in high gear. Some are overdrive meaning the drive shaft is going slightly faster then engine RPM's in high gear. There are even some underdrive transmissions out there though they are not very common.

Yes, Yes, I understand this concept, my brain was in the wrong gear!

Steel Horse Cowboy 08-16-2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 484604)
Get real trucks with 3.90s or 4.10s :thumbsup:

I know you guys are talking OTR but if it makes you feel any better I got 3.90s with a 13speed. Turn around 1550-1600 rpm at 60

My 99 FLD has 3.90's, a direct 10 speed, and 22.5LP's and at 1550 im going 65mph ???

Guess your final drive must be higher than mine.

Anyways, I keep it about 1400 and go 60mph in the right lane and have avg'd 8.2mpg for the last 2 years (pulling light dry bulk)

Steel Horse Cowboy 08-16-2010 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen (Post 484901)
Yeah, real dumb trucks!

No, I run regional/Southeast only, and am home EVERY weekend. Pretty much just Florida & Georgia.

Not true....... I just sold one of my 2005 IH that had 3.23 rears with a 435 C-15 and at 75mph it was at 1450rpm. Got 6.3mpg....... I'm doing the same run in my FLD now and getting over 8mpg with the 3.90's

I work 4 days a week, Chicago to Corpus Christi and back.

terrylamar 08-16-2010 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steel Horse Cowboy (Post 485100)
My 99 FLD has 3.90's, a direct 10 speed, and 22.5LP's and at 1550 im going 65mph ???

Guess your final drive must be higher than mine.

Anyways, I keep it about 1400 and go 60mph in the right lane and have avg'd 8.2mpg for the last 2 years (pulling light dry bulk)

You don't have a direct drive with those numbers.

Steel Horse Cowboy 08-16-2010 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 485104)
You don't have a direct drive with those numbers.

I'm quite sure it is..... I'll look up the exact trans # tomorrow.


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