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terrylamar 04-05-2009 08:42 AM

Someone told me that if you don't have your TWIC and you need an excort, you have to pay for the escort. I don't think he knew what he was talking about.

Another driver told me, that he had a TWIC and sometimes he would be by the port and our drivers that didn't have a TWIC would have to let him take into the port and deliver. He said he made good money whenever that happened.

They way I look at it, is that it helps me get more loads, or doesn't prevent me from taking one if it is offered. This is the same reason I got my Passport.

Another is that is that "second" picture ID some places are always asking you for.:)

Blacksheep 04-05-2009 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 428341)
I lost a couple of loads this week due to not having a TWIC. That doesn't mean that I am ready to go out and pay the TWIC tax. I do some military freight as well. Military loads haven't been paying that well lately so if I miss a couple of military loads then I haven't lost much. I know one carrier who now requires new hires to have a TWIC, but they go into the ports frequently. I can understand why some would spend the money since it may not be an option with some carriers. I have not yet made up my mind whether I will spend the money or not. As of now, I am leaning toward not getting one. I am making some changes in my business which will make it easier to not need to go into the ports. I also don't think that I will pay the fee for the hazmat. That will save me a couple of hundred dollars. One other thing to keep in mind is that those who are performing these checks are private companies. You don't know where that information will be stored or how well it will be secured. My question is when is enough enough? Let's take a look at the revenue generated by these two programs. If a million drivers paid for the hazmat tax then that will generate $94 million, providing everyone pays the same $94 fee. Add the TWIC tax for the same number of drivers and that adds another $132.5 million at $132.50 per driver. If Lockheed Martin is doing both programs then they are generating a potential revenue stream of more than $200 million. That is more than $200,000,000. That is a lot of revenue. I am not sure that it does anything other than make money for the contractor and government. It adds more that $200 for every CDL holder who chooses to pay the tax.

Yup got mine back in Aug 08, but I pull a chemical tanker so I am forced to pretty much.

But make no mistake that this is just another tax, or do you prefure " revenue enhancement" by our crooked politicians in Washington.

GMAN 04-06-2009 12:26 AM

It is amazing how many new names our elected representatives can come up with for taxes other than calling them a tax.

rank 04-06-2009 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 445296)
Someone told me that if you don't have your TWIC and you need an excort, you have to pay for the escort. I don't think he knew what he was talking about.

He's kinda right. If a TWIC is required and you don't have one, one way or another, SOMEONE is paying the escort.


Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 445296)
Another driver told me, that he had a TWIC and sometimes he would be by the port and our drivers that didn't have a TWIC would have to let him take into the port and deliver. He said he made good money whenever that happened.

Most of the escorts in Baltimore are charging $150 for the first 2 hours + $75 - $90/hr after that. Seems like it might be cheaper to pay the escort than to pay a driver to get under the load.

Blacksheep 04-07-2009 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 445406)
It is amazing how many new names our elected representatives can come up with for taxes other than calling them a tax.


tea party, enough is enough, throw these bums out..........

GMAN 04-07-2009 01:21 PM

Somebody grab the rope. :argue:

Blacksheep 04-08-2009 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 445690)
Somebody grab the rope. :argue:

Ropes to good for them clowns in Washington.........

slacker 04-16-2009 07:49 AM

I got my TWIC to get into the port at Galveston.

I wish I had a copy of the application to post because it has some really interesting stuff in it, ie. all the different classifications of aliens that can get a TWIC. Basically they are looking for people that have plotted insurection against our government or other treasonist activities. Ironically, all the 911 terrorists and Timothy McVey, sp?, would've not fallen into that category. I don't think you can get a TWIC card if you owe back child support.

I wish they would use something similar to TWIC as a national ID card and deport everyone that didn't have one. It would ge worth the $130 fee.


slacker

Heavy Duty 04-16-2009 01:06 PM

The best part is when you pick it up one of the rules is "If you become involved in terrorist activity you have to turn your TWIC card in"

GMAN 04-16-2009 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by slacker (Post 446803)
I got my TWIC to get into the port at Galveston.

I wish I had a copy of the application to post because it has some really interesting stuff in it, ie. all the different classifications of aliens that can get a TWIC. Basically they are looking for people that have plotted insurection against our government or other treasonist activities. Ironically, all the 911 terrorists and Timothy McVey, sp?, would've not fallen into that category. I don't think you can get a TWIC card if you owe back child support.

I wish they would use something similar to TWIC as a national ID card and deport everyone that didn't have one. It would ge worth the $130 fee.


slacker


Apparently the Department of Homeland Security has decided that all veterans and tax protesters are a security risk and may become involved in terrorist activities. I suppose that if you are a vet or recently protested in the tea party that you can't qualify for a TWIC or if you already have one that you must turn it in? :roll:


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