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C15 Questions....... step inside!!!
Ok, this is my 2nd kitty and 1st C15 motor.
It is a 2005 Model with twin turbo and 435hp (motor rated to 466) My issue is this thing is a POOCH!!!! It wont climb and damn hill worth a sh*t with only 32K in the box. I thought it might be it needed a new fuel filter so I had Petro do a PM on it, but still no change. I have an appointment at my local CAT dealer to have it put on the dyno to see whats up since it's still under warranty...... Anyone else have this problem or know if this is common on these engines? My other is a 1989 Model Mechanical and it's built quite heavily, but I still think this truck should get up and go... i mean at 32K in the box it takes me about 1/2 mile to 3/4mile to get it up to 60mph from a roll on an on-ramp. Also, I have though maybe the rear ratio and final drive ratio might have something to do with it?? 3.36 rears and a 0.90 final drive in 10th..... Also, this truck is averaging about 5.8-6.2mpg I might as well be driving the Pete at this point. |
>It is a 2005 Model with twin turbo and 435hp (motor rated to 466)
We just bought one of these last week. T2000, 13 speed, 3.6X rear IIRC, C15 Acert TT. 350,000 miles. Not sure what teh Hp is yet. We got it to replace a 2001 T2000, 13 speed, C15, 3.9X rear. I always thought our '01 was a gutless POS too. Never liked it. Lazy, lazy motor. >Also, this truck is averaging about 5.8-6.2mpg I might as well be driving the Pete at this point. Yep. We have a driver in our '01 and granted he drives too fast....70 - 75 mph but he gets 5.9 on a good day in the summer. That's running SB on I-81 through Ny & PA @ 80,000 gross and NB at 35,000. I've never heard anyone brag about fuel mileage in a T2000 or one of those ugly aero peter cars either. Allan will be along here shortly to say that Cats are great and there is somethin' wrong with our trucks. IIRC he has a C13 tho. |
Originally Posted by rgordon212
(Post 423516)
Ok, this is my 2nd kitty and 1st C15 motor.
It is a 2005 Model with twin turbo and 435hp (motor rated to 466) My issue is this thing is a POOCH!!!! It wont climb and damn hill worth a sh*t with only 32K in the box. I thought it might be it needed a new fuel filter so I had Petro do a PM on it, but still no change. I have an appointment at my local CAT dealer to have it put on the dyno to see whats up since it's still under warranty...... Anyone else have this problem or know if this is common on these engines? My other is a 1989 Model Mechanical and it's built quite heavily, but I still think this truck should get up and go... i mean at 32K in the box it takes me about 1/2 mile to 3/4mile to get it up to 60mph from a roll on an on-ramp. Also, I have though maybe the rear ratio and final drive ratio might have something to do with it?? 3.36 rears and a 0.90 final drive in 10th..... Also, this truck is averaging about 5.8-6.2mpg I might as well be driving the Pete at this point. |
Originally Posted by BigDiesel
(Post 423519)
Those bastardized bridge motors are garbage...... No wonder Cat is out of the highway motor biz.....
My is 2005 too. Actually, engine build in march 2004. 475-1850 13(0.73) 3.55 24.5lp. With 44,000 in a box, I'd split top gear couple times on I-80 from NJ to OH. And that's no pushing. The worst MPG, i ever got was 6.3 mpg, with the average lifetime, a bit over 7mpg. So i tend to believe, there is definitely something wrong with that performance.... |
Originally Posted by solo379
(Post 423528)
It's not a "bridge". It's ACERT.
My is 2005 too. Actually, engine build in march 2004. 475-1850 13(0.73) 3.55 24.5lp. With 44,000 in a box, I'd split top gear couple times on I-80 from NJ to OH. And that's no pushing. The worst MPG, i ever got was 6.3 mpg, with the average lifetime, a bit over 7mpg. So i tend to believe, there is definitely something wrong with that performance.... |
I like kitty CAT, but the later models arent all that hot. I like the older CATs better than the newer ones. Like the one in that blue 359 in my avatar. That one has a 425 CAT. 15 speed, and it will burn a hole in the wind. Dont matter how much you got in that hopper bottom, you dont ever know it's back there.
(By the way. That's not my truck :lol: It belongs to a friend of mine) |
My C-15 is 2003 pre-emision, 500hp. 3.7 ratio. Does pretty good. No complaints. 5.5 to 6.5 mpg. 13spd. Must split gears. There is no other way. I do not ever want a 10 spd. 13, 15, or 18spd is the only way to go. Unless you only drive on flat roads.
I think your gears are to tall for the hills. 3.7 or 3.9 for the hills. If your going to be running PA, NY hills, you should have the gears swapped out. My is not a twin screw either. My next road truck will have 3.55. If I can find someone to buy my daycab. |
My last Pete was an 05. 475 with an 18 speed and 3.9 rears. Had plenty of power, And that was grossing 90,000 pounds 11 months of the year. There maybe something wrong with it and it needs a tune up.
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10 speed w/3.36's thats why,it's cruising truck not a jackrabbit starter or puller.
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Yeah thats kind of what i was thinking....
it's NOT an ACERT engine, just a plain old c-15 It's got an autoshift 10speed and it's in an International.... I'm mainly disapointed in the MPG, i honestly expected better. My 05 Pete I bought as a glider and put a older mech kitty in it with a 13 and 3.70 rears and avg is around 5.8mpg Hell, even my 99 Freightliner got 6.5mpg or better and that was with a 430 DET, straight 10speed, 3.90 rears and a flat-top truck pulling van trailer.... then again I never went over 60mph because she was already screeming at 1500rpm's. Well, the International is paid for, and I only run the south in the winter (TX, AL, AR, NM, MS, FL, GA) but in the summer it's all flatland for me and hometime++++ Thanks for the input, I will update if I find anything else out. |
Originally Posted by rgordon212
(Post 423797)
it's NOT an ACERT engine, just a plain old c-15
It's got an autoshift 10speed and it's in an International.... In October 2002 CAT stopped making "plain old c-15", and started to make "bridge", which was almost the same, but from what I've heard, worse version. After October 2003, they started making ACERT(twin turbo).... |
I have the same engine as you along with those 3.36 gear but I have a 13spd. It's a fine gear setup to cruise through the midwest at 65+mph and still get good fuel mileage, but as soon I hit even the slightest incline, I lose a tone of speed and have to eventually shift. A couple weeks ago I was climbing cabbage with 43,000lbs and even a heavy hauler passed me... When I decided to run the west coast only, I'm going to regear this truck for sure.
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Originally Posted by rank
(Post 423518)
>I've never heard anyone brag about fuel mileage in a T2000 or one of those ugly aero peter cars either.
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Originally Posted by solo379
(Post 423817)
It is an ACERT.
In October 2002 CAT stopped making "plain old c-15", and started to make "bridge", which was almost the same, but from what I've heard, worse version. After October 2003, they started making ACERT(twin turbo).... I thought the ACERT motors said ACERT on the valve covers? My buddies 2006 Pete does, this one does not? I dont know, but I do know it gets shitty fuel mileage and does not pull worth a crap. |
Originally Posted by TruckerChris
(Post 424130)
I have the same engine as you along with those 3.36 gear but I have a 13spd. It's a fine gear setup to cruise through the midwest at 65+mph and still get good fuel mileage, but as soon I hit even the slightest incline, I lose a tone of speed and have to eventually shift. A couple weeks ago I was climbing cabbage with 43,000lbs and even a heavy hauler passed me... When I decided to run the west coast only, I'm going to regear this truck for sure.
But again, the loss of power sucks bigtime. But once I drop out of the 10th into 9th, it dont matter what I'm climbing it will hold it's speed.... guess this is typical with these motors... All i know is when i was pulling 32K in the Pete, I could run in 13th and never have to downshift over many hills. |
Originally Posted by rgordon212
(Post 424372)
But once I drop out of the 10th into 9th, it dont matter what I'm climbing it will hold it's speed.... guess this is typical with these motors...
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Originally Posted by mike3fan
(Post 424398)
it's more about the gearing and not the motor.
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i'm stlll wondering how you got a twin turbo with less than 500 - 550 hp on it... and if I was to go with a c15 twin turbo I would definitely go with the 1994 model
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Originally Posted by didydriver
(Post 535433)
i'm stlll wondering how you got a twin turbo with less than 500 - 550 hp on it... and if I was to go with a c15 twin turbo I would definitely go with the 1994 model
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He has no idea, what he's talking about! Probably just a kid wannabe. In 1994 first 3406E was born, and first Acert (twin turbo) in 2004, 10 years later. I happened to have both of those "first born" engines in my trucks. 2004 is still running!
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Originally Posted by solo379
(Post 535451)
He has no idea, what he's talking about! Probably just a kid wannabe. In 1994 first 3406E was born, and first Acert (twin turbo) in 2004, 10 years later. I happened to have both of those "first born" engines in my trucks. 2004 is still running!
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