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Brotherman 08-09-2008 04:26 AM

Transfer Dumps
 
Whats the pro's and con's on them? I'm trying to see how if I can benefit from running one in MD, DE, PA and maybe other surrounding states.

Can I get atleast a 25.5 payload from one?

Mackman 08-09-2008 04:30 AM

East coast dont use transfers. Transfers are a F-ed up west coast thing. I think you mean tri axle or dump trailers. I know you can get around a 24ton pay load in PA with a tri axle and a alum body.

Brotherman 08-09-2008 04:39 AM

I do mean a transfer, I live in Pa! If I can get atleast a 25.5 payload out of MD and go to the same places that can triaxles go.. everywhere isn't dump trailer friendly, why wouldn't it work in the northeast?

Now I do understand I would have to get the same amount of loads as a triaxle for any extra profit. I'm just thinking outside of the box.

Kranky 08-09-2008 10:24 AM

By the time you're done screwing around with all that "transferring", a triaxle will be dumped off and halfway back to the pit for another load.

On an average haul, you'd probably end up with at least one less load per day due to the extra transfer time.

Not to mention the extra initial cost and increased maintenance costs of the transfer setup.

marylandkw 08-09-2008 01:42 PM

Brotherman I also thought outside the box a few years ago and looked into a Transfer dump. I decided against it because of the extra expense of another axle over a tri axle not to mention another registration. Another thought I had was the pain in getting your axles bridged out(around these parts we are all gross not axle on tri-axle dump trucks) and if the transfer box is too heavy at the pit, you are shoveling or dumping both loads trying to get it right. Whole lot of extra pain in the rear for a ton.

Brotherman 08-09-2008 02:29 PM

I'm playing devil's advocate here. If I ran a dump trailer I would have to register the trailer with another axle over a tri. I understand your point on getting the axle weight right, but I'm still not convinced that its not a good do-able idea.

I'm thinking long-term on this idea, not short term. If I were to buy one next march, I will probably lose money just working for a quarry for the 1st year or so until I get a system down.. But as time goes on and these contractors catch wind that I can carry more than a triaxle and still get into tight spots where they can , it might work out!

Is there ton of "risk" involved, absolutely! But I'm willing to take that risk.

I could also go buy a used single frame OTR tractor with light rears, and a detroit and put a tag axle on it with an aluminum body to gross 25-26 ton but I'm not down with that.

marylandkw 08-09-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brotherman
But as time goes on and these contractors catch wind that I can carry more than a triaxle and still get into tight spots where they can , it might work out!

I agree, yet I am not ready to take that chance.

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Originally Posted by Brotherman
Is there ton of "risk" involved, absolutely! But I'm willing to take that risk.

And that is business.

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Originally Posted by Brotherman
I could also go buy a used single frame OTR tractor with light rears, and a detroit and put a tag axle on it with an aluminum body to gross 25-26 ton but I'm not down with that.

Good boy. Don't be foolishly risky, be smart risky! I think you should do it and let me know how it works out. (that's the really smart way for me to risk my money...lol)

Brotherman 08-09-2008 03:01 PM

I hear ya mdkw..lol.. I'm still making phone calls and trying to get work lined up for 2009.. you know how that goes.. 8)

floored 08-11-2008 09:39 PM

worst idea ever. I ran a transfer for a year and I will never go through that hell again. My truck hauled 26tons for what that's worth.

Brotherman 08-11-2008 10:03 PM

Why do you say that?

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Originally Posted by floored
worst idea ever. I ran a transfer for a year and I will never go through that hell again. My truck hauled 26tons for what that's worth.



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