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Mandilon 03-12-2008 05:27 AM

....and the bottom line is:

Fuel is at the price it is (HAS been, IS, and ALWAYS will be) because of 'DEMAND' (the 'hoods' and the hummers need lots of it, -pump it out oil drillers!) and the supply is being held back by oil producing gnats. This combination equals fuel prices. Not more NOT less.

Fuel will be at least $10 per gallon within 5 to 10 years and not a thing will stop it except DEMAND. If we gradually shift to alternative fuels it will SLOW down (at most) petroleum-based fuels.

Instead of WASTING time compaining (-a negative), research best paying traffic lanes, find ways to work more efficiently (-a positive), etc.

There are efficient-minded motor carriers (single units included) out there smiling 'bout all these cry babies yaking it out not even knowing what their talking about and hoping more will go broke so they'll have at a bigger pie. TOO many trucks for NOT enough loads, WHAT does that SPELL?

Let's start with the fuel-wasting inefficient mucho-macho HOODS!

Strike!, strike!, strike!...........gimme a break! This sounds TOO unionistic (communistic-socialistic) and the American consumer hates high-paid union workers.

Grow-up and act like A REAL TRUCKER/business person!

God Bless all!

Mackman 03-12-2008 05:32 AM

Mandilon
you have a big problem with HOODS for some reason what are you mad your not driving one or something?? I know a good bit of o/o that run hoods and are doing ok. Running a hood vs. a aero truck is not going to brake you. Like i said before if you are running a hood and that is making you broke then you got bigger problems.

BigDiesel 03-12-2008 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by allan5oh
You know it's funny how truck drivers, as grown adults, want government out of their lives. "Nobody can run my life as good as I can".

Then their business starts failing, and who do they turn to first? I find that extremely pathetic.

As for the original question in the topic headline, "what can we do about diesel prices?" Well we can:

- Drive more efficiently
- Buy an aerodynamic, well specced truck
- Slow down
- Charge enough to cover our costs

We have a winning answer here !!!! But will the BBR's heed that advice ????.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Last Friday I was rolling east on I-80 (Rt 80 in SteveBooths lexicon) thru Wyoming, cruise set at 65 and I was being passed by other BBR's like I was standing still. Of course the radio was ablaze about the price of diesel and how they are not making any money.... I wonder why ???

allan5oh 03-12-2008 05:52 AM

Yeah then they pull into the pumps, idle their trucks, and bitch about the price.

Then go for buffet, and idle their trucks the whole time.

Then go to bed, and idle their truck for 10 hours straight, wasting $40+ in the process.

Copperhead 03-12-2008 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jagerbomber
Yeah, Let it get 5-10 dollars a gallon so every other thing for the average citizen can get out of reach like the price of gas already is. Yeah, Higher fuel prices ae great for business for a select few but its just throwing the rest of the country under the bus when it comes to the price of the stuff we are hauling....you might earn a few more cents per mile but the general public is not earning a cent more while everything we are hauling goes up. Yeah you get a killer surcharge and a good rate...but who is really paying for that? Not the company paying you. Its the people that are buying their stuff. Its funny to joke about those great surcharges and higher rates but these prices are going to come around and seriously damage the country as a whole if this trend keeps pushing higher.

I didn't say it was a good thing. I did differentiate between business and personal perspectives.

The government got us in this mess. So... instead of continuing to vote for the same knot heads and expecting a different result, don't you think it is time to be a little more selective with our votes? And no, I don't mean vote Democrat just because there is a Republican in the White House. BOTH parties are equally guilty of the problems, albeit, in different ways.

I cannot think of a better time to go third party. I realize the chances of third party candidates winning anything is remote, but it has to start somewhere. And it isn't the presidency that I am concerned with. It is the 535 idiots in the House and Senate that are primarily the problem.

You have to remember, that government (local, State, Federal) LIKES the high fuel prices. After all, the government makes over $2 dollars for every $1 of profit that so-called "big oil" makes (from corporate income taxes on oil companies and federal and state fuel tax). Why would government want to upset the gravy train?

Twilight Flyer 03-12-2008 06:21 AM

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Strike!, strike!, strike!...........gimme a break! This sounds TOO unionistic (communistic-socialistic) and the American consumer hates high-paid union workers.
My point exactly. A PROTEST, however....

That said, though, with ongoing record profits for oil companies, there is room to work. With gas prices looking to easily hit $5 my summer, heating oil and natural gas at 3 digit percentage increases, and the fact that the high price of oil is driving this country into a full-blown recession, something is going to have to give. It will be interesting to see whether the government gives in and does something positive (drilling rights, refineries, alternative fuel, etc.) or whether the country infrastructure gives out. Because in the end, one or the other is going to happen.

Looking back through this thread and others, I have yet to find a single statement where someone is actually asking the government to step in and bail them out. There is nothing wrong, however, with holding your government accountable to do what is right by the people. That's their job and why you elected them in the first place.

MedicineMan 03-12-2008 08:32 AM

The fsc covers the fuel but the disturbing thing I am seening this last wek or two is that shipers are refusing to agree to any more fsc increases. And with freight at the same rates it was at in 1994 it's hard to keep the trucks running.
I have seen all over that trucks are parked and being repo'd. they just can't do it anymore. Brokers are starting to say they can't get loads covered ad are asking if we are already striking.
I don't like the idea of a strike. It's a work stopage because we just flat out simply can not operate any more. Guys have been dipping in there reserves for a long time already an now every little repair is a ctastrophic event and it shouldn't get that way.
FOr god sakes people STOP hauling cheap freight it' killing everyone. If you can't get a load to cover your costs and pay you then don't haul the thing. If you haul it the rates will ever come up.
I say we need a large public display to inform the people of what is going on. We need action and we need to get it covered by the press

Twilight Flyer 03-12-2008 09:07 AM

I've read that thread on the other board, MM. Do you really think you are going to have any luck with 20 odd drivers all yammering about shutting down wherever they are, with several different dates, no leadership, and no real plan? And how successful do you think you are going to be when someone somehow make the fuel price issue about Mexicans and says he's got bricks and a gun and he's ready to go?

:roll:

You're not going to get a work stoppage, period. You're not going to get the press looking at you if you've got 50 drivers parked on the side of the road or at home all over the nation. The only, ONLY thing you can do is a peaceful demonstration in DC...well-planned and well-led. Truckers are already on thin ice financially and the public has a healthy disdain for them. Start talking about "STRIKE" and people are going to roll their eyes and walk away, even if they agree with your cause.

You want to make a point? Do it the right way. A "STRIKE" ain't it.

BigDiesel 03-12-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
I've read that thread on the other board, MM. Do you really think you are going to have any luck with 20 odd drivers all yammering about shutting down wherever they are, with several different dates, no leadership, and no real plan? And how successful do you think you are going to be when someone somehow make the fuel price issue about Mexicans and says he's got bricks and a gun and he's ready to go?

:roll:

You're not going to get a work stoppage, period. You're not going to get the press looking at you if you've got 50 drivers parked on the side of the road or at home all over the nation. The only, ONLY thing you can do is a peaceful demonstration in DC...well-planned and well-led. Truckers are already on thin ice financially and the public has a healthy disdain for them. Start talking about "STRIKE" and people are going to roll their eyes and walk away, even if they agree with your cause.

You want to make a point? Do it the right way. A "STRIKE" ain't it.

I read those threads on the other board also and they are a joke. Not one of them can put a sentence together properly. So why would anyone take them seriously ??? I just wish I could post a response, but I was banned last year... But it's pretty easy to get banned there if you do not follow the Party Line... Komrade... :lol:

Twilight Flyer 03-12-2008 09:29 AM

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But it's pretty easy to get banned there if you do not follow the Party Line... Komrade
:lol: :lol:

I've heard that they sacrifice republican supporters on blood covered altars and eat their internal organs whilst listening to the music of Culture Club. It's not very pretty.

;)


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