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Mandilon 12-14-2007 06:00 AM

Growing a 500 truck company within 6 years........
 
http://truckinginhighgear.com/trucki...istics_McAllen

$100 MILLION within 6 years.......?

...enjoy :arrow:

allan5oh 12-14-2007 06:16 AM

What a terrible way to plug a certain brand.

Every brand can get that kind of fuel mileage, or even better, running in the south doing 62-65 mph.

Every brand can be reliable.

The key to their succcess:


Co-owned by partners Aurelio Aleman, Sergio Lagos and George Gomez, U.S.A. Logistics Carriers specializes in serving factories south of the border and transporting finished goods all over the United States.
Think about how much more money they could save by not trading their trucks in every 3 years. If kenworths were so great, that wouldn't be needed.

Mandilon 12-14-2007 06:45 AM


What a terrible way to plug a certain brand.

Every brand can get that kind of fuel mileage, or even better, running in the south doing 62-65 mph.

Every brand can be reliable.

The key to their succcess:

Quote:
Co-owned by partners Aurelio Aleman, Sergio Lagos and George Gomez, U.S.A. Logistics Carriers specializes in serving factories south of the border and transporting finished goods all over the United States.


Think about how much more money they could save by not trading their trucks in every 3 years. If kenworths were so great, that wouldn't be needed.
My main intent of message is:

WITHIN the last 6 years how many co.'s/O-O have gone BELLY-UP?

Why is this co. growin s-o fast? -Because they avoided the inefficient Peterbilt FUEL HOGS? -I really think this is one of the reasons.


What a terrible way to plug a certain brand.
I HATE plugging ANY ONE brand, matter of fact I REMOVE co. emblems from anything I drive. I'm not their advertiser.

God Bless ALL!

allan5oh 12-14-2007 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon
My main intent of message is:

WITHIN the last 6 years how many co.'s/O-O have gone BELLY-UP?

Lots.


Why is this co. growin s-o fast? -Because they avoided the inefficient Peterbilt FUEL HOGS? -I really think this is one of the reasons.
2% of their revenue. The reason they're successful is because they're specialized.


I HATE plugging ANY ONE brand, matter of fact I REMOVE co. emblems from anything I drive. I'm not their advertiser.

God Bless ALL!
I was speaking more of the article itself.

ToxicWaste 12-14-2007 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon
My main intent of message is:

WITHIN the last 6 years how many co.'s/O-O have gone BELLY-UP?

Why is this co. growin s-o fast? -Because they avoided the inefficient Peterbilt FUEL HOGS? -I really think this is one of the reasons.

I agree, they're ugly too!

Mandilon 12-14-2007 07:00 AM


The reason they're successful is because they're specialized.
IF the *SECRET* to success is s-o simple...., why don't more co.'s/O-O SPECIALIZE????

-just courious :D

allan5oh 12-14-2007 07:06 AM

Because they're lazy.

You don't necessarily have to haul specialized freight to "specialize".

Could just be better service, integrated IT, overnight service, etc..

Twilight Flyer 12-14-2007 07:31 AM


Could just be better service
That's it, right there.

A lot of drivers and/or company big wigs don't understand that. If you specialize in cheap freight with a 75% on-time delivery rate, that's what your whole business is going to revolve around. It's the carriers that run 98% or 99% on-time delivery that basically write their own ticket. In todays JIT world, an on-time carrier can set their rates, pay their drivers, and roll in the money.

Ridge Runner 12-14-2007 08:11 AM

Proving once again my theroy that you can add value to ANYTHING1

no_worries 12-14-2007 08:13 AM

That story doesn't tell you anything about how successful they are. The earned $100,000,000 in revenue...what's that tell you? Not much except the volume of business they do. With very few exceptions most trucking companies had higher revenue this year than in 2006. With very few exceptions, most trucking companies had significantly less profit than 2006. Many had losses. I've seen their recruiting literature and wasn't terribly impressed. I'll bet you'd have a hard time getting them to back up their statement regarding pay with hard numbers...I've seen what they broker freight out for :shock: :lol:

Don't believe everything you read.

rank 12-14-2007 03:08 PM


It's the carriers that run 98% or 99% on-time delivery that basically write their own ticket. In todays JIT world, an on-time carrier can set their rates, pay their drivers, and roll in the money.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ozone 12-14-2007 05:36 PM

Actually nearly all the trucks in USA's "nearly all-Kenworth fleet" are
Peterbuilts. They have a drop yard here in Laredo and most of the trucks are Peterbuilts.

That is incredible growth for six years. Makes you wonder if they are hauling something else (green or white stuff) from Mexico besides the cargo from the Mexican factories.

GMAN 12-15-2007 12:27 AM

For that kind of growth they would have needed to have a truckload of money to start or carry a huge debt load. There are some of the older trucking companies who have no debt. When they upgrade their fleet it is done by paying cash. Now those carriers are making money. Sometimes you need to look beyond the revenue numbers. It isn't how much you gross but how much you net that is important. There have been many companies who have gone broke who have had many millions of dollars in revenue. Unless there is profit, bankruptcy is just around the corner. I am not saying this carrier is going under, only that you need to look beyond the obvious.

Mandilon 12-16-2007 04:45 AM


......Makes you wonder if they are hauling something else (green or white stuff) from Mexico besides the cargo from the Mexican factories.
This is a L-O-S-E-R_'S mentality.

Just because *YOU can't accomplish one-thousanth (one milionth MOST likely) of what they're accomplishing shows you're a jealous/sour-PUSS/incompetent loser.

This co. is working in conjunction with the EPA to further the cause of diminishing our reliance on terrorist oil. They're improving their fleet's fuel economy over and above what's available from the manufacturers via aerodynamic components etc. EPA wants this from ALL energy users in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY.

-what are YOU doing in the name of national security *LOSER!

God Bless ALL, -Y-E-S!, sour-PUSS losers TOO!

gcal 12-16-2007 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

......Makes you wonder if they are hauling something else (green or white stuff) from Mexico besides the cargo from the Mexican factories.
This is a L-O-S-E-R_'S mentality.

Just because *YOU can't accomplish one-thousanth (one milionth MOST likely) of what they're accomplishing shows you're a jealous/sore/incompetent loser.

This co. is working in conjunction with the EPA to further the cause of diminishing our reliance on terrorist oil. They're improving their fleet's fuel economy over and above what's available from the manufacturers via aerodynamic components etc. EPA wants this from ALL energy users in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY.

-what are YOU doing in the name of national security LOSER!

God Bless ALL, -Y-E-S!, losers TOO!

Hey Amigo! R U working for them or just paid to defend them and promote their company? LOL

Mandilon 12-16-2007 05:45 AM


Hey Amigo! R U working for them or just paid to defend them and promote their company? LOL
No sir. None of the above.

I do want to meet them (and other owners of successful trucking co.'s) and see if I can duplicate some of their success. I'll be leaving for Austin next week and will try to meet them in McAllen.

There's a co. named Mesilla Valley something in Eastern NM (in the vicinity of El Paso) that I've been told has 3,000, 2,000 and 900 trucks (three different estimates from individuals).

Does anyone know an approximate number? I see them all over LA.

My enthusiasm/excitement in reading of such trucking successes is that I'm personally aiming on taking such a path (growing a large fleet).

I also GREATELY respect ANY co. that is concerned for our national security. This is one of MY main priorities.

Why is it *EXACTLY that one can't comment on such endeavors?

Envy, etc., etc., etc.

I BASICALLY do understand the negative responses. This relpyers are born losers.

God Bless you sir.

Bigmon 12-16-2007 05:51 AM

One of the keys to big growth is access to big capital. Comes down to who you know and how good you can schmooze them.

One day I was wondering how Penkse got so big. I found out GE is one of his partners.

Bandit102 12-16-2007 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

Hey Amigo! R U working for them or just paid to defend them and promote their company? LOL
No sir. None of the above.

I do want to meet them (and other owners of successful trucking co.'s) and see if I can duplicate some of their success. I'll be leaving for Austin next week and will try to meet them in McAllen.

There's a co. named Mesilla Valley something in Eastern NM (in the vicinity of El Paso) that I've been told has 3,000, 2,000 and 900 trucks (three different estimates from individuals).

Does anyone know an approximate number? I see them all over LA.

My enthusiasm/excitement in reading of such trucking successes is that I'm personally aiming on taking such a path (growing a large fleet).

I also GREATELY respect ANY co. that is concerned for our national security. This is one of MY main priorities.

Why is it *EXACTLY that one can't comment on such endeavors?

Envy, etc., etc., etc.

I BASICALLY do understand the negative responses. This relpyers are born losers.

God Bless you sir.

Mesilla Valley Trucking. Royal Jones started with nearly nothing not too many years ago. He's a good hand and knows how to do business. He's not the greatest to his Lease Operators, but he is a businessman. I don't know how many trucks he has, I would guesstimate 2,500. He's opened a school as well. I've known him for many many years. Never tried to work for him though. They are out of Las Cruces, NM, 65 miles away from me.

Mandilon 12-16-2007 07:05 AM


Mesilla Valley Trucking. Royal Jones started with nearly nothing not too many years ago. He's a good hand and knows how to do business. He's not the greatest to his Lease Operators, but he is a businessman. I don't know how many trucks he has, I would guesstimate 2,500. He's opened a school as well. I've known him for many many years. Never tried to work for him though. They are out of Las Cruces, NM, 65 miles away from me.
Bandit102

I'm going to meet 'the man' as soon as conditions permit. I need to get past his 'front line' of course.

Any suggestions?

THX 4 the info, -that IS IMPRESSIVE!

It is said that you will never become what you envy. Thank God I don't envy successful/rich individuals, that puts me a notch ahead of the outright losers.

God Bless you Bandit! :!:

BanditsCousin 12-16-2007 07:32 AM

What is TruckingInOverDriver.com all about?

GMAN 12-16-2007 03:10 PM

It seems that they are doing well, however it would be interesting to see whether the fsc is the primary reason for their increased revenue or actual growth. Without seeing the balance sheet or p & l it is difficult to see whether they are actually profitable and to what level or simply generating a lot of revenue. Revenue doesn't necessarily translate into profit. Many carriers can show increased revenue from the higher fsc collected from shippers. It seems that they have found a niche and managed to develop a good shipper base. They have a good strategic location for their market. All too often some people assume that a company that achieves a high level of success, especially within a short time frame, does so due to illegal activity. It could be that they were successful by starting with a good cash reserve and a lot of sweat. It takes a lot of effort to achieve success. I am sure all of the partners made sacrifices. Success is rarely achieved by accident. And most achieved their goals by the sweat of their brow.

merrick4 12-16-2007 03:29 PM

One of the owners donated to Hilary, hate to ruin it for some :)


Aurelio Aleman
Information Requested
USA Logistics Canins Updated
Q1/2007
Hillary Clinton
$1,700
2008 4405 S H ST
Mcallen TX

I'll say one thing, these guys have a good plan; I'm surprised it hasn't happened before. I heard a news story not too long ago about some chicken company in Mexico that is becoming huge, I think they are even listed on one of the Exchanges here in the States. They haven't started exporting to here yet but they plan on doing it soon.

Information in and of itself is useless unless you know what to do with it. I think I read that these guys, U.S.A Logistics, have 25 years in the industry so they knew what to do with NAFTA.

I always wondered why too that one of the American companies didn't partner up with a Mexican company and "share" trailers so instead of crossing into the border and swapping it to an American trailer they just don't drop and hook. Maybe that does happen now that I think of it. I don't know what they do with stuff after it crossed the border.

If so much is coming into Laredo, how come this is no freight in Laredo? Who is picking it all up?

By the way GMAN I hope you do this dispatch thing, all the time you have invested in this industry should be profitable to you.

GMAN 12-16-2007 04:38 PM

I understand that there have been some mergers or partnering by U.S. and Mexican carriers to skirt the law, just as there has been similar partnerships between some U.S. and Canadian carriers. According to a Celadon driver I spoke with a few months ago, they are already operating in Mexico and the Mexicans are doing the same over here. Frankly, I think this has been going on for some time. The problem is that it isn't being discussed.

It looks like I am proceeding on a very limited scale with the dispatching, Merrick. There are some things to be worked out, but I am getting involved with it on a limited basis. The way I am approaching it I will see if it will be profitable for me and those whom I will dispatch. I don't want to take on more people than I feel comfortable working with starting out. I still need to keep my own trucks moving. Right now we seem to be doing better than a lot of folks, but rates still are not what I would like to see.

merrick4 12-17-2007 07:18 AM

I'm glad you got started GMAN and think it is wise to start of slow (of course you don't need me telling you that :) ). I know you've probably gotten 50 private messages requesting your service, but I'll just say it here. If you do decide to do reefer/dry van freight I'd be willing to jump on board.

Either way I wish you the best in this new venture.

BigDiesel 12-17-2007 07:28 AM

Re: Growing a 500 truck company within 6 years........
 

Originally Posted by Mandilon
http://truckinginhighgear.com/trucki...istics_McAllen

$100 MILLION within 6 years.......?

...enjoy :arrow:

Are you hoping your Trucking in High Gear website, that looks like a Ponzi scheme, will get you to the big money????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

jdtj63 12-17-2007 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer

Could just be better service
That's it, right there.

A lot of drivers and/or company big wigs don't understand that. If you specialize in cheap freight with a 75% on-time delivery rate, that's what your whole business is going to revolve around. It's the carriers that run 98% or 99% on-time delivery that basically write their own ticket. In todays JIT world, an on-time carrier can set their rates, pay their drivers, and roll in the money.

BS!!!

no_worries 12-17-2007 10:18 AM

I'll second that...awfully naive :roll:

Mack2 12-20-2007 12:20 AM

Notice it says only 150 of the trucks are KW T660's. What are the other 350 trucks?

BanditsCousin 12-20-2007 04:48 AM

The majority of their trucks are Pete 379's w/ fairings. I believe this is the same company we're talking about in the link. White trucks, right?

Mandilon 12-20-2007 08:53 AM

Yep, they're not profitable ENOUGH: they're TOO far from making it to the largest in trucking 100 list!


Top 100 Trucking Companies by Revenue
2003 Revenue (in Millions)
1-United Parcel Service $21,339,874
2-FedEx Ground 3,912,000
3-Schneider National 2,905,000
4-Roadway Express, Inc. 2,844,214
5-Yellow Transportation Inc. 2,788,078
6-FedEx Freight 2,689,000
7-J.B. Hunt Transport, Inc. 2,433,469
8-Swift Transportation Co. 2,397,655
9-Con-Way Trptn. Services 2,107,258
10-Overnite Transportation 1,475,463
11-Ryder Integrated Logistics 1,459,603
12-Werner Enterprises, Inc. 1,457,766
13-ABF Freight System, Inc. 1,347,078
14-United Van Lines, Inc. 1,163,437
15-USF Holland, Holland, Mich 983,830
16-Penske Logistics, Inc. 896,324
17-Watkins Motor Lines, Inc. 865,676
18-Allied Systems, Ltd. 865,463
19-Estes Express Lines 864,813
20-U.S. Xpress Ent. 795,239
21-Landstar Ranger 772,599
22-Old Dominion Freight Line 667,531
23-Averitt Express, Inc. 625,948
24-North American Van Lines 590,176
25-Covenant Transport. 582,457
26-TNT Logistics 572,291
27-Carriers 565,440
29-Prime, Inc. 559,153
30-CRST, Inc. 525,362
31-Crete Carrier Corp. 521,946
32-Saia Motor Freight Line 520,668
33-C. R. England 499,881
34-Southeastern Freight. Lines 483,811
35-Landstar Inway, Inc. 483,095
36-Mayflower Transit, Inc. 419,959
37-Atlas Van Lines, Inc. 418,052
39-Allied Van Lines 416,799
40-AAA Cooper Transportation. 408,004
41-Heartland Express 405,116
42-Central Freight Lines, Inc. 389,696
43-Interstate Distributor Co. 369,000
44-Celadon Trucking Services 367,105
45-Contract Freighters, Inc. 362,174
46-Anderson Trucking Services 359,931
47-Ruan Transportation Corp. 352,406
48-Dart Transit Company 351,345
49-Marten Transport, Ltd. 334,667
50-Frozen Food Express 334,066
51-Knight Transportation 327,679
52-Jevic Transportation 306,691
53-Velocity Express 302,088
54-USA Truck, Inc. 298,663
55-Stevens Transport, Inc. 294,254
56-USF Reddaway 294,240
57-P.A.M.Transport, Inc. 293,547
58-USF Logistics, Inc. 276,441
59-Dynamex, Inc., Dallas 269,187
60-Transport Corp. Of America 258,859
61-KLLM, Inc. 251,889
62-Landstar Ligon, Inc. 247,736
63-Forward Air Corp., Inc. 241,517
64-USF Dugan 232,362
65-New England Motor Freight 231,040
66-Mercer Transportation 230,497
67-CSX Freight Services 217,857
68-New Penn Motor Express 216,478
69-Pitt-Ohio Express, Inc. 205,470
70-Cardinal Freight 200,033
71-Shaffer Trucking 199,841
72-Western Express 198,000
73-Bekins Van Lines 197,803
74-Ace Transportation, Inc. 197,120
75-G.I.Trucking Company 194,675
76-Kenan Transport Co. 194,384
77-Paschall Truck Lines, Inc. 187,733
78-National Freight, Inc. 187,224
79-The Waggoners Trucking 186,380
80-Roehl Transport, Inc. 184,649
81-Cassens Transport Co. 181,484
82-Arnold Transportation Services 175,651
83-CD&L. 166,083
84-Superior 164,937
85-Gainey Transportation Services163,902
86-Motor Cargo 143,600
87-Ashley Distribution Services 159,342
88-Gordon Trucking, Inc. 159,173
89-Dawes Transport, Inc. 158,496
90-USF Bestway 157,873
91-Vitran Express 156,230
92-Arrow Trucking Company 150,438
93-Roberson Transportation 149,096
94-Graebel Van Lines, Inc. 148,819
95-Leaseway Motorcar 144,058
96-Roadrunner Freight Systems 142,811
97-Navajo Express, Inc. 141,417
98-Groendyke Transport, Inc. 138,167
99-Supervalu Transportation Inc.137,251
100-Jack Cooper Transport. Co. 135,592
101-Maverick Transportation, Inc. 130,832

merrick4 12-20-2007 10:12 AM

I guess being 85 on a list is highly desireable. Here's Harvey Gainey lounging in his corporate jet

http://www.businessweek.com/adsectio...sportation.htm

People like this is are so successful but I worked at LCT and I swear if that's how you need to run a company to make it in this world, I mean that company was a mess (though they treated me nicely or at least tried to).

Bandit102 12-20-2007 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

Mesilla Valley Trucking. Royal Jones started with nearly nothing not too many years ago. He's a good hand and knows how to do business. He's not the greatest to his Lease Operators, but he is a businessman. I don't know how many trucks he has, I would guesstimate 2,500. He's opened a school as well. I've known him for many many years. Never tried to work for him though. They are out of Las Cruces, NM, 65 miles away from me.
Bandit102

I'm going to meet 'the man' as soon as conditions permit. I need to get past his 'front line' of course.

Any suggestions?

THX 4 the info, -that IS IMPRESSIVE!

It is said that you will never become what you envy. Thank God I don't envy successful/rich individuals, that puts me a notch ahead of the outright losers.

God Bless you Bandit! :!:

You'd be amazed once you get through his front line. He's a down to earth good old boy, really. He's into roundy-round dirt track racing, has a lot to do with the local track there in Las Cruces. Part owner or something like that. He's a good hand. Just knows how to turn small opportunities into gold.

BanditsCousin 12-21-2007 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

14-United Van Lines, Inc. 1,163,437

94-Graebel Van Lines, Inc. 148,819

Hmmm, who drives for these carriers? :lol: :lol:

Mandilon 12-24-2007 06:01 AM


..........Just knows how to turn small opportunities into gold.
Do U know of a website-forum where these kind of individuals congregate (or do they avoid such 'cause they're too busy)?

Am I the only 'lunatic' on this board (today is full moon U know) that thinks he can grow such a co.?

The most successful individuals in the world have at one time or another been classified as lunatics by their peers.

Happy holidays to all

merrick4 12-24-2007 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon
The most successful individuals in the world have at one time or another been classified as lunatics by their peers.

You are only crazy til you make it, after that you are just eccentric.

12-24-2007 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

The most successful individuals in the world have at one time or another been classified as lunatics by their peers.


You R-Tard. Have you completely lost it. You need to get a grip on yourself and come back down to reality. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. You will never amount to anything. You don't apply yourself. I think you seriously need some counseling and maybe a little Prozac.

I hope that helps!!! :D

bullhauler 12-29-2007 02:22 PM

Gibson transport alliston Ontario Canada, three trucks farther two sons just making a living, along comes Honda built a plant in there town, came to them you are local trucking company, you haul for us. They haul all the parts and supplies into that plant, three trucks to six hundred, in three years. To grow like that you need one big contract. jb hunt, walmart. Day Ross, McCain foods, fast trax, maple leaf foods. manitoulin, Canadian tire. See how it is done, if that is what you want to do, it comes all the way down to the small boys by me. ktl, big sky. right down to me we have three trucks, two shippers that give us eighty percent of our loads. gas out of Regina Sask, co-op has sixty trailers, I have friends that have from six to twenty five trucks on with them. you grow in the field you know as fast as you want to, right now three trucks is all we want

Mandilon 01-13-2008 12:54 PM

Steve


You R-Tard. Have you completely lost it. You need to get a grip on yourself and come back down to reality. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. You will never amount to anything. You don't apply yourself. I think you seriously need some counseling and maybe a little Prozac.

I hope that helps!!!
....would you provide me with your shrink's contact info :lol:

Bandit102 01-13-2008 03:40 PM

I wish I did know of such a site! It has been said that if one were to become successful, he should surround himself with those who are.

01-13-2008 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mandilon

The most successful individuals in the world have at one time or another been classified as lunatics by their peers.

I was just trying to help you on your way. Remember me when your on the Forbes list.


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