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MoonlightGraham 10-06-2007 09:24 PM

CRST Malone - can this be right?
 
Was flipping thru one of those free trucker magazines when I came across an ad from CRST Malone for owner operators. The average loaded rate they were touting was $1.77 per loaded mile plus $0.28 per mile fuel surcharge (as of Feb 07). Their website (http://www.malonecontractors.com/contractor.html) also makes this claim.

This adds up to $2.05 per loaded mile for o/o leased to them. Seems way too good to be true, especially if you assume they are covering cargo/liability insurance and base plates.

I doubt many with own authority are averaging $2.05/loaded mile.

I know Gman used to run for CRST and has mostly good things to say about them.

I am looking to buy my own truck one day soon and had planned on getting my own authority. But at these rates, why bother with all the paperwork? No cargo/liability insurance, no IRP, no IFTA reports, and no billing and cashflow problems.

What's the catch here? What am I missing? Any input would be appreciated.

BTW, I spend a lot of time reading posts on this forum and have learned a great deal from all of you. I rarely post because, well, I rarely have anything intelligent to say... Do have a lot of dumb questions, though...

Thanks

Maniac 10-06-2007 10:17 PM

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What am I missing?



That $1.77 is GROSS revenue, you would get a percentage of that like 75%

That would make it $1.32 or so plus the surcharge, that would make it $1.60 a LOADED mile, factor in some deadhead, and you will be lucky to CLEAR $1.30 or so for all miles.

Red Clay Rambler 10-06-2007 10:18 PM

I saw the same thing and thought it might be a misprint. I assumed that rate included the FSC. I think they charge for use of their base plate. They also charge for trailer rental if you don't use your own as most flatbed companies do.

My conversation with one of their recruiters was straightforward, no hype/pressure/sales tactics and no mention to me of lease/purchase. They also told me they offer health insurance through them at very competitive rates, not sure if spouse/family coverage is also available.

Dispatch_This 10-06-2007 10:19 PM

I believe that it's 1.77 per loaded mile GROSS. What you need to find out is what percentage of 1.77/mi is being paid to the truck, and how much deadhead (on average) there will be. You will probably discover that what the truck actually nets is about the same as what other carriers are paying.

rank 10-07-2007 01:01 AM

Re: CRST Malone - can this be right?
 
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Originally Posted by MoonlightGraham
I doubt many with own authority are averaging $2.05/loaded mile.

$4.21/loaded mile for September. 9 loads for $11,588 on 2750 miles.

:wink:

solo379 10-07-2007 01:33 AM

Re: CRST Malone - can this be right?
 
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Originally Posted by rank
$4.21/loaded mile for September. 9 loads for $11,588 on 2750 miles.

But that's not your "average"? Is it? :P

mudpuddle 10-07-2007 03:28 AM

I believe Rank also does short mileage cross border loads so his loaded CPM will naturallybe higher than someone doing longer loads in the lower 48.

GMAN 10-07-2007 04:14 AM

The ad you quote is most likely the gross rate before CRST Malone gets their cut. They pay 75% of the rate and 100% of the fsc. When I leased to them, I averaged $1.66 for ALL miles including deadhead. I kept my deadhead miles at slightly less than 10%. At the time I was there I believe my rate was a little higher than some others. A friend of mine recently got his authority after being leased to them. At one point he was averaging about $2/mile including fsc, but was running shorter runs and getting home every weekend. You furnish your own trailer or can rent one of theirs. The owner operator also furnishes his own base plate, but they will pay for them and take a set amount out of each weekly settlement. It is cheaper to get your own. Like any percentage carrier, they have good and poor paying loads. I don't recall seeing too many really cheap loads, but I know some agents had them. I simply refused to haul them. That is your option when you lease to CRST Malone or any of the other percentage carriers. It is up to you to find the good traffic lanes and the better paying loads.

rank 10-07-2007 04:30 AM

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But that's not your "average"? Is it?
It was my average for Sept :)
Previous months averages were:
3.51, 3.09, 4.08, 3.31, 2.44, 3.19, 2.12, 4.45, 2.11, 2.26

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I believe Rank also does short mileage cross border loads...
yeah. 9 backhauls in Sept for 2750 loaded miles = 305 mile average. Pretty short. All cross border. It's not exactly apples to apples.

Hiway61 10-08-2007 06:50 AM

Question from N00b
 
Not to 'jack the thread too far, but if one is an O/O, leased to a a carrier, that they still locate and own loads and get a cut of the 25% that would normally go to the carrier?
(Hmmm bit confusing, can't think of a way to make it simpler --- just looking for the best of both worlds, I guess.) :?:
Again .. my thanks to those who help out N00bs here.


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