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jeffron 05-10-2007 03:00 PM

Melton lease
 
After my three week mistake at Covenant I took three weeks off at home reading CAD morning noon and night. I decided I want to flatbed.TMC sounds great but I dont think it would take me three or four weeks out with a trainer to fly the space shuttle,let alone learn to flatbed. Right now I have the option to either go company or lease with Melton.Ive been told by a few trucker friends the only way to expect to make it with a lease program is to hire someone to do my books.As Ive stated in my previous postings,I would not move without consulting you folks here at CAD.So give me the good,bad and ugly.I know you vets get tired of explaining the lease program,but I think Im a fast learner and if anyone can do it I can.Im just sitting here wishing I was driving down the road, I will respond to all replies quickly,till I get back to work this is all I have to do.

GMAN 05-10-2007 04:10 PM

We have written a lot about these fleece purchase deals. The short of it is that you will make more as a company driver than if you lease a truck from the carrier for whom you work. If you want to make more money, get some experience, save your money and buy a truck on your own. You will spend less money to buy than lease. You can't afford to run for what most of these fleece operations want to pay you as a lease operator. If you want to post the figures for their lease and how they pay, we will be glad to give you specific input.

jeffron 05-10-2007 05:13 PM

OK OK NO lease program for me...boy they make it sound sooo good,the lease pitch the companies sell is almost hypnotic. I stii hear the recruiter's smooth voice telling me about how everything will work out so easy.Even after reading everything on CAD I still almost fell for the lease deal.I been driving almost 9 months and I see driving is the easy part to this business.Trucks run this country,so why does everybody want to screw us over???

GMAN 05-10-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffron
OK OK NO lease program for me...boy they make it sound sooo good,the lease pitch the companies sell is almost hypnotic. I stii hear the recruiter's smooth voice telling me about how everything will work out so easy.Even after reading everything on CAD I still almost fell for the lease deal.I been driving almost 9 months and I see driving is the easy part to this business.Trucks run this country,so why does everybody want to screw us over???


The do it because they can. They get away with it because that is what many drivers want. There are so many drivers who will do most anything to be an owner operator, even if it means selling their soul. Most people gain some experience in a business before starting their own. You either need deep pockets to get you through the learning curve or work for someone where you can learn as much as possible. It is still different when you are the one who is responsible for paying the bills. Running a truck isn't rocket science, but it does take a certain amount of intelligence and more importantly, discipline. You don't need to be a genius, but will need to discipline yourself to do what is necessary to be successful.

In defense of these fleece purchase programs, companies must go through a lot of drivers to find the few who will get the job done and take care of the equipment. When a driver is leasing a truck, he will usually take better care of it than if he was a company driver. He has the illusion of being an owner operator without the benefit of ownership. He normally will have forced maintenance which he must pay for along with his own fuel, etc., The carrier still owns the equipment, but has the assurance that the equipment will be better maintained since the driver is responsible for the costs. Since the driver isn't an employee, he doesn't receive the insurance and other benefits given to the company drivers. Most of the fleece purchase deals offer the driver a low mileage pay rate. It is a sweet deal for the carrier.

tootie04 05-10-2007 06:23 PM

Glad ya saw the light....lease deals are HARD to make work. Melton has one of the less desirable "deals" you wont own the truck in the end. You would still have a balloon to pay and have to finance that same truck AGAIN just to pay it off.

There is a guy on the what about this company board under "swift flatbed" who has just leased his truck and is writing is story if ya want to read his story.

Best thing to do is save your money till ya get a down payment and then get your truck.

tootie

jeffron 05-10-2007 06:27 PM

Ive worked in banking,and for a very large global software company,and Ive done all types of residential and commercial construction. Ive never seen a place like CAD.There is no reason for a trucker to make a stupid move,just register,login,post your question and BLAM..Strenght in numbers. OK,I want a new International Eagle with all the goodies..I got 8 month OTR,whats a realistic timeframe for getting my own rig?NO LEASE.

tootie04 05-10-2007 06:44 PM

I think most places like to see 2 years exp. Whether you lease on to a carrier or go on your own you will need the exp for ins purposes MOST of the time.

tootie

GMAN 05-10-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffron
Ive worked in banking,and for a very large global software company,and Ive done all types of residential and commercial construction. Ive never seen a place like CAD.There is no reason for a trucker to make a stupid move,just register,login,post your question and BLAM..Strenght in numbers. OK,I want a new International Eagle with all the goodies..I got 8 month OTR,whats a realistic timeframe for getting my own rig?NO LEASE.


If you have the cash you can buy it anytime you want. Finding a good carrier that will lease you on may not be so easy. :P

Cam 05-10-2007 10:17 PM

I like lease purchase because you invest nothing and you really get to see what owning a truck is about. I too agree that you shouldn't expect to ever own that truck, only that you are making a wage and just learning trucking shizzle. Then, when you are ready, you line up your financing and pick out a truck and away you go. But, I'm not very popular :cry: :cry: :cry:

Here's my contribution to this thread, company flatbed is stupid (trying to boost my popularity :lol: ) Seriously, these O/Os who pull flatbed would never do it for van wages, why do company drivers pull flatbed for van wages!? New guy to a company I worked for, picking up pre-loaded flatbeds next to each other. We're out there placing our straps and he says, 'what do we get for doing this?' He was a veteran and had pulled everything else so he wanted to try flats. I told him, 'pride?', 'fresh air', 'an extra one or two cents per mile'? An exta penny or two, van guys will make that up in no time in miles.

BanditsCousin 05-13-2007 11:14 PM

Melton only pays about $1.20/mi too. Throw fuel, insurance, and 1 meal a day in the equation and you'll see how its not as great as it seems.


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