Frankly, I would say the same thing about driving. I make my money in the trailer, not behind the wheel.

A wise man once told me, "The more time you spend in (or on) the trailer, the more money you'll make". I've found that to be VERY true.

Does it matter? He asked a question, and I answered it. I don't see you posting your numbers here......


Dude, take it easy, not everone is on ,,your case'' the way you think they are, i am glad you are doing well and am glad to see you making it so theres no need for attitude, at least not towards me as i know those numbers to be true, i DONT doubt you..
My rates are not the ones you mentioned as i dont do the type of work that you do and about 80% of all dry van trucks make about the same..
You cannot compare specialized haul with the regular one expecialy if there is labor involved, you will make more, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT as you should !

BTW i get about 1.20-30 to the truck, 1.18 or so these past couple of months due to the freight being slow...which again doesnt affect you :?:

It isn't a matter of you doubting me or not. It's a matter of you saying that my rates don't count, because I am in a specialized field. GMAN likes to do this as well, and I have yet to see any justification for it. My rates are just as real as your rates. When push comes to shove, I have a net income just like you. The O.P. was inquiring as to what the different trades made, depending upon what type of trailer pulled, and what commodity hauled. Since I pull a trailer, and haul commodities, my numbers apply.

I know several people who would argue that point. Plus every lease operator for C.R.E.

Actually, you can. If you subtract out the labor (which I am never shy on saying how much it costs me in labor), you can get a rough idea of what I make vs. everyone else. Since I pulled in just over $182,000 last year on 54941 miles, and had about $35,000 in labor, that puts me at $147,000, or $2.68 per mile.

I would be curious as to how many miles you drive, as it would give a better comparison to what I do to get a total amount rather than a per-mile amount.

I am not a fan of calculating by the mile anyway. It doesn't really state anything, and if you are using it to calculate you expenses, then it can screw you up if you don't meet your mileage goals.

My pay for the last three years pulling containers

2004- $136,000
2005- $142,000
2006- $144,000

If you read my ongoing thread I have switched to tankers and I am listing my weekly pay.


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How many miles?

Honestly Rev, I kinda got away from keeping track when I was hauling containers,My truck was paid off and I was home every night(mostly) and I really didn't concern myself with it(right or wrong).If I had to guess I would say around 120,000 or more.

I am much more concerned now since going back out on the road.

Fair enough.

well if 3,000 is too much... there is always u-haul....

Makes perfect sense, made the best money so far in my carreer when I was moving cars. Spent all sorts of time in/on/underneath/climbing/falling off the trailer.

It isn't a matter of you doubting me or not. It's a matter of you saying that my rates don't count, because I am in a specialized field. GMAN likes to do this as well, and I have yet to see any justification for it. My rates are just as real as your rates. When push comes to shove, I have a net income just like you. The O.P. was inquiring as to what the different trades made, depending upon what type of trailer pulled, and what commodity hauled. Since I pull a trailer, and haul commodities, my numbers apply.

You do have an net income like me and i dont think anobody is disputing that but you dont make your money the same way that i make it. Just look at your numbers and you dont need any more explanation in regards to this. 50 something thousand miles on over 180,000$ :shock: dollars i think says it all. You dont make your dough driving like i do even though u drive ofcourse, you make it in that trailer and thats where the difference is. What did it ran you to move that truck on those 50K miles, 20 som. K in benjamins, i mean i dont care how specialized you get except maybe waay-waaay oversized, you cant get to that number. I admire Michaels rate of 1.70-80 per mile and he runs step deck on his own authority which is concidered to be real good and you can beat that by one more time on all miles...Even though you have and drive a truck you dont make it by doing so, you make it on the labor and whatnot more because thats the type of job that you have, its not only trucking like it is with me, its much more to it.
Again, i went through 3 months of slow freight, cheap too but i dont think it had any impact on you because you dont haul freight and you dont allign yourself with shippers/recievers/brokers like i do, your shipper is a house in LA and reciever house in Tampa, i dont think thats what most of us do rev and thats where the difference is...


And could you also elaborate the rates that Steve posted about Atlas charging abour 2$ per mile(if correct) and you way more than that as i think you should too...!