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Fishhook 09-06-2006 04:31 AM

We had one in a Sterling (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/obscene/eck15.gif)It had good power....BUT, parts are $$$$, Sterling dealers are a JOKE, you have to go to Detroit Diesel to get anything fixed.Parts are not stocked.If you do get one, keep an eye on the fuel lines, they rub on the block, causing holes in the lines. The truck we had here ,2 times.Another location 6 times!!( horrible design).We cant give them away.I'm not sure if its the Sterling or the Mercedes part that scares people away.Both, I'm thinkin'.

As far as the Jakes, there is a recall on that( at least the older ones).

uncleal13 09-06-2006 09:31 AM

Well thanks all for your input.
I took possession of my new 06 Century 450 Mercedes, 18 D/O, 3.58, 11R22.5 on 11 August. Have 9,500 miles on it so far.
Took 46,000 Edmonton to Palm Springs = 5.76 US mpg
15,000 Los Angleles to Cornwall, On = 7.45
5,000 Gatineu, QC to Edmonton, AB = 7.32
36,000 Edmonton to Amarillo, TX = 5.96
It's a bit of a dog on the hills, but with the tall gearing I was expecting that. Especially compared to my last truck with the 565hp ISX & 4.10 rears.
I like the engine brake, nice and quiet. To make it work I have to drop a full gear at highway speeds.

Again thanks for your comments.
Al

Bushpilot 09-06-2006 10:37 AM

yes, jacobs uses the exhaust valves as part of the engine braking but not the exhaust itself as mercedes does. thier exhaust brake is strictly from the exhaust. it has a butterfly valve on the back side of the turbo. this is why you have to use higher rpm's to get the maximum braking. It is however alot better on the engine than a jacobs engine brake is.

yoopr 09-06-2006 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by uncleal13
Well thanks all for your input.
I took possession of my new 06 Century 450 Mercedes, 18 D/O, 3.58, 11R22.5 on 11 August. Have 9,500 miles on it so far.
Took 46,000 Edmonton to Palm Springs = 5.76 US mpg
15,000 Los Angleles to Cornwall, On = 7.45
5,000 Gatineu, QC to Edmonton, AB = 7.32
36,000 Edmonton to Amarillo, TX = 5.96
It's a bit of a dog on the hills, but with the tall gearing I was expecting that. Especially compared to my last truck with the 565hp ISX & 4.10 rears.
I like the engine brake, nice and quiet. To make it work I have to drop a full gear at highway speeds.

Again thanks for your comments.
Al

KM's I hope? :P

uncleal13 09-15-2006 01:40 PM

Lbs in the box.

Overloaded 09-15-2006 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bushpilot
yes, jacobs uses the exhaust valves as part of the engine braking but not the exhaust itself as mercedes does. thier exhaust brake is strictly from the exhaust. it has a butterfly valve on the back side of the turbo. this is why you have to use higher rpm's to get the maximum braking. It is however alot better on the engine than a jacobs engine brake is.

Can you explain how a jake brake harms an engine? I can see no possible way it could. The only thing it does is open the exhaust valves.

Windwalker 09-15-2006 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by uncleal13
Well thanks all for your input.
I took possession of my new 06 Century 450 Mercedes, 18 D/O, 3.58, 11R22.5 on 11 August. Have 9,500 miles on it so far.
Took 46,000 Edmonton to Palm Springs = 5.76 US mpg
15,000 Los Angleles to Cornwall, On = 7.45
5,000 Gatineu, QC to Edmonton, AB = 7.32
36,000 Edmonton to Amarillo, TX = 5.96
It's a bit of a dog on the hills, but with the tall gearing I was expecting that. Especially compared to my last truck with the 565hp ISX & 4.10 rears.

Since when is 3:58 tall gears? I've got 3:42, and with 35,000 LBs in the box, from WI to CT, averaged 7.16 mph. With 45,000 in the box, I average about 6.5 mpg. Looking at your mpg, I think I'll stick to my N-14. If I have to down shift, it's generally only 1 gear and keep on climbing.

Rocky... I have a problem with your theory of keeping it above the torque range. When climbing a hill, and keeping the engine above 2,100, what happens when the engine starts to drop rpm? You're going to get well into the torque range before you can really downshift. I know a few of the "hills" in your area. With a good load on, you're going to drop 2 and even 3 gears before you get to the top. Do you let it drop to 2,000, then shift down and let it turn at 2,400?????? Or do you drop the speed in "steps"??? I know my mechanic says I can let it crank up to 3,500, but with this type of engine, I NEVER have it cranking over 2,000. NEVER!!!!


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