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Old 03-22-2011, 02:21 AM
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Tracer, your numbers are flawed some where. Initially you want to gross $23,000 per month running 10,000 miles and at the end you want to gross $28,000 running 4,000 miles. Your fuel costs on 4,000 miles would be 60% lower so your revenue should be proportionately lower.

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Yeah, it doesn't look right. I did that spreadsheet where you combine all your expenses and bills and right now for 10,000 miles it's around $2.30/mi gross. I took $23,000 and divided by 8000 miles to see how much I need per mile to get the same revenue when my mileage is smaller. I forgot about the fuel.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:41 PM
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Tracer, Remember "LESS MILES, MORE MONEY"
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:48 PM
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i hate going there too but shippers from texas are falling over themselves to find drivers that are willing and capable (truck wheelbase, trailer axles!) to go to alberta. here's a load i just looked up on our board:

legal load: 39,000 lbs,
must tarp
miles: 2,200
gross revenue: $7,250
trailer required: 48 flat
That's cheap freight!
Given the current cost of fuel and poor paying freight coming from Western Canada (which turns into a 1,500 mile deadhead) you require substantially more money to go there OR you have to source alternative freight.
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:04 AM
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Tracer, Remember "LESS MILES, MORE MONEY"
That's for an extendable RGN. With my 48 ft step it's "MORE MILES, MORE MONEY"
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:04 AM
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... I need 10,000 miles at $2.31/mile....
I think I asked those before but not sure if I got the answer. What are you figuring your CPM at?
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:36 PM
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I think I asked those before but not sure if I got the answer. What are you figuring your CPM at?
$1.08 without home bills (basic maintenance, insurance, plates, permits, equipment lease etc.). I know I need $3,300 plus cost of fuel per week TOTAL. Just saw a good run for a flat: $1,400 on 300 miles; 5,000 lbs! If I do 3 of these per week, that'd be $4,200 on 1200 miles. Fuel (appr.) - $750. $3,300 (required per week minimum) + $750 fuel = $4,050. So, 3 trips like that a week would work. That's how I evaluate loads now.
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$1.08 without home bills (basic maintenance, insurance, plates, permits, equipment lease etc.)
OK so you said earlier that you need 10,000 miles a month at $2.31 = $23,100/month.
CPM is $1.08 x 10,000 miles = $10,800
$23,100 - $10,800 = $12,300 per month pre tax profit for the business (not including driver pay)?
$147,600 annualized? This is what you need to achieve your goals?

Maybe I don't understand the whole situation and I'm not here to judge anyone's lifestyle choices but how much time do you spend in casinos and at the shoe models?

Seems to me that for a annualized net pretax profit of say....$50,000/50 weeks = $1,000/week

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600 loaded miles x $3/mile = $1,800

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1200 mile round trip x $1.08 = $1,296

$1800 - $1,296 = $504 profit per trip x 2 trips per week = $1,000 per week profit.
I'm no expert on IL rates, but can you not get $3/loaded mile from Chicago to ON, then DH back to Chicago and reload?
Can you not live on $50,000 a year? Stop with the VIP rooms already sheesh!

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Old 03-25-2011, 04:32 AM
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Can someone give examples of when the long spread would be beneficial on a flat?
LTL.

Say you have 48' of deck covered and are scaling at 12,000 + 30,000 + 30,000 = 72,000 and you have 5' of available deck space. With a 121" spread you can plunk another 8,000 on the back.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:43 AM
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Can someone give examples of when the long spread would be beneficial on a flat?
becasue you can scale more. Not true you say? Consider this;

Let's say you tare at 30,000. You can't net 50,000 legally. Theoretically you can but you will never get 12 + 34 + 34 = 80K....not in real life....the shipper will never shift your load around 5 times after you go away and scale and come back to have him move it.

I know you can slide your 5th wheel and play around on the scale (if you can find one) but it's alot easier (and faster, and cheaper) to overload the back of the trailer and get 11 + 33 + 36 = 80K
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:50 AM
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I'm not up to date on my western Canada rules (no point of going there IMO) but they give you credit for a tridem right? Seems to me if they will recognize a 121" spread with a 3rd lift axle in the middle that's as close as you can get to the jack of all trades trailer. Your tare goes up but you can't have it all.
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