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Old 11-23-2006, 03:07 AM
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Default Help figuring out Power Loss?

I have a 350 BC Cummings, and haul logs for a living. My load usually avg 90,000 to 98,000 including Truck and Trailer. My Truck seems to fall flat on its face in the past week when going up any kind of hill.

I know that a 350 will not pull like a 430 etc...., but it just seems to have gotten real bad this past week.

Something else that I just thought of that might have something to do with this, when I first crank it up when cold, it will jump from 5 to 7 rpms until it warms up. It sounds like a car engine with a big cam in it making that loping sound.

When it is empty, it is the same as before, pulling fine.

I replaced the fuel filter after it started doing this, but it has not helped.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:49 AM
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Sounds like a vaccum line or air leak. Those are usually more noticeable at start up.

It also sounds like you may be over-taxing your equipment. Is an upgrade an option?
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Partial collapse of a fuel line. Mine pulled fine empty but like crap when loaded.
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Could it be the injectors?
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Old 11-23-2006, 04:36 PM
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Default Power loss

Papa Rick, I might havesomething for you. Your power loss could be as simple as a gunked up engine from poor fuel quality. The product that I have addresses that problem. Do you get a lot of black smoke, especially at start up? Go to my site (below) and check out the info. 1 ounce treats 10 gallons of fuel and you may have to go though 2 or 3 tanks to see the results. It's best to add 1 ounce per quart of oil too. If you try it and you don't have better results I'll buy it back because I stand by this product.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:05 PM
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If it were me I would have a mechanic hook up to the CPU. It might be the quickest way to either diagnose the problem or eliminate some things.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:20 PM
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Big Cam Cummins shouldn't have a CPU.

No power, hard starting?

dirty fuel filters
bad dose of fuel
air leak on the suction side of injection pump
binding fuel shutoff solinoid

I think you mentioned this was a '85 frightliner used in the woods??? Damaged fuel line???

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Papa Rick, I might havesomething for you. Your power loss could be as simple as a gunked up engine from poor fuel quality. The product that I have addresses that problem. Do you get a lot of black smoke, especially at start up? Go to my site (below) and check out the info. 1 ounce treats 10 gallons of fuel and you may have to go though 2 or 3 tanks to see the results. It's best to add 1 ounce per quart of oil too. If you try it and you don't have better results I'll buy it back because I stand by this product.
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Just remembered something: I had an injector go bad, took it to the shop to get replaced. After they put the injector in, and I cranked it up and was getting ready to leave, I noticed it surging from 550 to 700 rpm, and backed it back up to the door, and asked the mechanic to to come and listen.

He told me that it hadn't worked all of the air out of it yet? I know nothing about this, but said ok, and drove on with it.

It never did stop surging real bad when cold, and still does a little when warmed up.

It puts out so much white smoke when cranking up, (it did not do this before), and takes alot longer to crank when it is cold. I know it will take longer for a older engine, but it takes longer than before.

I called the mechanic and told him about the problem (surging), and he told me that the pump would need to be rebuilt.

I asked him if something could be wrong with the injector that was put in, and he said no.

If you could tell me how to check for an air leak on the suction side of the injection pump, or binding fuel shutoff solenoid, I will check this.

I have replaced the fuel filter, and it did not help the surging.

As for the power loss, it only started this week.

I am really needing advice on this. It does fine empty pulling, but loaded it falls flat on its face.
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Default Snake oil testamonial

This is forPapa Rick,

This is a testamonial some of you may be interested in.
Does Ethos FR work?

This is the very most important question to ask, for if it doesn’t, nothing else matters. Jerry Schnitzius, General Manager of the San Diego area operation of Allied Waste Services came to the meeting and told us of his company’s experience with Ethos FR. Being a trained mechanic, he said there is no such thing as "a miracle in a can," and it wasn’t until Enrique De Vilmorin’s 7th visit that he consented to allow Enrique to put some of that stuff in one of his trucks. And when he finally did, he made him put it in an old truck that was about ready to go to the junkyard. Ethos FR immediately reduced the opacity (blackness of exhaust smoke) from 80 to 20. Opacity is one of the most important tests on diesel engines in California. Still not convinced, they tested it on more trucks for six months (totally at Ethos FR’s expense) before giving the go ahead to put it in all trucks within Jerry’s operations. Since 2000, the average opacity for the entire fleet, is approximately 10, they won the Earth-Day award in the community for reducing pollution and harmful emissions by 500 tons per year.

Most importantly, to a huge publicly traded company, they have saved $34 million in fuel consumption in 6 years. The employees now use Ethos in their personal vehicles and Jerry said, "If it doesn’t work, it’s because you don’t use it." They put Ethos FR in the fuel, crankcases and transmissions of all their trucks. The decision has been made to use Ethos FR by Allied in Texas and soon across the nation by all Allied operations.

Allied Waste Services the second largest waste management company in the U.S. and is currently burning about 2 million gallons of fuel per day. Do you honestly believe they would continue spending millions of dollars per year for a product that doesn’t work?
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