I signed on as an o/o with this company... however it appears and feels more like being a company driver. Recently there has been a "log book" clamp down and audit, it was indicated that there is a company wide DOT audit do to three "roll over’s" at another terminal in another state. We can not use loose leaf log books, we have to use the bound type. The newest issue which came down from the VP is that all logs will be checked for accuracy and falsification, and all entries with be checked foe time, i.e. fuel stops, toll roads, and load stops... everything must match within a half hour, and all logs must be sent into the office daily. If you’re on the road you must fax these into the office. I’ve already had three log book violations and had to make corrections. I like the company and I’m home every night sleeping in my own bed. We haul dedicated Target freight to 23 stores and most of the time deadhead back to the DC and paid for deadhead miles.

I see nothing in the lease about the log books, I don’t run illegal, but do run on the edge. I’ve never seen where load times have to match within a half an hour. I understand toll roads and fuel stops as well as DOT inspections. Just my opinion, and I guess if I don’t like it I could leave. The good thing is that I own my truck.

Thanks

Log book, has nothing to do, with being company driver, lease O/O, or "independant!
It's a federal regulation, and equaly applys to everybody.
Tho, different companys, may have different set of rules, that's just a company policy, and it could be stricter, than federal, but never less.

So, as you rightfully noticed, "love it, or live it"! :P :wink:

You're whining because the company you leased to makes you run legal? :?


Sell your truck now, and turn in your CDL.

My question is this: What are some of the drivers going to do once they do pass the EOBR law? The age of running 2 or 3 log books, 'making it work', driving ahead of your log book, etc are coming to a close.

I'm not saying I run 100% legal 100% of the time. There are times I've made minor adjustments to the log book to make it from point A to point B, but those adjustments were always in the range of 15 minutes.

I have a feeling some drivers will have to go through log REtraining to learn how to actually do it legal.

qualcoms, reciepts with times and BOLs with timestamps will get you in trouble even if you are doing your best to run legal. Honest mistakes can get you cruicified. i dunno how many times i logged with local time instead of my home-terminal time and never realized it....in case of an accident theyll say you falsified your logs-therfore you were in HOS violations and caused the accident.
I dunno if there are prepass records that can be audited/subpoenaed but im sure there are....

Sell your truck now, and turn in your CDL.[/quote]


LMAO :lol:

Your company is now under the DOT microscope with the rollovers. They have been lax and now they have to play catchup with the records and then get them perfect while DOT has them under the microscope. Logging load times is definitely pushing it but its their rule. I think logging fuel within 30 mins to 1 hour is pushing it also, but its their rule. I have survived a few DOT audits and they do look at logs, fuel receipts, toll receipts, roadsides. They lay it all out on a table and make a timeline, if everything looks okay they stop, if it looks suspect, they dig a little deeper. Your company is just trying to protect everyones livelihood, yours included. As an O/O, you are a "carrier" so you need to consider the bigger picture and how every inconvenience affects the whole operation.

If a carrier is found to be in log violation, there could be heavy fines, not only for the carrier but the driver's as well. In addition, a carrier's safety record could be affected. A lower safety record could affect insurance rates and could also limit a carrier on who will allow them to haul their freight. There is much more at stake here than just falsifying a log book.