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brian roberts 05-23-2011 04:21 PM

under the table
 
I have worked under the table for the last 5 years, is otr out of the question for me?:bow:

Orangetxguy 05-23-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498091)
I have worked under the table for the last 5 years, is otr out of the question for me?:bow:

Pretty much.

And....If you ask me......You are foolish to be on the internet posting such information......but that is just my thought.

Kentla93 05-23-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 498092)
Pretty much.

And....If you ask me......You are foolish to be on the internet posting such information......but that is just my thought.

Wonder how he is going to feel when it comes time to collect SSI and there is no money in his account because he worked under the table... The population of our country never ceases to amaze me.. Working under the table to save a few bucks, The IRS can now come back and complete a forensic study of how you have lived for the past five years and WILL come up with their own amount of what you made and then require you to pay taxes, Plus pentalties, plus intrest.. Just blows my mind that ppl think that is smart and they are getting one over on the government.

Best of luck to you..

Timberwolf

strawberryrhubarbpie 05-24-2011 03:40 AM

I would suggest you spend the money for an accredited driving school, then start from the bottom. Start at a company with a trainer, and if they wonder why you catch on so quick just say 'I must be a natural' LOL

brian roberts 05-25-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 498092)
Pretty much.

And....If you ask me......You are foolish to be on the internet posting such information......but that is just my thought.

I did not say I did not pay taxes. The company I worked for was operating under the table. A lot of judgement on here.

Malaki86 05-25-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498091)
I have worked under the table for the last 5 years, is otr out of the question for me?:bow:

You said YOU worked under the table, not that your company does.

Sealord 05-25-2011 05:37 PM

Under the Table
 
And we wonder how illegals become employed here. BOL

Orangetxguy 05-25-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498195)
This is what you said originally; {I have worked under the table for the last 5 years, is otr out of the question for me?}

I did not say I did not pay taxes. The company I worked for was operating under the table. A lot of judgement on here.

Now......Maybe at 54 years old I am just ignorant......but when I see a statement that say's "I worked under the table for the last 5 years", I figured it means just exactly that. I didn't think it meant that your company was working under the table. (In fact......Unless a government official was involved in helping cover it up, I don't see how a company could work for 5 years under the table) Now....the other thing I think about when I hear "Under the table", is that you were paid in cash, and that those payments were made without the appropriate withholding taxes taken out AND that those payments were not declared as income......Hence the entire term....."Working under the table".

Like Timberwolf said.....best of luck to you.

brian roberts 05-26-2011 06:05 PM

You are ignorant if you believe everything as you read it.

GMAN 05-26-2011 07:52 PM

If the company you worked for was a motor carrier and will verify your work experience, then you should be able to find suitable employment. It is easy to check whether a company has authority or not. You can also provide log books to prove experience. The feds require that carriers check at least the past 3 years employment history of new drivers, whether they held a CDL or not. Another way to prove employment is through settlement sheets or pay stubs. In any case, you will need to prove some work experience unless you are willing to go to driving school. You didn't mention whether you worked as a driver or otr, so I am making some assumptions.

freebirdrfd 05-26-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498228)
You are ignorant if you believe everything as you read it.

I guess he told you Stan. :rofl: Smokin:

Malaki86 05-26-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498228)
You are ignorant if you believe everything as you read it.

Who's the more ignorant person? The one who wrote "I've worked under the table blah blah blah", or the one who read what that person wrote?

freebirdrfd 05-26-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 498233)
Who's the more ignorant person? The one who wrote "I've worked under the table blah blah blah", or the one who read what that person wrote?

Umm, :bigthink: The one who reads it?? :smokin:

Malaki86 05-26-2011 09:33 PM

He might as well said that 2+2=4, then argued later that it actually =5. Makes just as much sense. Either that or my IQ is just high enough that I don't understand "idiot".

Orangetxguy 05-26-2011 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 498229)
If the company you worked for was a motor carrier and will verify your work experience, then you should be able to find suitable employment. It is easy to check whether a company has authority or not. You can also provide log books to prove experience. The feds require that carriers check at least the past 3 years employment history of new drivers, whether they held a CDL or not. Another way to prove employment is through settlement sheets or pay stubs. In any case, you will need to prove some work experience unless you are willing to go to driving school. You didn't mention whether you worked as a driver or otr, so I am making some assumptions.


Careful there G.

He was "Working under the table".

I've just learned that I am ignorant for not understanding his exact meaning of that. Or....maybe I was ignorant for thinking that I knew what "working under the table" really means.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Malaki86 05-26-2011 10:18 PM

Hmmm - this is making me ponder:

A person working for a legit company, but not having to pay taxes is called "working under the table".
A person working for a company that's "under the table", and is earning pay they don't pay taxes on is called what?

Doesn't 2 negatives make a positive? If so, would he then be 100% above board?

OMG - this is making my brain hurt...

Malaki86 05-26-2011 10:19 PM

But - let's make it clear:

If he was 'legal', but working for an illegal company (aka, no taxes, dot #, etc), then he has no proof of employment. So, looks for driver school for this brainiac.

One 05-27-2011 12:48 PM

Reguardless of how you got paid, as long as your work history can be verified there will be a carrier willing to hire you. GL

GMAN 05-28-2011 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 498237)
Careful there G.

He was "Working under the table".

I've just learned that I am ignorant for not understanding his exact meaning of that. Or....maybe I was ignorant for thinking that I knew what "working under the table" really means.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I suppose we will need to wait until he comes back and clarifies his statement.

brian roberts 06-07-2011 10:35 PM

you jumped on this like a bunch of vultures. how about this one: Do you float the gears or double clutch? What do the carriers expect when you road test?

Orangetxguy 06-08-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brian roberts (Post 498751)
you jumped on this like a bunch of vultures. how about this one: Do you float the gears or double clutch? What do the carriers expect when you road test?

:bigthink:

Squawk Squawk Squawk!!


:bigthumbsup:


I can't reply as to what a "carrier" expects, by whether I float the gears or double clutch depends entirely on the situation.

All things being equal, I float the gears 99% of the time. But there are times where double clutching has to been done. Of course.......floating when you're dragging a tank is different than floating when you're dragging anything else. Sometimes, if the liquid is running fast, you're gonna skip a couple gears catching up with the surge.........that is when floating is especially useful. But......That's when you're dragging a tank. :lol:

chain binder 06-08-2011 03:17 AM

I used to know a girl who worked under the table. She could wrap her............. never mind.She got paid also.

strawberryrhubarbpie 06-08-2011 06:22 PM

Brian, I float the gears! What do the carriers expect, double clutching? I know how to double clutch up but not down, this is why I have to go to cdl school!

Mackman 06-09-2011 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by strawberryrhubarbpie (Post 498783)
Brian, I float the gears! What do the carriers expect, double clutching? I know how to double clutch up but not down, this is why I have to go to cdl school!

Im the same way. I can not double clutch going down. Been driving for 9 years. I always told them on the road test that i dont use the clutch. It was never a problem. As long as i didnt grind the gears.

Malaki86 06-09-2011 01:37 PM

Every road test I've had, the test person has always told me to drive the truck the way I normally drive, which is floating. As for grinding the gears, you should've been in the truck when I did my road test for Celadon. After 3.5 years in an autoshift, I had damn near forgotten how to change gears at all. When I explained it to him, he said he definitely understood and saw that it was all coming back.

brian roberts 06-11-2011 04:11 PM

double clutch
 
:bow:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 498754)
:bigthink:

Squawk Squawk Squawk!!


:bigthumbsup:


I can't reply as to what a "carrier" expects, by whether I float the gears or double clutch depends entirely on the situation.

All things being equal, I float the gears 99% of the time. But there are times where double clutching has to been done. Of course.......floating when you're dragging a tank is different than floating when you're dragging anything else. Sometimes, if the liquid is running fast, you're gonna skip a couple gears catching up with the surge.........that is when floating is especially useful. But......That's when you're dragging a tank. :lol:


GPC 06-17-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryrhubarbpie (Post 498783)
Brian, I float the gears! What do the carriers expect, double clutching? I know how to double clutch up but not down, this is why I have to go to cdl school!

You do it the exact same way as you up shift.

Let's say you want to go from 10th to 9th. What you do is push in the cluth take truck out of 10th release clutch rev engine up push clutch in and go to 9th release cluth and there you go. If you need to till you get used to it just rev the engine up to wide open befor you push the clutch and go to the next gear. It is always better to go into gear with the rpms droping instead of climbing.

Musicman 07-10-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GPC (Post 499107)
It is always better to go into gear with the rpms droping instead of climbing.

Not to split hairs (or gears), but it's actually better to go into gear when the rpms MATCH, but I understand what you are getting at. I think you meant it's better to not slam into a gear with torque being applied to the engine. That's not floating anyway... that's stupidity.


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