Your least favorite truck and why?
 

Everyone has a difference of opinions of which type of truck they like and why. For instance, I like Volvos the best because of their incredibly sharp turing radius. But which type of truck DON'T you like and why not?

Whether it's because it's not very reliable (it stays in the shop too much), it rides rough or you just don't like the way it looks, why would you not want drive this type of truck?

Guess I get to start:

Freightliner Columbia - rough ride, noisy as hell, cold in the winter, hot in the summer, everything rattling around, the stupid cabinets without doors (fishnet fronts), placement of some of the dash switches (you literally have to lean out of the seat to reach).

With the Columbia's, I just hate them - period. They're good starter trucks because of the price, but I guarantee if I ever buy a truck but can't afford anything other than a Columbia, I'll stay as a company driver.

Volvo's seem to break frequently lots of electrical issues, and heavy. The parts seem to come on the slow boat. Weak Jake's.

Freightliner Columbia and century noisy shaky 04 and newer Detroits have egress issues. I hate the mirrors they shake and rattle. They also ride ROUGH!

KW t200 good overall truck other than wide turning radius, leaky windshield's if not installed perfect, and leaky doors. The door issue isn't a big deal they just need adjusted regularly.

KW t600 or t660 smooth, quiet, comfortable, good turning radius. It would be nice if there was a single bunk option with top cabinets. Armrests that swing back are a must.

International 9200/9400 good overall my favorite sleeper especially with single bunk. I wish sleeper vents were lower instead of at ceiling and more storage above driver would be nice.

Anything aero, is no good, don't look like a truck, give me 379, w900 , t800 , 9900, western star, any day before ugly azz aero freightliners and volvo

I've hated every truck I've driven so far. :)

I'm just checking in to say I predict 1000 posts a day for this thread. lol

I really disliked the International's that I drove with 1 company .. maybe it was because they bought the cheapest ... it had what I call a coffin sleeper ... couldn't pull worth a darn either. ... I wasn't very impressed with the PeterBilt .. the Freightliner had an awesome sleeper and alot of room, but I can honestly say ... the KW was my favorite.

I'm not sure if I should reply to this... :lol: :whistle:
I've never cared for Freightliners. Don't know why. Just something about them. Especially when someone tries to dress one up and make it look like a Pete. Just not right! You can't fix ugly :lol:
I don't like the trucks I drive every night. They only run 60 dag gum miles an hour! :mad: :roll:

Based on looks itself, I think the Coronado is one really nice looking truck. I've never driven one, but I like it's looks. Of course, it's nothing more than a Columbia with a different hood.

Least Favorite Truck and Why
 

Any one. Unpaid for.

Freightliner followed by the Navistar (International)!!!!!

The Freightliner Cascadia!!! Ugly, rough riding, POS and the Columbia which, is the lame version of the Century and yes they are Hecho en Mexico!!! (Made in Mexico)

The Navistar is rough riding not to mention not driver friendly!!!!

I would rather have my truck paid off.
My million mile '03 Pete is decent. Lack of turning radius, poor rear visibility when backing, and narrow cab leaves me wanting my IH9400i back. But I didn't like the rough ride of that truck

The 9400 is a big truck compared to the 9100 mid-roof, dual-bunk I was in. Even with the top bunk folded up, you couldn't sit on the bed without hitting your shoulder/back on the top bunk. With it down, forget it - my 9 year old grandson couldn't sit upright in the bottom bunk.

I did like the old 9900 I drove many, many moons ago.

Out of the ones I've driven, the Freightliner Crapcadia. The interior was tolerable, but the truck wasn't very reliable. The engine couldn't cruise at 57mph without the 8-9 auto shifting every few minutes on minor hills, it ended up in the shop with regen problems, and ,the straw that finally broke the camel's back (and freed me from that piece of garbage, the power steering fluid started leaking out of it.
Granted, the Century's I've driven weren't any better, except they all had Cat's in them.

I dont like anything thats NOT a Mack. The reasons are cuz its NOT a Mack.:thumbsup:

My only OTR experience has been in a 2003 Columbia, detroit w/ 10 spd.

It handled like a boat, swayed and wondered excessively, drinks fly out of the cup holder with the slightest bumps, the heater really sucks when idling in 0 degree weather lol

The detroit engine itself has no balls,

but overall, looks wise, i like it.

Volvo because every Volvo I have ever driven is junk! I have never driven a good Volvo!

I have a solution for the cupholder in the Freightliners:

Get a piece of 3 1/2" PVC pipe (measure it to be sure), cut it to about 3-4" high. It'll fit perfect in the cutout area and you can put your drink in it. If you drink coffee from a mug, cut a slot in it for the handle.

Ironically, Mackman, now that I've driven my first Mack tractor, I have to say I'll drive anything but. I have no idea what model of Mack we have over here at R+L, but everybody warned me not to drive one if I could avoid it. Now I know why.

The truck looked like so many good ideas that just went wrong, it was tragic. The ride was supposed to be comfortable, but it was squishy. The controls were supposed to be friendly, but I still have no idea what the circle with the X through it button was supposed to do (differential lock, maybe?), and it took me forever to find the mirror heat. It was supposed to be quiet, but that just meant I had no idea what the engine was doing, and I kept lugging waaaay down on hills.

The absolute worst thing was the brake pedal. I've driven Peterbilts, Volvos, Freightliners, Kenworths, Internationals, GMCs, and even a Ford or two. They all have the same brake pedal, in the same place, that works the same way. That stupid Mack had a completely different pedal in a different place for some reason, and I don't know how many times I missed it trying to slow down. It's even worse than the stupid oversized foot-shaped Kenworth fuel pedal, which, until now, I thought was the most brain damaged invention in the history of trucking.

I'm glad to be out of that thing in one piece, and I'm going to lose my Mack key. Internationals aren't exactly luxury rides, but at least they put the controls in sensible places, and they're safe to drive for normal humans who don't drive these idiotic Mack things all the time.

I guess you'd be just the opposite, and you'd be a danger to women and children everywhere if we put you in a normal truck. Sorry about that, neighbor. Different strokes and all that...

HAHA.. I thought my wife and I were the only ones to use that term. It felt to me like it was just rushed thorugh production and not put together very well. I don't know how many bolts I had to threadlock because they kept backing out. The batteries also died quick.. or the charging system didn't work well.

I love my Volvo 780 tho. I have the volvo engine and could do without (especially since I keep getting a "Check Engine Fault code popping up randomly and the Volvo guys can't figure out why) but otherwise you can't beat the comfort in this thing.

the mack is no longer a truck ,now it is powered by volvo it is a lorry

Freightwhiner and Intertrashinal are my least favorites.

LOL sorry I'm just now reading this. Let me answer your 1st question.

I still have no idea what the circle with the X through it button was supposed to do (differential lock, maybe?),
It is the engine shut down override. If your buzzer comes on with the red light on the dash if you hold that switch down it will override the auto shutdown for 30sec. to get the truck off to the side of the road etc.

I been around peterbilts, IHs and Macks. out of them all i love my macks. They are good strong trucks. Yes they have went down hill alittle since volvo bought them out. But overall i still think they are a great truck. Your right to each their own i guess. But when it comes to straight trucks Mack is the #1 seller.

BTW since 2003 all Mack cabs are the same on the inside. So the CV, CH,CL etc all use the same cabs. Just different hoods.

2010 Volvo leaks everywhere but only when it rains.
Needs more pull going up and more jake coming down.

that has been passed on to macks by volvo as well ,mack a budget version of a not very good volvo ,pure bred american only way to go.

Well, as of now, y'all are the only others I've known to use that term. I never had the battery problem, but both the Detroit's alternator and the Carrier APU's alternator worked fine. I also didn't have the bolt issue (but then again, bolts don't tend to back that far off in 4 days).
As for the Volvo, one of the Ruan drivers here at DG has had that problem in his Volvo with a D13. Then again, my Cat C-15 has had a Check Engine light on since I got it a year ago. So far, it's performed just like it should.

After spending plenty of days with my foot to the floor, begging to crack 45mph before I have to get into the left lanes and join I-96 westbound, I can't approve this message. Don't even get me started on the constant regen problems, the uncomfortable seats, or the fact that I damned near get tossed out of my seat every time I hit a bump.

That bulldog on the hood is pretty cool though.

The diff lock is a picture of a pair of axles with an X in the middle.

Our trucks shut down after idling for three minutes or so. When the 'idle shutdown' warning comes on, a light appears on the dash with that circle-X crap. We have to step on the gas for a second to keep the truck running. Our day cabs don't have that circle-X button, but we have a couple of sleeper cabs for overnight runs. When the idle shutdown warning comes on in one of those, we can prevent it by pressing that button. I assume we're talking about the same button here (sort of a circular arrow with an X through it). I'm fairly confident that we are talking about the same POS trucks. 2010 models we drive. Low mileage. Well maintained. Absolute garbage.

I don't like Fargo and Dempster because of the design and performance as well.

Any trucks that's not aerodynamic belongs in the Stone Age. Unless you're a company driver and you don't give a darn about your fuel expense, choose a truck with low aero resistance. I am now pretty happy with my paid-for 2004 International 9400. It has lots of power due to the dyno-tuned CAT C15 (550 HP) and I now drive ver-r-r-y slow, thanks to the new 3.58 axle ratio.

I get less then 5MPG and make out just fine. If you have to have an aero truck to make money then you are doing something F-ed up.

I would rather have a large car and loss alittle bit of MPG then ever buy an aero truck.

Let's say we both do 8000 miles a month. You get 5 MPG in your 'large car' and I get 6 MPG in my basic International. At $4/gal price, I get to keep $1,068 MORE than you at the end of the month. To put things into perspective, I can go to the local GM dealer and lease a brand new Cadillac for $700 a month and I will still have spent less money on fuel than you. But hey - your truck does look cooler than mine. I won't argue with that ;)

I don't like Volvo's at all. Mainley because of the inside I just don't care for the dash at all.

I drive a Pete 379 now but, also like Western Star's and Kenworth's. I pull a lowboy so driving an aero truck wouldn't help me much anyhow.

I think he's alluding to the fact that he runs a dump bucket and won't get good fuel mileage even if he had a more aerodynamic truck (not that I consider his Mack Granite to be a 'large car'). Granted, I have still yet to get an aerodynamic truck that got better fuel mileage than my Freightliner Classic. I don't know how that worked...

Seems there is only one concensus here: any truck that isn't paid for is the one that sucks most.
:lol:

I dont think my mack is a large car lol. Just talking. Only macks that i think are large cars are superliners and CHs. I just laugh when people all talk about the aero BS. I guess to each their own.

Here is a mack large car. Just for you tracer. V8 E9 mack motor prob. pumping out around 550hp. Tell that cat to look out. cuz a 20year old truck will walk it LMAO.

YouTube - ‪STOCK SUPERLINER AT BURTON OHIO‬‏

I've been reading that some people hate Freightliners, where do you all think the term "freightshaker" came from, you get shook in the cab while the first six pallets over the drive axles get shook, I also hate the International for the same reason. I prefer Volvo's, the 660 and 670 models, because they are smooth riding, IMHO.