The thing is, in his scenario, the weather advisory was done by noon. Usually in the Northern states, after a bad storm they can get the roads pretty much clear within 12 hours at the latest. He still would have had plenty of time to make the run, even if he waited out the storm.

You're just going to have to deal with it Kevin. Weather is part of the job. If you're going to be late then keep dispatch informed. They've seen it thousands of times, it happens every year. You mentioned empty, I pull empties (plural) in the snow all the time. I pull doubles with a single screw tractor. I dont know where your from or where you live but it's just part of the job around here. Why do you keep arguing with guys who have way more experience then you do? Try learning from them instead.

no no....when i say "next evening" i mean THAT evening. Seeing how i am talking from the standpoint of it being 'noon'.

but to answer Snowman, you bet, anything anybody does that they are unfimiliar with THAT CAN FLIPPIN KILL YOU, better damn well make you scared. I come from Iowa. Lived there 34 out of 35 years of my life, so driving in snow isnt a new adventure. Driving a vehicle you have limited experience in, and are not sure about how exactly it will react/handle in snow and ice, better make you a little scared. Now I know enough not to go flying down the road like some of you super truckers would at 60 miles an hour (seeing how you do 75 in the pouring rain), and I would contact my DM before accepting such a load and tell him right off the bat, that I will be late due to weather, and will that be ok. if he says it will be fine, he first better do it over the QC so i have a record of it on the record. THEN i will accept said load.

And actually this 'weather system' was a ***** cat. it is 0630, and there is barely 3-4in of snow/sleet on the ground. North Chicago might have been hit harder, but where i sit, really is nothing. Oh, and i have already driven in winter conditions. Hardly enough to give me any sort of experience....

"It's "snow" use, Snowman!! KevinO already knows too much to learn anything!!

I think his operating mentor was "SteveBooth", while studying diplomacy and tact under his good buddy "Cretedrverl" !!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Because when i do ask a question or look for advice, all i get is called stupid or given additude anyways, so why bother? I might actually be open to their opinion if they show a little tact. Not going to take Bill Shatner from anybody.

you know, as i was coming up 65 out of KY and thru IN, i heard on two occasions these 'super tuff guy truckers' getting all upset and some joker just busting their balls for kicks. And both of them said something like, "i'm driving a white Peter with an MT flatbed, let me pull off on the shoulder and you can say that to my face!"

LOL....are you kidding me?? i had to laugh at that. then when it went on for like 5-10 minutes, and you can hear other drivers trying to get on the CB asking for help with directions, or something, i finally got on and said, "...can the both of you just shut the F up??"

You sure gotta love those CB tuff guys......that wasnt you, was it, Snowman? ;-)

Don't be so defensive all the time. You are the one putting up a tuff guy image. Its OK to be new. And ball busting comes with being new. And if you are going to let strangers on a CB rattle you then you will have a long miserable career. Because just like the weather, CB Rambos are part of the job too. Just relax, do what you can do safely, and learn as you go. After a year you may look back at some of your posts and laugh at yourself as we are doing now. If you really want to learn from this board there is alot of good info but if all you want to do is tell us how much you already know then you probably wont get very far.

467 miles from Chicago to Omaha is an 8 1/2 hour drive minimum, given perfect conditions and no traffic. I seriously doubt that Swift is giving you that tight of a delivery window.

You are never going to learn snow and ice driving if you are always turning down loads that put you in it.

So you turn down a load due to weather, and the weather doesn't come.:thumbsup:

I haven't seen anyone call you stupid. As far as attitude, if you think you are getting attitude here, trucking isn't the place for you.

Here's an idea. Turn the CB off.

No, but i have gotten loads that far, with a drop the next day, but i still get them there that night.



I've drivin in a little bit of snow. I actually took a load to Morris, Illinois just after the big storm. drove I-355/I-55 to I-80, and it wasnt that bad, just wet. But then again we didnt get no 10 inches of snow and ice like they forecast. What you FAIL to understand (and i dont know if you 'overlook' this just for the sake of argument or what) is that i said accepting a load into an area where they KNOW the storm is coming. Kinda like that storm in Chicago area. Hmmmm....sure it was forecast a day in advance, but a storm that big the kinda know what it is going to do, yeah? Now, had i been south, and got that same load 12-24hrs later, and they expeted me to deliver it smack dab in the middle while the storm was going on, you're damned right i would turn it down. I aint stupid. Get a service failure because i knowingly take a load headed into severe weather, and then i have to pull over because of bad weather? sure ... ok.



see above. also ill check to see if the chance of severe weather is 100% or 10%. ill take the 10% anyday.



when i hear 'that isnt smart'...that is the same thing as 'stupid'. pointing out something that might be obvious for YOU, dont mean it is so obvious for ME. Inexperience dont automaticly make someone stupid....just ignorant for the time being. I do think there is alot of attitude around here. i'm a nice guy till someone starts giving me theirs....then you will see mine. not going to be some sissy and just let someone walk all over me. Whether it be here or in a truck stop. dont care who you are.....



I usually end up doing that when it gets so bad. But then had it been off, i would have not known about the bridge over the Ohio river in Ohio that was closed due to repair...think it was I-471e. Or if i left it off, i would not have known about serious traffic tie-up on i-65 interchange to get on I-94w yesterday. Kinda handy to have it on, and pretty nice when idiots dont get on and talk about what they did every night for the last week.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I spoke to a Trooper the other day and asked why the interstates like I80 get closed west of Illinois but not in the Midwest (Ill, Wis, Ind., Ohio, MI) and the Trooper said that they usually end up closing themselves with jackknives and accidents :eek2:

It is going to be a loooong winter.