. . and grab 4 or 5 gears everytime you move, including reverse . .

Thank you hobo and others... but i will give it a try next time i have to have 90 degree back!!

OK, tonight I paid a little more attention on how I set up for a 90. I pull up across the frt of the trucks at the dock with about 8-10' of room(to my left) and with my doors about 1 trailer space past the hole, reverse and cut the wheel and just steer the trailer in BUT watch out for the right front corner of you trailer and of course your front bumper. I hit the same dock every night so I don't even thick about it.

just a side note, if they told me to pick a dock between the white and blue trailers in the middle of the pic I swear it would take me 3 pull ups to get it in there, but if they told me to put it in the dock between the white trailer and the stairs (bottom of pic) I would prolly nail it first shot. funny how that works

Coming from a real newbie...

Do you think, Got Mud, it is because there is more there to judge your space with. The other land marks to help guide?

Maybe I've just been lucky, but in the year I've been driving, I have NEVER, EVER had to do a real 90 degree back. Oh, I don't think I've done too many true 45s, either...normally it's some variant of the two, depending on what space is available to use at the time...

I see guys doing 90s at the truck stops all the time, for no good reason, other than to put themselves at a HUGE disadvantage. If there's room to do a 90, most often you have room ahead and to the right to bring the whole thing out a bit, and make the back more 45-ish. This gives you more room, minimizes the area behind the blind side of your trailer, and gives you the best shot at putting it in the hole WITHOUT hitting anything.

yup it is

That's a driver from Australia, so it's not blindside.

There is a very good tip in that video.

The driver starts by turning away from the row being backed into, the sharply toward it right before he stops. This sets up the tractor to already be pointed in the correct direction to direct the trailer into the slot. After that it's all minor adjustments.

i know when i arrive at a tough stop with a ****ed up dock location, i spend a minute to analys the situation. the more calm i stay the better it goes. sometimes in nyc when i need to blinside or back into a hole off a main street no one will stop and allow me to do it. and no one will stop traffic for me. so i rush and i get paniced and usually make it worse and i miss the hole and look like a ****. people blow horns and get pissed. just try to stay calm. the more u do it the more confidence ull get. the harder stops are good because theyll allow u to improve on everything else

I agree, having seen one driver do a 90. It was impressive...but why do it? Take a minute to see, the approach, what is in you way, what to avoid. Keeping "close" to things you can see {in your mirrors}, can you make the maneuver? Maybe slide your tandems up short to help the pivoting, just be careful not to "tail" something.