What type of drivers make the most CPM or hourly
ok here goes a completly newbie question......
out of all the different types of cargo or types ,hazardous materials, different certificates etc.... what type of drivers make the most $ and how do you get to achieve that type of money$ |
GOOD ONE'S make the most:lol:
for someone with limted exp. you can get your Haz Mat and pull a tank or go food grade and pull a tank others on here can guide you on that just do a search. Van is the easist to get into but also pays less (usaully) some flats will pay more but there seems to be a lot of if's there. |
Any time you get into specialized freight, rates tend to be a little higher. Hazmat doesn't usually pay any more than non-hazardous freight unless you get into something such as munitions or radioactive cargo. Vans are usually on the lower end of the pay grade, but not always. Flats tend to pay more than vans. Most people start pulling vans and then get into more specialized freight once they gain some experience. Tankers will likely pay more than vans. Some companies offer additional pay for helping unload sometimes. Additional pay can also be made with multiple stops, tarp pay, etc., Find something you enjoy and go for it. I would not go with something only for the pay. You need to enjoy what you do.
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Hold please. A local driver will with you shortly to answer your questions.
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Depends entirely on how much you value your own time. On average, I work 50 hours per week. That is from the time I card in, until I card out. No fancy logging, no freebies, no overnights. Excellent benefits, paid vacation, personal, sick time. Safety bonuses. (that are actually paid) New equipment. I am relatively new to this game. For 2007, my third year of driving, I made a couple of hundred shy of $60,000. "I will now transfer you back to an OTR driver. One will be on the line shortly." |
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I was wondering what type of Company do you work for? what do you haul? |
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Those trucks that move special govt stuff around at night make the most.
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The all black semis with the matching helicopters flying over head...oh yeah, Men In Black is real....
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Experienced ones.
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There's a turnpike doubles run that opened up at my terminal. It's hauling two 48' trailers terminal-to-terminal on the pike. The guy who's retiring made $110,000 last year. 4 weeks paid vacation and holidays, Teamster pension & 401k, health bennies with $0 co-pays, and no truck payment.
But if you want to live in a truck for $50k or less and work round the clock then go for it. Tons of such jobs available. |
You can't say definitively that local pays more than otr, nor can you say that otr always pays more than local. It depends on where you run, what you haul and the company. At least one poster mentioned that he isn't making nearly as much working local as he did otr. He is currently thinking about buying his own truck and going otr. Some claim they are getting rich running local. Some of us do pretty well doing OTR. I have looked at local, but everything that I have looked at would require me to take a pay cut from otr. There are others on this board who would probably also have to take a pay cut to come off the road and run local. If you have limited experience you may do as well or possibly a little better local than otr. A good otr driver has the potential to earn more than a local driver. I have known of a few otr drivers who earn more than $100,000/year. These are NOT the norm and not likely pulling a box around. I don't know of ANY local drivers who will top $100,000/year. If you want to earn the bigger paychecks, you will need to find a niche' or get into more specialized hauling, such as car hauling, heavy haul, over-sized or some other area of hauling. You will not start out earning this much money no matter who you work for or what you haul. It takes time to learn your profession and to hone your skills.
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NAME that LTL Company. Provide a valid manger's name, provide a valid telephone number and a valid City, State and street address! Otherwise...crawl into a hole and drag dirt in behind you. |
Should I waste my time getting TDG transportation of dangerous good certification and H2S awarness? to possibly increase my pay? or is it not worth it? what other type of certifications or tickets or training can I get to help me increase my pay besides experience
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The general rule is the bigger and uglier the freight is, the more it pays.
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There are no short cuts to earning top pay in this industry. Experience is usually the best way to increase your pay. Learn all that you can from each task assigned to you. Getting a hazmat endorsement might help you get on with some carriers, but won't necessarily mean more money in your pocket. It may get you the job, but not additional pay. Most carriers will pay experienced drivers more than new ones. As you hone your skills you will increase your value to a carrier. If you want to pull tankers around, you might make more money than pulling a van. You will need a tanker endorsement on your license. If I were starting out I would probably get all the endorsements so that I had more options. You could also pull flats. Although more physically demanding, you would probably have an opportunity to earn more money. Car hauling usually requires a couple of years driving experience, although there are some who may be more flexible. There are few reputable carriers who will allow an inexperienced driver to haul cars around. Another way to help you get the better jobs and pay is to stick with your employer for at least a year or two. |
Snowman......I am simply fed-up with that mouth-piece belittling men and women who do the best they can, with what is available to them.
Union jobs may pay well. But he never acknowledges that one pitfall you did acknowledge...which is "Low-man on the totem-pole sits". The junior driver's at an LTL company starve, due to the union work rules. My numbers are too low. Part of that is the economy. Part of that is truck repairs. If I weren't waiting on mechanics to do the work (I'm not a mechanic, and pulling the stuff I do, I'm not gonna play mechanic) that the truck needs, I would be closer to what Mike3 makes. This turn through the shop, I had to get the front A/C fan in the dash replaced, some other electrical issues dealt with, as well as the overhead run, along with jakeheads adjusted.. After having 3 alignments done in the last few months, 3 tires are cupping bad on my drivers. Finding the cause was on my list of repairs. Just before they gave the truck back to me, they got a suggestion from Volvo in VA, and jacked the truck up to test the bearings in the drive axles. Found two that are bad. So I sit and wait some more. The mechanics all evacuated from the storm that didn't come here. All total, I have 3 months of down time, due to no loads and truck repairs. I also took a 3 week vacation..but that I look at as "By choice" down time. So when you look at my numbers...you have to take into consideration the no work days. That is one reason I have remained leased where I am...I took a look at the "Repair" time, and cooled my jets on the $$$ issues. If the truck was up and running, and I was still sitting..then I would have a valid "Get out" reason. When LBJ/CFM spouts off about how great the money is doing LTL, he never mentions the fact that low man makes far less $$$ than even the mid level people. |
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I called Old Dominon here in Fontana once and they said I would be low man on the pole but might be able to work loading trailers while waiting for a route to open.
I turned them down, at my age it wasnt what I wanted to do in life. |
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Well I have changed my plans and I am now moving out of CA and heading East to Arkansas. I start with a new company OTR on Saturday and will stay with them for a year or two and then pull the plug for good.
Then it will be just me and a bass boat. :) |
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Sure it sucks being low man just like it does in any organization that respects seniority. Do Airmen and PFC's get royal treatment in the military? They sure didn't when I was in the Air Force. OTR has no respect for seniority. At my last outfit, they were giving out brand new trucks to newhires while guys with many years with the company were riding around in 5-year old rigs. Seniority is king in LTL...as it should be. |
Some carriers do reward their drivers with new trucks and higher pay. I know of a couple who have had some of their senior drivers pick out the truck of their choice. That doesn't happen at all carriers, but these guys had been with their carriers for a number of years, kept their noses clean and done an outstanding job. You cannot judge all carriers the same. Companies are as different as people. While there are many similarities, they are different. I know of a couple of carriers that I worked some years ago that treated their drivers with disdain. I know of another that treated me extremely well. If I ever decided to take a company job again, I would call them before any other carrier.
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If you were to annualise your repair expenses so far, would a monthly payment on a new truck have cost you less than it did to fix your truck ( including the cost of downtime ) ? I hope you realise that I'm not trying to be a smart-ass with this question...I'm genuinely interested in knowing. |
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The era of the independent trucker is coming to an end. Fuel costs, insurance costs, maintenance costs, etc are killing them off in droves. |
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It isn't just the small carriers that are having problems. It is industry wide. The independent has a much greater chance of making it through these tough times than the owner operator who is leased to carriers. The independents and small carriers haul something like 80% of the freight in this country. Some will fail, but not all of us will go out of business. It is about as likely you will see more of the mid sized carriers and even one or two of the large ones who will fail. Sometimes the size of a company can work against it, especially in difficult times. Large companies, regardless of industry, tend to respond slowly to changes. Independents and smaller companies can respond quickly to met rapidly changing market conditions. The small business is the backbone of this country. |
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