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Whammo 05-10-2008 12:51 AM

O/O or Company Driver?
 
Could a few of you fellas elaborate on the lease scams and why they are considered scams?

Is it simply the lack of freight? Or is now just a bad time to do it?

Please explain in terms a newbie would understand.

all18wheels 05-10-2008 01:10 AM

lease=this place sucks, freight is slow, i quit!! aawwww you cant you leased the truck and payments are due.

company driver=this place sucks, freight is slow, i quit!! SEEYA

Double R 05-10-2008 01:25 AM

Re: O/O or Company Driver?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whammo
Could a few of you fellas elaborate on the lease scams and why they are considered scams?

Is it simply the lack of freight? Or is now just a bad time to do it?

Please explain in terms a newbie would understand.

Rent-A-Truck

carlos64030 05-10-2008 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all18wheels
lease=this place sucks, freight is slow, i quit!! aawwww you cant you leased the truck and payments are due.

company driver=this place sucks, freight is slow, i quit!! SEEYA


I laughed.

Uturn2001 05-10-2008 02:34 AM

Here are the problems with most lease purchase deals:

1. Many are actually just leases. You do not own the truck after the last payment is due.

2. You often end up paying 50-100% more for the truck than you could have bought it for through regular financing methods, even with bad credit.

3. If you do not make enough to live on you usually can not take the truck with you to a better company.

4. If you terminate the lease early you are often hit with all types of extra fees that at the least will eat up your maintenance fund and last pay settlement.

5. Many times you have to have your truck serviced at the company's specified location(s).

6. The company who you are buying the truck from is the same company who really controls your paycheck. They can all too easily have you only run enough miles to pay for the truck, fuel, insurance etc and nothing more, or even have you run fewer miles than that to quickly force you to turn the truck in so they can lease it to someone else. In a company lease or lease purchase the truck ALWAYS gets paid first.

7. With many L./P's all you really end up being is a company driver who is paying the company for the privileged of driving their truck. With many of the rules they place into the L/P agreement you just end up with all of the headaches of being an O/O with few or none of the potential rewards.

Whammo 05-10-2008 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Here are the problems with most lease purchase deals:

1. Many are actually just leases. You do not own the truck after the last payment is due.

2. You often end up paying 50-100% more for the truck than you could have bought it for through regular financing methods, even with bad credit.

3. If you do not make enough to live on you usually can not take the truck with you to a better company.

4. If you terminate the lease early you are often hit with all types of extra fees that at the least will eat up your maintenance fund and last pay settlement.

5. Many times you have to have your truck serviced at the company's specified location(s).

6. The company who you are buying the truck from is the same company who really controls your paycheck. They can all too easily have you only run enough miles to pay for the truck, fuel, insurance etc and nothing more, or even have you run fewer miles than that to quickly force you to turn the truck in so they can lease it to someone else. In a company lease or lease purchase the truck ALWAYS gets paid first.

7. With many L./P's all you really end up being is a company driver who is paying the company for the privileged of driving their truck. With many of the rules they place into the L/P agreement you just end up with all of the headaches of being an O/O with few or none of the potential rewards.

I see. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to answer in so much detail :)

How about o/o in general? Would I be correct in surmising that now is a bad time to take out a loan on a truck?

BigDiesel 05-10-2008 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whammo

I see. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to answer in so much detail :)

How about o/o in general? Would I be correct in surmising that now is a bad time to take out a loan on a truck?

Take a look at CR England's lease purchase program, with your abilities you should prosper.... But you should learn how to use a logbook first.... :lol:

Jimbpard 05-10-2008 05:46 AM

Lease purchase = Company driver with all the costs of an Owner Operator.

Good Deal huh!!

Jimbpard 05-10-2008 05:53 AM

Lease purchase = Company driver with all the costs of an Owner Operator.

Good Deal huh!!

Uturn2001 05-10-2008 06:25 AM

Quote:

How about o/o in general? Would I be correct in surmising that now is a bad time to take out a loan on a truck?
That depends on if you can get the freight at the pay needed to be successful. If it were me however I would wait for at least a year and see if things settle down before even considering buying a truck.


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