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BigWheels 04-23-2008 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by BigWheels

Originally Posted by headborg
...I'm beginning to believe that "churning" works....

I'm a firm believer in job longevity. Frequent job hopping gets you into trouble.

I'm also a firm believer in that large carriers--to a certain degree--count on a churn and burn approach. In the long run, it helps them defray costs (despite what they may say).


I probably used the word-- incorrectly-- or ignorant of it's exact definition...sorry.

yes... but please define your definition of "frequent"...

I'm just "burnt out"-- been 'burnt out' for years... started driving OTR at 23? now 37 drove the best years of my YOUTH away... seen changes...and changes..and seen probably every "trick" or "lie" in the dispatcher handbook.... seen companies with all kinds of new and innovated ways of operating...reduce costs... increase productivity(there profit)--seen em go out of business..
I'm just tired of having to "scratch" and "claw"-- cry, threaten to quit, piss & moan--- just to get the miles I was promised to begin with... and they all do the same thing... "throw the dog a bone"-- give the baby a passifier to quiet him down... then in a couple weeks after he's back in his comfort zone--- start gradually returning to normal b.s.

Nah...I think you're definition is probably dead on! Frequent for me is switching jobs every 6-12 months (like clockwork). Some/many of us have experienced signing on board with a carrier and after 6-months decided it wasn't a good fit. Off we go learning from our experience and hopefully not repeating it. If we keep on repeating it...well then maybe an OTR driving career ain't in the cards.

While it isn't any picnic being on the owner/managing side of the transportation business, your story is all to common amongst drivers today. Drivers are burned out and burning up at the treatment they are receiving by some of the carriers. And when freight is either typically slow--seasonally or economically (or both)--everything gets worse. Too many drivers chasing too little freight yields more frustration.

Does your carrier have some sort of seniority ranking where longevity translates into more miles (as long as the freight is available)? If not, perhaps it's time to start looking into other carriers...which means starting from scatch one more time....

honestashol 05-04-2008 03:06 PM

And for noobs?
 
Can anyone explain how this affects someone with no driving experience? I've had 6 jobs in 5 years and was fired each time. How would recruiters look at that?

Evinrude 05-04-2008 09:44 PM

Re: And for noobs?
 

Originally Posted by honestashol
Can anyone explain how this affects someone with no driving experience? I've had 6 jobs in 5 years and was fired each time. How would recruiters look at that?


its trucking...they recruit from prison, the homeless anybody they can get there hands on. Your probably a shoe in for a job.

Ridge Runner 05-05-2008 01:41 AM

Re: And for noobs?
 

Originally Posted by honestashol
Can anyone explain how this affects someone with no driving experience? I've had 6 jobs in 5 years and was fired each time. How would recruiters look at that?

That might depend on what you were fired for. :shock:

honestashol 05-07-2008 03:23 AM

Re: And for noobs?
 
That might depend on what you were fired for. :shock:[/quote]

No theft, no fighting, no lates/absences, just wasn't what the owners wanted. I was fired in Winston for not working enough. I was fired in Kannapolis for working too much. I was fired in Greensboro because I couldn't get rid of the hookers and drug dealers. And I was fired in Hickory because "I wasn't a good fit."

All were intangible cases of not meeting expectations. None are listed as re-hirable.

Twilight Flyer 05-07-2008 04:10 AM


its trucking...they recruit from prison, the homeless anybody they can get there hands on. Your probably a shoe in for a job.
And yet you're in trucking to?

Imagine that.

:roll:

Twilight Flyer 05-07-2008 04:12 AM


No theft, no fighting, no lates/absences, just wasn't what the owners wanted. I was fired in Winston for not working enough. I was fired in Kannapolis for working too much. I was fired in Greensboro because I couldn't get rid of the hookers and drug dealers. And I was fired in Hickory because "I wasn't a good fit."

All were intangible cases of not meeting expectations. None are listed as re-hirable.
Driving or not, that's going to be a pretty tough hurdle for any company to overcome.

choperbob 05-08-2008 11:17 AM

sometimes drivers go from one aspect of this industry to another. ie. flat bedding to bed bugging to refeer to dry van to bull hauling all within 3-5 year. seems to me important that the first year is with 1 company before job hunting. there are so many aspects of trucking that it sometimes takes a while to find a home.

honestashol 05-14-2008 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Driving or not, that's going to be a pretty tough hurdle for any company to overcome.

Tell me about it. I can sell myself in any interview and of course my resume looks a lot better than the truth.

I read on an older thread that a ten year job history for Homeland Security is required when switching driving jobs, but no clear answers were ever given. Is that only a ten year history of driving jobs? There's no way I'd give the Feds my fake resume, but if the truth will keep me from working, what options would I have?

Thanks

Twilight Flyer 05-15-2008 01:21 AM

A 10 year work history on file and filled out by hand, with all unemployment/self employment gaps of 3 months or more documented and verified, is a D.O.T. requirement for any truck driving job. Now, I'm sure some of the smaller outfits don't get too serious about that, but any of the major ones will. D.O.T. audits are very intense and they look for stuff like that.


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