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kc0iv 02-10-2008 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog
A REPUTABLE drug screening place, has you wash your hands, empty your pockets and pee in the jar and immediately hand it to them, you then watch them split the sample, put the temp reader on it, seal it in a bag with your name on it and then you get a copy of the form and you leave, they will not ask if you take any prescriptions, IF it comes back positive, they will contact you and then you will be able to show if you have a prescription for whatever you tested positive for. this is how it is supposed to be done for truck drivers.
I think Steves friend works at a clinic just testing the general population

Check 40.61- 40.73 at http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc on how a D.O.T. test is conducted.

Also 40.191-40.209 in respect to Problems in Drug Tests

One other point. 40.85 addresses what drug can and can not be tested for.


kc0iv

Kurbski 02-10-2008 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by kc0iv

Originally Posted by Fredog
A REPUTABLE drug screening place, has you wash your hands, empty your pockets and pee in the jar and immediately hand it to them, you then watch them split the sample, put the temp reader on it, seal it in a bag with your name on it and then you get a copy of the form and you leave, they will not ask if you take any prescriptions, IF it comes back positive, they will contact you and then you will be able to show if you have a prescription for whatever you tested positive for. this is how it is supposed to be done for truck drivers.
I think Steves friend works at a clinic just testing the general population

Check 40.61- 40.73 at http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc on how a D.O.T. test is conducted.

Also 40.191-40.209 in respect to Problems in Drug Tests

One other point. 40.85 addresses what drug can and can not be tested for.


kc0iv

If somebody attempts to alter a sample, Why don't they just take a hair sample. I have read in here a while back about companies testing hair.
Why don't they just do that instead? Since it's a requirement and safety issue. especially if someone smells like bleach ?

Kurbski 02-10-2008 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Kurbski

Originally Posted by kc0iv

Originally Posted by Fredog
A REPUTABLE drug screening place, has you wash your hands, empty your pockets and pee in the jar and immediately hand it to them, you then watch them split the sample, put the temp reader on it, seal it in a bag with your name on it and then you get a copy of the form and you leave, they will not ask if you take any prescriptions, IF it comes back positive, they will contact you and then you will be able to show if you have a prescription for whatever you tested positive for. this is how it is supposed to be done for truck drivers.
I think Steves friend works at a clinic just testing the general population

Check 40.61- 40.73 at http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc on how a D.O.T. test is conducted.

Also 40.191-40.209 in respect to Problems in Drug Tests

One other point. 40.85 addresses what drug can and can not be tested for.


kc0iv

If somebody attempts to alter a sample, Why don't they just take a hair sample. I have read in here a while back about companies testing hair.
Why don't they just do that instead? Since it's a requirement and safety issue. especially if someone smells like bleach ?

Disregard. I just found this: (b) As an employer who receives a verified adulterated or substituted drug test result, you must consider this a refusal to test and immediately remove the employee involved from performing safety-sensitive functions. You must take this action on receiving the initial report of the verified adulterated or substituted test result. Do not wait to receive the written report or the result of a split specimen test.

Skywalker 02-10-2008 03:21 AM

The principal reason that hair testing or blood testing is not done is "cost".

Fredog 02-10-2008 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Malaki86

Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Originally Posted by Malaki86

No - he asked for: drivers license, DOT medical card, log book, permit book and latest DOT drug screen.

Hmmm, thats an interesting item....being asked for the "latest DOT drug screen".... Odd, but as many times as I have been through "Level 1's", I have yet to be asked for anything relate to a "drug screening". The only item that a driver gets from the drug screening is the form that is filled out that proves he or she completed it with a control #, but the driver, unless he or she is an O/O with their own authority never receives directly the results.
There is no card issued, or anything else.....beyond the absence of a message or phone call from Safety or management that says: "We need to talk"....

dot card IS your latest drug screen, you cant get it without one, i am also curious, where did you get a drug screen card?

No - the DOT medical card is not your drug screen. You can go to a new driving job without having to get a new medical card, but you do have to have a new drug screen. The same goes for random drug screens. You don't get a new medical card for it.

The drug screen is a full size sheet of paper stating where it was done, when, by who, etc etc.

and is NOT required to be carried with you, you dont get a new medical card with every drug screen,but you cant get a medical card without a drug screen, the only things you are required to have are. drivers license, medical card. permits, log book tractor and trailer registration. and bill of lading if you are loaded. or you last hauled hazmat and have not yet washed out

02-10-2008 05:08 AM

No drug screen for me in NH to get a medical card. I don't think that is true unless you can post a rule that says so. Drug screening is up to the employer.

mbadriver 02-10-2008 05:16 AM

You are full of crap. If you have a legitimate medical reason the results are reported as NEGATIVE.

Review by the Medical Review Officer (MRO)
Upon receipt of the test result from the laboratory, the MRO will:
• Review paperwork for accuracy.
• Report a negative result to the Designated Employer Representative (DER);
If the result is positive, conduct an interview with you to determine if there is
a legitimate medical reason for the result. If a legitimate medical reason is
established, the MRO will report the result to the DER as negative
.
If not, the
MRO will report the result to the DER as positive.


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Originally Posted by SteveBooth
You can take all the bottles and paperwork you want with you to the drug screener. THEY DON'T CARE. Your test will still indicate that you failed without any mention of your prescription. It is up to the company who is hiring you to determine what they want to do. They will most likely send you for another test when your better.

It is NOT up to the drug testing company to make ANY determinations AT ALL.


02-10-2008 05:57 AM

I have my own authority, I don't report to anyone. No drug test required for my CDL or job.

Fredog 02-10-2008 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by SteveBooth
I have my own authority, I don't report to anyone. No drug test required for my CDL or job.

you are running illegal then
The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s alcohol and drug testing rules apply to every person and to all employers of such persons who operate a commercial motor vehicle in commerce in any state, and is subject to: (1) the commercial driver’s license requirements of 49 CFR Part 383; (2) the Licencia Federal de Conductor (Mexico) requirements; or (3) the commercial driver’s license requirements of the Canadian Nat

02-10-2008 06:28 AM

Please list the full regulation.

The state of NH does not require you to have a copy of your drug test to get your license. Since I don't have a boss I don't have to have one to get hired. I do belong to a random drug testing program but there isn't anyone who looks at the results except ME.

Answer me this then. Who is the actual person who requests the drug report when getting your CDL?????


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