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Zen Road Warrior 11-12-2007 03:53 AM

wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question
 
went into wyoming or was it utah (sometimes it all just runs together) the other day...i was a little confused on the scale/park/permit process.

first i scaled, no problem, got the light but then there was a place to park and a permit check. was i supposed to park and go in with the state permit?

i scaled and left but not sure if that was the right thing to do.

is anyone familiar with this point of entry?

thanks

thebaldeagle655 11-12-2007 04:34 AM

My experience in Wyoming is that they do scale you and then want you to come in with your permits. They log in the id number and send you on the way. I had to do this a few times when I got the new truck before I got Prepass, haven't had to go into a Wyoming scale since.

Uturn2001 11-12-2007 05:06 AM

If you are delivering in Wyoming then you are required to stop. Otherwise if you get a green light after scaling out then just go on. If they are wanting you to come in they will give you a red light and tell you what they want you to do.

BigDiesel 11-12-2007 05:07 AM

Re: wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question
 

Originally Posted by Zen Road Warrior
went into wyoming or was it utah (sometimes it all just runs together) the other day...i was a little confused on the scale/park/permit process.

first i scaled, no problem, got the light but then there was a place to park and a permit check. was i supposed to park and go in with the state permit?

i scaled and left but not sure if that was the right thing to do.

is anyone familiar with this point of entry?

thanks

You are required to go in and declare your load..... Wyoming has a long memory for drivers who do not do this. Expect a citation next time.

Uturn2001 11-12-2007 06:14 AM

A good rule of thumb in any state, when it doubt, stop and check it out.

There have been times when I have gotten a bit confused at some of those weigh stations and ended up parking and going in to talk with the scale master. Most of the time we end up having a good chuckle and I learned something new. Never did have one get upset when I went inside and said:

"I was not sure if I needed to stop and come in so I thought I would play it safe."

Rockee 11-12-2007 08:38 AM

Re: wyoming/ utah point of entry scale question
 

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
You are required to go in and declare your load..... Wyoming has a long memory for drivers who do not do this. Expect a citation next time.

You sure about that? Back when, I used to go through Wyoming quite regular and never had to go in and declare a load. My thinking is green means go unless there is some signs or something stating otherwise

Uturn2001 11-12-2007 08:51 AM

You are only required to go in if you are making a delivery within the state of Wyoming, unless they have changed it in the last 2 years. If you are just passing through you only have to stop and go in if told to do so.

BigDiesel 11-12-2007 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Uturn2001
You are only required to go in if you are making a delivery within the state of Wyoming, unless they have changed it in the last 2 years. If you are just passing through you only have to stop and go in if told to do so.

Wrong again....
:roll:

Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Wyoming:

Section 1. W.S. 11-24-108(c), 18-6-306,
31-3-102(b)(iii), 31-18-301(c) and (d) and 31-18-805(c) are
amended to read:

11-24-108. Stock at large or picketed on public
highways; penalties for violations; impoundment and
disposition; fees; proceeds from sale thereof; removal of
dead or injured animals.

(c) Any sheriff, deputy sheriff, livestock brand
inspector, or officer or patrolmantrooper of the Wyoming
highway patrol, after notification to the owner of livestock
described in subsection (a) of this section, if known, shall
within four (4) hours remove the livestock from the public
highway, impound the same in the nearest convenient place
where feed and water are available and immediately notify
the owner, if known, of the action. If ownership is not
known, the impounding officer shall report his action to an
inspector. The inspector shall make a diligent effort to
ascertain ownership of the impounded livestock, and for this
purpose may hold the livestock not more than ten (10) days.
If unable to determine ownership, the inspector shall ship
the impounded livestock to the nearest available market to
be sold as estrays. Reasonable transportation and sales
expenses shall be paid from the proceeds of the sale.

18-6-306. Care of prisoners arrested by state trooper
and other special officers.

(a) Every sheriff or keeper of any jail shall provide
space if available for holding any persons arrested by a
state highway patrolman trooper or
other special officer of
the state lawfully entitled to make arrests, prior to their
trial and final commitment or release subject to the order
of the court having jurisdiction.

(b) Every sheriff or keeper of a jail to which any
persons may be committed by any state highway patrolman
trooper or other special officer of the state shall be
responsible for the safekeeping of such persons according to
the terms of such commitment.

31-3-102. Miscellaneous fees.

(b) A five dollar ($5.00) fee shall be collected for
each vehicle identification number inspected pursuant to
W.S. 31-2-103(a)(vi). The fee shall be deposited as
follows:

(iii) If the inspection is performed by a state
highway patrolman trooper then in the state's general fund; or

31-18-301. Permanent cards and decals; operation
without authority; inspections.

(c) A copy of the current authority shall upon demand,
be presented by the driver of the vehicle to any of the
field investigators of the department, members of the state
highway patrol or authorized personnel of the department at
its ports of entry. Investigators, patrolmentroopers and
authorized personnel may compel the driver to stop and
submit the vehicle to an inspection by signs directing
commercial vehicles or the motor carrier to stop at ports of
entry or other locations designated by the department or by
warning devices on vehicles of investigators, patrolmen
troopers or authorized personnel. All ports of entry shall
post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
for inspection. Notwithstanding the provisions of this
section, a vehicle that is properly registered, has a proper
fuel license, valid authority and is legal in size and
weight, upon approval by the department, may be authorized
to bypass a port of entry unless specifically directed to
stop by an investigator, patrolmantrooper or authorized
personnel or by a sign or signal specifically requiring
those vehicles to stop. These vehicles may, however, be
required to slow to the designated speed and use the
directed traffic lane for size and weight screening
purposes.

(d) Vehicles checking through a port of entry shall
not be required to stop at any other port of entry within
the state on that trip unless there is an increase in the
size or weight of the vehicle or its load, or unless
specifically directed to stop by an investigator, patrolman
trooper or authorized personnel or by a sign or signal
specifically requiring those vehicles to stop.

31-18-805. Penalties for violations; permit where
vehicle or load cannot be dismantled; enforcement; fines.

(c) A driver of any vehicle, or combination of
vehicles upon demand of any state highway patrolmantrooper
having reason to believe that the weight of any vehicle or
combination, including load, if any, is unlawful, shall stop
and submit the vehicle or combination of vehicles and any
load thereon to a weighing at any state owned or leased
scales not to exceed five (5) miles from the declared route
of travel, unless the vehicle has been weighed at a port of
entry with the same load. The driver shall comply with the
directions of the patrolman trooper to obtain the total
weight or measurement of the load and vehicle.

Section 2. This act is effective July 1, 1999.

Zen Road Warrior 11-12-2007 10:17 AM

thanks for the replies and the help. interestingly i have the prepass but it failed at the point of entry. but i did get the green light on the scale.

it is a little confusing sometimes.....the only light or sign was a light that turns red or green. if you don't get the green light you would be blocking traffic in the whole lane.

i've seen others that are clearer where there is a sign stating to park or an arrow. but this one was just red or green.

Rockee 11-12-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by BigDiesel
All ports of entry shall
post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
for inspection.

I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO

devildice 11-12-2007 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Rockee

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
All ports of entry shall
post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
for inspection.

I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO

yep

tweety bird 11-12-2007 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by devildice

Originally Posted by Rockee

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
All ports of entry shall
post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
for inspection.

I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO

yep

NOPE:

Wyoming Port of Entry Info


You still are supposed to go in and show them your permits.

BigDiesel 11-12-2007 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by tweety bird

Originally Posted by devildice

Originally Posted by Rockee

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
All ports of entry shall
post signs or signals indicating when the facility is open
and directing commercial vehicles or motor carriers to stop
for inspection.

I take that to mean, if there is no signs or a loudspeaker saying come in and visit us.....green means GO

yep

NOPE:

Wyoming Port of Entry Info


You still are supposed to go in and show them your permits.

Thats the link I was looking for.

RottsATruckin 11-13-2007 10:49 AM

I got the red light, no scale just go in and show my permits, got the green on my pre-pass for the next half dozen times, then last week I got the red light, my permits had expired and I'd just received new ones, my guess is that they knew my old ones were expired and wanted to check/register my new ones.

Rockee 11-13-2007 12:00 PM

I stand corrected, my apologies

rcpilot 11-14-2007 11:49 AM

I don't deliver in Wyoming but I travel the 80 on every run, I go through the scale and get the green arrow pointing me to the parking area every time, have to go in and they log my DOT number and ask what I'm hauling... unless you have a pre-pass every truck has to go in (when they are open) and show them your DOT number and regisrtation.

rcpilot 11-21-2007 05:26 PM

Went thru Wyoming on Tuesday and ask the port officer and he confirmed that ALL commercial vehicles must stop unless you have Pre-Pass and a green light...

nickbtubas 11-21-2007 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by http://www.coopsareopen.com/wyoming-weigh-stations.html
If you have PrePass and get the green, bypass light, you will not have to stop at a Wyoming Port of Entry. If you get the red light or if you do not have PrePass, you will be required to stop. They will weigh your truck and direct you to pull of the scale. You are then required to take your permits into the Port of Entry so they can check them. A green light when you are sitting on the truck scale means you have been weighed. It doesn't mean you can leave the Port of Entry.


says nothing about going in and declaring a load delivering to the state of Wyoming even on green light


or am i dumb and totally misread this post??

11-21-2007 07:10 PM

I've been through there lots of times and the first time I got a green light but went inside. He checked my paperwork anyways but he said I should do what the light says and I should have just drove through.

chuck3507 11-21-2007 07:22 PM

Its been my experience that they almost always green light me on the scale with a green overhead arrow pointing towards the parking. I go in show permits and they ask what I am hauling. They said it had to do with a tax exemption for oil and gas.

Roadhog 11-26-2007 03:04 PM

Anytime I've been directed in to that Scale house, I've had to stop and go show my pedigree and what I'm hauling.

One time the pretty female Officer...(WELL worth the stop I must say) (Wyoming has some pretty wimmin :D )...she asked me what I was hauling, and I cocked one eyebrow and said Frozen Chinese.
She looked at me and said...That's Illegal you know!
I replied...Hell, that ain't the worst of it...you should hear them beitch, when they thaw out. :evil: :?

Orangetxguy 11-26-2007 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by roadhog
Anytime I've been directed in to that Scale house, I've had to stop and go show my pedigree and what I'm hauling.

One time the pretty female Officer...(WELL worth the stop I must say) (Wyoming has some pretty wimmin :shock: :D )...she asked me what I was hauling, and I cocked one eyebrow and said Frozen Chinese.
She looked at me and said...That's Illegal you know!
I replied...Hell, that ain't the worst of it...you should hear them beitch, when they thaw out. :evil: :?

DANGER WILL ROBINSON....DANGER !!!!!!

My former sis-in-law works part-time at the Evanston scale....and she ain't no-where's near "purtty". Never was...never will be !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Roadhog 11-26-2007 03:25 PM

That is a true story! :lol:

Now...mind you, I drove a lotta miles, and add to the fact I've lowered my standards over the years, but this is what I remember. :? :P

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...fdIMG_9267.jpg

Orangetxguy 11-26-2007 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by roadhog
That is a true story! :lol:

Now...mind you, I drove a lotta miles, and add to the fact I've lowered my standards over the years, but this is what I remember. :? :P

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...fdIMG_9267.jpg


:lol: :lol: :lol: When would ya ever see her working in a scale house !!!! :shock: :shock: :party:

Roadhog 11-27-2007 12:35 AM

Well...if they did adopt a friendlier atmosphere...
There would be a dramatic drop in Drivers using the Green Arrow as an excuse to drive-off. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nd10/smile.gif
...free chicken wings would be nice too. :?

rvrjr7 11-30-2007 05:48 AM

Hmm i didnt know that about wyoming. the last time I was out there I came through the port of entry i forgot what road it was on but I was heading down towards Greybull to load I went through that port of entry then I came across I think it was us16 towards Sheridon and went through that one
I always stop its better and alot cheaper to stop and have them tell you you are good to go

PackRatTDI 11-30-2007 12:08 PM

I figured if you drove off they'd come after you. :?

Jackrabbit379 12-01-2007 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by SteveBooth
I've been through there lots of times and the first time I got a green light but went inside. He checked my paperwork anyways but he said I should do what the light says and I should have just drove through.

There aint no way I would stop at a green light. :lol:

Roadhog 12-01-2007 06:34 AM

changed my post...hehehe

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nd10/smile.gif

BanditsCousin 12-03-2007 07:25 AM

I fly past any weigh station when I get the green. They have your permits and stuff on file (sometimes). I got pulled in in Colorado because they had to update my DOT #'s.


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