Prescription meds
 

Hey all! I'm returning to driving this Jan. due to tearing my acl twice this past year. Anyway my Dr. put me on wellbutrin for depression (sitting doing nothing gets to ya!!!) which worked some what. then just recently he added a low dose of xanax to help with anxiety. I don't feel tired with it or any other side effects that some complain about. I have over two yrs. otr and I know that it takes your full mental awareness. I feel great and fully alert all day. Question is will a company look at me and the other is will the xanax show up on an urine test. I know the wellbutrin won't but not sure about the xanax..... thnks

Prescription Meds
 

Why don't you check with the safety department of the company you're interested in and ask 'em about the meds? Doesn't your copy of the FMCSA Driver Handbook give you any info too? BOL

Xanax more than likely will. However, since that is a drug that is only taken as necessary...maybe not using it a couple of weeks or more before taken the UA would be a good idea. I would suggest not having it around a CMV. I know for a fact that XANAX....can reduce you to a drooling blob if you manage to stay awake..... 8)

Ask your doctor how long it takes to clear your system completely. Then once you are employed....do not use it. That stuff puts you down for the count. If you were in a CMV "asleep"....after taking one of those.... and the truck caught on fire....we would be reading your obituary the next day or two. Lousy way to make the 6 PM newscast.

Yes, many years ago.....before I got into this, I was prescribed Xanax so that I could sleep... seemed I had become an insomniac...and that stuff literally knocked me to the floor in short order. Slept like a baby. My wife said I slept like the dead. Its not a medication to "trifle" with.....

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I agree with contacting your carrier. If they spot test you; they NEED to know what you are taking. Also I would be very careful on taking any of it. Meds can reduce your reaction time a great deal. Besides, going through life as a vegetable ain't livin'.

Thanks for the info, but being on a small dosage .25mg twice daily, does not but me in a comatose state.... I feel fine and full of energy. I beleive when people need meds for the right reason rather than just taken them for recreational use it makes a big difference!!! I must say xanax does have a bad rep/ but when used as prescribed and for the right reason it works. and not all have some of those bad side effects. So I did look it up on fmcsa and they don't look for such drugs as it is in the class 4. thnks tho for the replies...

Your doctor prescribed xanax and wellbutrin . You could have saved a trip to the Doctors ,and just bought a SACK-O-Weed and a bag of Cheetos . :wink:

I was prescribed welbutrin as part of a stop smoking program when I was in the Navy. It got me so anti-depressed I just quit going to work and sat at home watching cartoons for a few days. My supervisor told me to quit taking them and start coming to work again. I eventually quit smoking with just the patches for a few weeks.
They gave me the weirdest dreams too.

Welbutrin wouldn't be a problem. Xanax will be though for most major carriers insurance companies. I would suggest possibly looking for an alternative medication like Cymbalta, which is an easily approved low dose med.

Ya, don't try that, I did and ended up going to the emergency room cause my wiener turned orange.

i hope you weren't eating sticky cheetos :wink: ....I think they make a GENERIC version of Wellbutrin marketed under the name "LIFE -B-GOOD" and "POUT -NO-MORE " .

Is Xanax one of the drugs tested for in the NIDA 5 test? If you were to come up positive taking Xanax wouldn't the MRO be in contact with you to verify you have a valid RX for the drug and then once this is confirmed wouldn't you be cleared? Would the MRO notify the employer of what your tests results indicated, or only if you passed or failed?

I am not telling you what to do or giving you any advice, but your medical records are private, whatever you disclose to your prospective employer is more or less voluntary. This said you must understand that taking Benzodiazepine's will slow down your CNS and make if dangerous to operate any motor vehicles while under the influence.

I am looking for clarification here. Let us know what you find out as I plan to have dental work next Friday and will need some narcotic pain relievers. My fear is coming back to work Monday and getting a random test after taking the Rx all weekend. It was explained that since I will have a valid Rx if I tell the clinic on my paperwork I do have an Rx I would be ok.

Thanks, the voice of experience is always appreciated. :lol:

I remember a fellow new hire and friend and I were in orientation where he did end up testing positive for morphine in his DS. I do remember the only thing the company would tell him was they still haven't heard back the lab yet. Now you are saying the company is told about your failure before the patient does? This confuses me. I guess this company did things bass ackwards. Now this level of morphine was very low and the company never knew anything about this as it was a legal Rx. Last I heard though your right to privacy still stands unless you give your right to someone to specifically review your records. This is why you must give those signed consents to get your D and A results from other companies when looking for new work.

I don't think the company can be told the results of the drug test, only that it was good or there was a problem with it. Only the MRO can discuss the problem and only with you.

From the website: http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/question...Stmnt_0706.pdf

As you can see they are exempt from HIPAA rules.

kc0iv

I got that but this is where I am confused according to DOT 49 CFR Part 40 Part 1 of 3 it states:

Stand-Down
Stand-down refers to an employer practice of temporarily removing an employee from performance of safety-sensitive duties upon learning that the individual had a confirmed laboratory positive drug test, but before the MRO has completed the verification process. The existing regulation prohibits stand-down. MROs are not permitted to inform employers about the existence of a confirmed laboratory positive test pending verification, and employers are not allowed to take any action concerning an employee until they receive the MRO’s notification of a verified positive test.
The preamble to the NPRM noted the reasons for the current policy: stand-down undercuts the rationale for MRO review, can compromise the confidentiality of test results, and may result in unfair stigmatization of an employee as a drug user. While the rationale for stand-down is that it enhances safety, the Department has no evidence that the current policy has compromised safety. For example, we are not aware of any case in which an employee has had a drug-related accident while verification of a confirmed positive drug test was pending.
The preamble also noted that some employers advocated the use of stand-down as a measure to enhance safety and reduce liability. They wanted to use this approach to eliminate, as far as possible, any risk that someone who had tested positive would be involved in an accident before the MRO could complete the verification process. We noted that, essentially for this reason, the Department’s own internal drug testing program stood down some employees (e.g., air traffic controllers) in some circumstances following a report of a confirmed positive laboratory test.

This makes a lot of sense because why would it be ok to tell your company that you tested positive for an illegal controlled substance when you may well have a legal reason to have said substance in your system. It really doesn't matter, I think we are saying the exact same thing but from different viewpoints. No one should be allowed to drive under the influence. No one should also get their employers attention by mis classification due to a positive test that was also legal in all ways either. Are you a recruiter, or someone in the operations side of logistics because you have a lot of knowledge. I am really concerned about this dental work I am going to be getting soon.[/b]

Fasttruck: Nothing in the regs cited in KC0iv's last post actually indicates that the MRO can tell your employer that you failed a test UNTIL after he has "verified" it by discussing it with YOU first. IF you have a reason, he then has to verify that with the doctor. If you DON'T, then he "verifies" the positive test and informs your employer. (without your written consent.)

The prohibition against a "stand down" is part of why the MRO does NOT inform the employer that you FAILED a test, just that there is a problem with it that he needs to discuss with you. They may INFER what they want from this, but cannot take any action until it is verified.

As for YOUR case, the dental work.... I'd discuss it with your safety dept beforehand, and perhaps get clear on what types of pain relievers the dentist should prescribe for you. Best to have it all on the record.

Yes, I DID. Did you notice it was past tense? And did you notice the reference to the CURRENT policy?

I believe if you look at the whole discussion that Fasttruck quoted, you'll get the understanding that this WAS the policy of some employers, has been CHANGED to a new policy, and that the MRO can no longer notify employers of a failed test until AFTER it has been VERIFIED (which includes talking to the employee FIRST) because it was found to stigmatize employees when they may have had a good reason.

In investigating the concerns of BOTH employers and employees, they found that this stand-down HAD in fact, been done once by the DOT (quite some time ago, IIRC,) to some of its OWN employees. And that they had done so for precisely the reason that they discussed as the rationale for the OLD policy. However, they've determined that such rationale UNDERCUTS the purpose of the verification process, AND has no measured effect on safety.

[this is all based on analysis of the portion that Fasttruck posted. I'm SURE you'll investigate further, and if you find I am wrong, please let me know.]

And, if you look at 40.327, you'll notice that the MRO can report the info, without consent, AFTER the verification process.

40.129/131/133 ALL indicate the steps an MRO MUST take (including notifying the employee first) before verifying a positive test and informing the DER of it.

I've been on Fioricet w/ Codeine for a couple years now. Never really looked into if it was "D.O.T." approved becasue personally, when I take it I can function normally, but not safely..... and I know this, therefore I don't mess with it during work hours! Now when I get home..... that migraine thats put me damn near to my knees all day gets a killer dose and is gone in minutes!!!