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Originally Posted by Miloh
I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I'm just asking to get educated for my own good. Why would a company that is trying to make money "in a sneaky way" cut a drivers throat?? I've seen this acusation in several places on this board and have no reason to doubt what your saying but it makes no sence that the company would try to make a driver go broke and it's made to sound like they do it on purpose to make life hard for O/Os.
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Miloh
I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ I'm just asking to get educated for my own good. Why would a company that is trying to make money "in a sneaky way" cut a drivers throat?? I've seen this acusation in several places on this board and have no reason to doubt what your saying but it makes no sence that the company would try to make a driver go broke and it's made to sound like they do it on purpose to make life hard for O/Os.
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Originally Posted by Miloh
That still makes no since. It would seem less expensive to keep a driver than train a new one to replace one thats generating revenue. What your saying might be true but on the face of it there is no reason for the action you imply.
Plus, a driver who has been there for any period of time will likely want additional revenue when they realize that they cannot survive on what these companies are paying. Since the carrier is obviously not going to provide it, they simply turn the truck over to a new sucker who will rent a job from them. Let me give you a scenario: Lease purchase company A gets a driver into a L/P truck that has a payoff period of 36 months. At the end of 36 months of payments of $600 per week, they would have the truck paid for, and the carrier would stop gaining revenue from the truck. BUT, if that driver fails at the L/P at 12 months, the carrier can then put another sucker in to the same truck, and start that 36 month cycle all over again. SO, the carrier could keep doing this until the truck is completely used up, or someone manages to get lucky and finish the lease. |
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Miloh
That still makes no since. It would seem less expensive to keep a driver than train a new one to replace one thats generating revenue. What your saying might be true but on the face of it there is no reason for the action you imply.
Plus, a driver who has been there for any period of time will likely want additional revenue when they realize that they cannot survive on what these companies are paying. Since the carrier is obviously not going to provide it, they simply turn the truck over to a new sucker who will rent a job from them. Let me give you a scenario: Lease purchase company A gets a driver into a L/P truck that has a payoff period of 36 months. At the end of 36 months of payments of $600 per week, they would have the truck paid for, and the carrier would stop gaining revenue from the truck. BUT, if that driver fails at the L/P at 12 months, the carrier can then put another sucker in to the same truck, and start that 36 month cycle all over again. SO, the carrier could keep doing this until the truck is completely used up, or someone manages to get lucky and finish the lease. At $600.00 for 36 months or 156 weeks thats like $90,000 for the truck if you do make it. if those figures are accurate.....Hell you can buy a used truck for a lot less than that. And that sure don't leave much room to make money for the driver. Thanks for the lesson. Miloh. |
I think the large rate of failure also has to do with the fact that 99% of these lease ops have no business running a cash register at Burger King, let alone running their own small business. As much as I hate to say it, I know several L/O from CRE personally. They are doing quite well and two of them are on the Master Premier Jedi Knight level, or something like that.
But, they've been leasing more than the "36 months" that a lot of people alledge the company is pre-determined to fail you at. Leasing a truck is no different than owning one in that you have many of the very same expenses, ie fuel, maintenance, tires, etc. There are a lot of O/O who fail just as miserably as some L/O. But you're not as likely to hear them bitch and moan because the only person to blame is themselves. It's much easier to pass the blame onto CRE, Swift, JB Hunt, etc. Hell, even the much respected Schneider is now offering a lease. Go figure. Is CRE a terrible company who's out to get you? I don't know because I've never worked for them. |
Originally Posted by greg3564
I think the large rate of failure also has to do with the fact that 99% of these lease ops have no business running a cash register at Burger King, let alone running their own small business. As much as I hate to say it, I know several L/O from CRE personally. They are doing quite well and two of them are on the Master Premier Jedi Knight level, or something like that.
But, they've been leasing more than the "36 months" that a lot of people alledge the company is pre-determined to fail you at. Leasing a truck is no different than owning one in that you have many of the very same expenses, ie fuel, maintenance, tires, etc. There are a lot of O/O who fail just as miserably as some L/O. But you're not as likely to hear them bitch and moan because the only person to blame is themselves. It's much easier to pass the blame onto CRE, Swift, JB Hunt, etc. Hell, even the much respected Schneider is now offering a lease. Go figure. Is CRE a terrible company who's out to get you? I don't know because I've never worked for them. The difference between buying and leasing are: Truck payment of 700-1,000.00 per month:Lease payments are around 2,400.00 a month. Buying gives you MORE control as to what to do with your equipment such as leasing on to a different company or getting your authority altogether,as a lease op you are stuck with the same carrier and THEY control how many miles you get each week. HUGE difference between the two. |
Originally Posted by DD60
Originally Posted by greg3564
I think the large rate of failure also has to do with the fact that 99% of these lease ops have no business running a cash register at Burger King, let alone running their own small business. As much as I hate to say it, I know several L/O from CRE personally. They are doing quite well and two of them are on the Master Premier Jedi Knight level, or something like that.
But, they've been leasing more than the "36 months" that a lot of people alledge the company is pre-determined to fail you at. Leasing a truck is no different than owning one in that you have many of the very same expenses, ie fuel, maintenance, tires, etc. There are a lot of O/O who fail just as miserably as some L/O. But you're not as likely to hear them bitch and moan because the only person to blame is themselves. It's much easier to pass the blame onto CRE, Swift, JB Hunt, etc. Hell, even the much respected Schneider is now offering a lease. Go figure. Is CRE a terrible company who's out to get you? I don't know because I've never worked for them. The difference between buying and leasing are: Truck payment of 700-1,000.00 per month:Lease payments are around 2,400.00 a month. Buying gives you MORE control as to what to do with your equipment such as leasing on to a different company or getting your authority altogether,as a lease op you are stuck with the same carrier and THEY control how many miles you get each week. HUGE difference between the two. The payments can vary for O/O. New truck- $100,000 - 20%(20,000) = $80,000 $80,000 financed at 7% over 36 months is $2,506.90 Now that's for a new truck and that was a good rate. CRE's current lease payment for a NEW truck is $443 a week x 4=$1772 Again there are a lot of variables, buy new or used, credit score, money down, etc that will affect the O/O payment. |
Originally Posted by greg3564
The payments can vary for O/O.
New truck- $100,000 - 20%(20,000) = $80,000 $80,000 financed at 7% over 36 months is $2,506.90 Now that's for a new truck and that was a good rate. CRE's current lease payment for a NEW truck is $443 a week x 4=$1772 $443 a week X 52 weeks a year = $23036 per year / 12 months = $1919.67 per month. And when did CRE drop their lease payments from over $600 to $443? |
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by greg3564
The payments can vary for O/O.
New truck- $100,000 - 20%(20,000) = $80,000 $80,000 financed at 7% over 36 months is $2,506.90 Now that's for a new truck and that was a good rate. CRE's current lease payment for a NEW truck is $443 a week x 4=$1772 $443 a week X 52 weeks a year = $23036 per year / 12 months = $1919.67 per month. And when did CRE drop their lease payments from over $600 to $443? |
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