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Originally Posted by Triple.C
Originally Posted by Useless
I don't know this person personally, but nothing could be less relevant
You are the one who came here shouting in bold print that my advice should be disgarded, but you don't seem to have much to offer!!! I think it's called a "cheap shot"!!! |
My biggest fear is not driving in winter weather but driving in it with people around me who are freaked out about it or just plain idiots. I can control what my rig is doing but not what they are doing around me. I happened to be with my wife yesterday when we got hit by snow coming home from Wally World in her new AWD Fusion. I figured, great, we get to see what this thing can do now. Did great but I can't say the same for the 4WD SUV's that were in the woods from going way too fast for the conditions. What bothered me was the people blowing by us, I was afraid they would lose control and take us out with them, or the dummies who kept slapping on their brakes in front of us while running 25 mph.
If you feel uncomfortable, park it and tell your dispatch that it is unsafe to continue and will not move until the weather and roads clear up. If they don't like it, call your safety dept. and they will take care of dispatch. No load is worth wrecking a truck and your career if you hit bad weather. |
Originally Posted by Triple.C
Don't let people on this board or in real-life talk you out of owning your own truck, especially those who don't know you personally or the industry. That being said... I wouldn't do it with Prime.
I'm gonna buy my own truck with Crete even though people have told me over and over not to do it. As for driving in winter, just slow down, take your time. Leave yourself extra room, if something happens ahead of you and traffic is stopped you need more room to stop in bad weather. If something was to happen, such as your trailer starts to jackknife, the slower you are moving the more likely you will be able to correct it. Ice is what you should be afraid of not snow, I always watch the tires of other cars or trucks that pass me, if you don't see any spray coming up from the tires and the road looks wet, it means you are probably on ice. You don't want to be braking or accelerating suddenly if the road is like that. If you see ice building up on your mirrors or your mirror arms, it means that there is ice on the road as well |
Originally Posted by Shawnee
Leasing a truck from a company is not the same as owning a truck, If you lease a truck this way you will never own it. The only way that I buy my trucks is to go to the dealer and buy it.
Ice is what you should be afraid of not snow, I always watch the tires of other cars or trucks that pass me, if you don't see any spray coming up from the tires and the road looks wet, it means you are probably on ice. We grabbed our showers, and then walked over to Ruby Tuesday's had a nice dinner, and a couple of drinks. (no, we didn't get plastered or anything!!)...... Walked back to the truck, I climbed up into the bunk, we watched a movie, and then I slept like a log for the next eight hours or so.. After running non-stop for so long, as we had been doing for several weeks, the black ice actually offered us a welcome reprieve!! |
I think you should follow your heart, I know alot of lease operators who gone through the system and now they own the damn truck and its all good, people telling you not to do it on here are most likely repeating what they here.. they might not ever tried to lease a truck and maybe if they did and their telling you not to, well its not your fault they are a failure.. maybe you are better than them and can lease a truck and be sucessful.. wwo really knows unless you follow your heart and try what you think is best for you, if you fail at the test then you failed and its okay you can start over again.... Don't listen to people who fail and think you are gonna fail, I think your smarter than that..
Driving in snow is okay, first if you are not sure park the truck and wait. Now if you try driving in snow just go slow and get the feel of the truck, don't pay attention to other drivers flying past you, just go as slow as you feel is safe, if not park the truck... all in time you will find a comfort zone for snow driving, I my self grew up in snow and find driving in snow is better than on ice... just go slow and you will learn how to drive in snow. |
Originally Posted by uglymutt
Don't listen to people who fail and think you are gonna fail, I think your smarter than that..
Financial success is not achieved by warm, fuzzy feelings in the heart, or allowing the feelings in your heart to override the facts; it is achieved by understanding the nature of a specific market, the impact that other markets can have on a specific market, the nature of the people who largely comprise that market, and formulating a sound mathematical model that will lay the groundwork for a road map that will lead an entrepreneur to a successful outcome. Having said all of that, I did manage to play a few well placed hunches, but in each case, I was gambling upon what I knew about the people who were involved with the deals, and their demonstrated track records of success. Conversely, I steered away from a few deals because "something just didn't feel right" about them; couldn't always put my finger on what exactly it was, but my instincts just told me to steer clear. The failure rate for Lease Purchase Operators is nothing short of abysmal; yes, there will be a few anecdotal cases where a L/P/O succeeds, but those cases are few and far between. The vast majority of those arrangements are due to fail from the beginning. Hypothetically, a L/P/O can work as long as nothing goes too terribly wrong. In the world of trucking, there are always plenty of things that can and do go wrong, and the person who succeeds will be the person who has the knowledge and experience to work around those obstacles, and keep as many of the peripheral circumstances under his/her control. The problem with a L/P arrangement is that you are at the mercy of the company that you lease from, and in the end, they make money when you fail as well as when you succeed, but they do not have to deal with all of the risks involved; those risks are passed on to the Fleece Operator, yet the F/O is limited in his/her ability to govern those risks. Regardless of the person involved with trying to function profitably as a Fleece Operator, the mathematical parameters are weighted very heavily against the F/O, and the abysmal failure rate of F/O's supports that premise quite clearly. |
Re: Fear of winter driving
Originally Posted by just_froggy
Am I paranoid?? I love to drive trucks, but I am not doing it right now. I want to go back on the road and team again with my fiance', but there are so many pros and cons. One of the cons is that he wants to lease with Prime and I am dead set against it.
Anyhoo, back to my question. I am a good driver, but the thought of driving in the snow scares the hell out of me, and I have never even driven in snow (in a T/T that is). I'm fine driving in snowy weather in my car. I don't know if I am afraid just because of the size of the truck or the thought that how easily I can lose control if I am not careful or what. Has anyone else had this problem, and, how do you get past it? Two years ago, my wife and I teamed a load from Portland, OR, leaving there at 5 AM on Tues, and arriving 50 miles north of Miami, FL by 9 PM that Thurs. She took her turn driving and went through some of the worst weather conditions you can imagine. Quite a number of trucks, and far more cars, were off the road, rolled and jack knifed. She has more faith in driving a truck in those conditions than a car. Learn to READ THE ROAD and RESPECT the conditions, rather than fear them. You just might surprise yourself. And good luck to you. |
Originally Posted by uglymutt
I think you should follow your heart, I know alot of lease operators who gone through the system and now they own the damn truck and its all good, people telling you not to do it on here are most likely repeating what they here.. they might not ever tried to lease a truck and maybe if they did and their telling you not to, well its not your fault they are a failure.. maybe you are better than them and can lease a truck and be sucessful
I'm not saying that someone couldn't be successful doing it but if you really want to be an owner operator you are better off to save some money for a down payment on a truck and do it the right way, not do some company a favor by paying the lease for their truck that you will never really own anyway There is a reason that these companies push these lease deals, and it is not becasue there is any advantage to the driver, the only one who gets any kind of advantages is the company themselves |
All I am trying to get at is if you think your gonna fail then why do it, people on here are making it look like you will fail, how do you know if I or anybody will fail? all the LPO,s I know have suceeded in paying off the truck and are happy with the purchase...The only failures I heard of are on this board... that explains it all... All the FFE LPO,s I know are all happy, all the Swift LPO,s I know are all happy....and I know a few CR England LPO,s and hey are happy too....
Some people will fail, like before I read not all have a grasp of this industry, and if you don,t a good time to learn is to jump in and try.... I think if you really had your mind set on a Leased truck then go for it, do your best and try to suceed and chances are you will, don't let others bring you down because they are not you at all, we all are different in ow we do things, if your gonna run in a race and know you will loose then why run at all? |
I have never driven a t/t in the snow either and really haven't even seen much rain. I wouldn't think to step on the gas if the trailer starts to come around me, I probably would have just stepped on the brakes. But I guess it does make more sense to accelerate. Someone told me once too that if I blew a front tire that the worse thing to do would to brake.[/qu mars.usually dont get to that point.but once on 97nb passed goldendale wa at 10pm i topped hill at 25 mph and trucks were on the side so i touched the brakes and trailer was across the road ! black ice! throttled it straight,now im going into klickitat canyon. i felt the need to go slowly.and repeated the manuever several times.once i tried the trolley and same result.i finally got to the bottom and people on the cb were sure i blocked the road and were cursing me because they got chained up and the wsp that followed me down was laughing at me.i drive in snow every year and people razz me for going so slow down the hill
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