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flood 04-23-2007 10:54 PM

the truth plz
 
the only thing that i keep seening wrong with this is that BiggsAtlas is he can't seem to tell the truth to us

the news said he was cited for Negligent Driving..
in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am he said "I wasn't cited"
but in his Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 pm " I just got back from my hearing in Seattle. A court of law found me NOT GUILTY of 2nd Degree Negligent Driving " sounds to me by his own words the news had that right..

in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:17 pm "my lawyers have requested that we wait for OFFICIAL charges to be brought before asking both the WSP and the media for a clarification/Retraction"
as stated above you were charged ...negligent driving
and if you had a lawyer for this then why didn't you use him for your negligent driving charge...??
oh thats right you said in your Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm "I represented myself not because I have an attitude, but because it made no sense to hire one." but you already had a lawyer ready for a Retraction....?

you said "I have never had a commercial driving ticket in over 700,000 miles."at an avg of 125,000 miles a year and you being 27 you started driving a CMV at 21...? if i did my math right

try just telling the truth

for it is better for the world to think you a fool than to open your mouth and show them you are

ssoutlaw 04-23-2007 11:45 PM

Re: the truth plz
 

Originally Posted by flood
the only thing that i keep seening wrong with this is that BiggsAtlas is he can't seem to tell the truth to us

the news said he was cited for Negligent Driving..
in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am he said "I wasn't cited"
but in his Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 pm " I just got back from my hearing in Seattle. A court of law found me NOT GUILTY of 2nd Degree Negligent Driving " sounds to me by his own words the news had that right..

in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:17 pm "my lawyers have requested that we wait for OFFICIAL charges to be brought before asking both the WSP and the media for a clarification/Retraction"
as stated above you were charged ...negligent driving
and if you had a lawyer for this then why didn't you use him for your negligent driving charge...??
oh thats right you said in your Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm "I represented myself not because I have an attitude, but because it made no sense to hire one." but you already had a lawyer ready for a Retraction....?

you said "I have never had a commercial driving ticket in over 700,000 miles."at an avg of 125,000 miles a year and you being 27 you started driving a CMV at 21...? if i did my math right

try just telling the truth

for it is better for the world to think you a fool than to open your mouth and show them you are

If you cant drive 125k miles a year, You need to get a new JOB!!!
Quit nitpicking at his posts, it dosent make you look any smarter. What are you CADS post police, judge and jury??????? We need to give you the chicken little award also...lol Go ahead, be led by the media, all I can say to you is MOOOOOO,MOOOOO,MOOOOOOO....lol

flood 04-24-2007 08:57 AM

what i said was that it is hard to beleave someone that can't keep his story the same. the news said he was charged.... he said he wasn't... then he comes back and said he beat it, so by HIS words the news was right ON THAT point.

i never said that the news was right all the time did i ...?

it's not NITPICKING to point out when someone's story changes
if you say something never happened and then you say it did then by definition one of the two is a lie RIGHT...?

if someone comes on here and has four post on one thread and can't keep his story the same then how can a rational person beleave them...

you have your opinion and sometimes i think you are right just not this time

in either case this looks bad for trucking and it will not come out in the news that he beat it and that IS unfortunate.

allan5oh 04-24-2007 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by uglymutt
oh another thing was his age of 27, I personally think CDL should start at 34 years old before you can get one, 27 with 18 tickets, bet he smokes crack too... but raise the age and get more mature people to drive.. 27 is still the wreckless years to me, not stable at all at that age... 34 you got a grip on responsability and respect, 27 is still a punk in my book...

I have to disagree with you completely. I got my CDL at age 21, after 6 weeks of "school" then 3 months with my old man. We ran as a single driver basically.

I'm sorry but I see more "supertruckers" and generally bad drivers with guys in the 40 year old range. These guys are set in their ways.

After going with my old man for 3 months, I bought my own truck. I do not regret it for a second.

got mud? 04-24-2007 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by flood
what i said was that it is hard to beleave someone that can't keep his story the same. the news said he was charged.... he said he wasn't... then he comes back and said he beat it, so by HIS words the news was right ON THAT point.

i never said that the news was right all the time did i ...?

it's not NITPICKING to point out when someone's story changes
if you say something never happened and then you say it did then by definition one of the two is a lie RIGHT...?

if someone comes on here and has four post on one thread and can't keep his story the same then how can a rational person beleave them...

you have your opinion and sometimes i think you are right just not this time

in either case this looks bad for trucking and it will not come out in the news that he beat it and that IS unfortunate.

you just gave a prime example of what the press does to a statement to twist peoples words so that they fit their objective. you quoted biggs as saying "i was not cited" but his actual quote was "I wasnt cited at the scene" taken out of context it competently changes the meaning. he was most likely cited after the fact due to pressure from the community based on news reports. how do we know that the officer didn't say that he was clocking people at 70 miles an hour before the first accident and the press then took that statement and one about bigs and twisted it. lets face it the big speeding trucker with a checkered past sells more papers then the truth.

flood if your going to call someone a liar you better check your facts and if your going to quote someone to try to disprove them you better make sure your right cause otherwise you look like the ass

got mud? 04-24-2007 03:38 PM

Re: the truth plz
 

Originally Posted by flood
the only thing that i keep seening wrong with this is that BiggsAtlas is he can't seem to tell the truth to us

the news said he was cited for Negligent Driving..
in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am he said "I wasn't cited"
but in his Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 pm " I just got back from my hearing in Seattle. A court of law found me NOT GUILTY of 2nd Degree Negligent Driving " sounds to me by his own words the news had that right..

in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:17 pm "my lawyers have requested that we wait for OFFICIAL charges to be brought before asking both the WSP and the media for a clarification/Retraction"
as stated above you were charged ...negligent driving
and if you had a lawyer for this then why didn't you use him for your negligent driving charge...??
oh thats right you said in your Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm "I represented myself not because I have an attitude, but because it made no sense to hire one." but you already had a lawyer ready for a Retraction....?

you said "I have never had a commercial driving ticket in over 700,000 miles."at an avg of 125,000 miles a year and you being 27 you started driving a CMV at 21...? if i did my math right

try just telling the truth

for it is better for the world to think you a fool than to open your mouth and show them you are

how do you know that he didn't talk to a lawyer (as most offer free consultations) and after receiving only a citation he chose not to pay the retainer to hire the lawyer. or maybe the lawyer he hired for the retraction doesn't deal with traffic violations maybe you should take a little of your own advice!

ssoutlaw 04-25-2007 01:34 AM

Re: the truth plz
 

Originally Posted by got mud?

Originally Posted by flood
the only thing that i keep seening wrong with this is that BiggsAtlas is he can't seem to tell the truth to us

the news said he was cited for Negligent Driving..
in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am he said "I wasn't cited"
but in his Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 pm " I just got back from my hearing in Seattle. A court of law found me NOT GUILTY of 2nd Degree Negligent Driving " sounds to me by his own words the news had that right..

in his Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:17 pm "my lawyers have requested that we wait for OFFICIAL charges to be brought before asking both the WSP and the media for a clarification/Retraction"
as stated above you were charged ...negligent driving
and if you had a lawyer for this then why didn't you use him for your negligent driving charge...??
oh thats right you said in your Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm "I represented myself not because I have an attitude, but because it made no sense to hire one." but you already had a lawyer ready for a Retraction....?

you said "I have never had a commercial driving ticket in over 700,000 miles."at an avg of 125,000 miles a year and you being 27 you started driving a CMV at 21...? if i did my math right

try just telling the truth

for it is better for the world to think you a fool than to open your mouth and show them you are

how do you know that he didn't talk to a lawyer (as most offer free consultations) and after receiving only a citation he chose not to pay the retainer to hire the lawyer. or maybe the lawyer he hired for the retraction doesn't deal with traffic violations maybe you should take a little of your own advice!

Good post Mudd, their quick to assume the worst in a driver. and always want to prove someone WRONG to elevate their GODHOOD!! Sorry flood, I must say MOOOOOOOO,MOOOOOOO,MOOOOOOO to YOU.

BanditsCousin 04-26-2007 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by uglymutt
I personally think CDL should start at 34 years old before you can get one, 27 with 18 tickets, bet he smokes crack too... but raise the age and get more mature people to drive.. 27 is still the wreckless years to me, not stable at all at that age... 34 you got a grip on responsability and respect, 27 is still a punk in my book...

Uglymutt, that is the most biased opinion I ever thought I'd hear on here.. Why wait till 34, then you're OLD like you. :roll: :roll:

Got my cdl at 22, owner operator, and safe so far. Over 34 are all punks to me. Gman and Yoopr should never be allowed to drive too. Idiot drivers are of all ages.

See, even I can say stupid things too :roll:

BiggsAtlas 04-26-2007 02:27 PM

OK....HERE WE GO AGAIN... When I stated that I wasnt cited....I was referring to not being cited AT THE SCENE.....I was cited AFTER and investigation a few days later. When I said our lawyers advised me etc....I was referring to my company's lawyers who were dealing only with the slander of me and my company and the media retraction...I have actually decided not to even pursue that although I beleive they still are..... 21???? Actually, I have been driving commercial vehicles of some sort since I was 18 (16 if you count 14 ft cube vans) My father owned a moving company so I grew up around commercial vehicles. I know what a few will say "16???? You have to be 18 (21 to cross state lines) to drive CMV's. You got me, when I was 16 I drove small CMV's (non combination) without a CDL. Hows that for honesty? I broke the law yet agian.... rack it up with my neon lights and my jaywalking and my complete inability to pay tickets on time, parking or otherwise. Bear in mind the difference being RECKLESSNESS and not always OBEYING THE LAW. One shows a disregard for rules (which is what my record shows I do quite a bit of in my younger days) and one shows sheer stupidity and disregard for my safety and that of others.
This will be my last post.....no matter what anyone writes I am done talking about this......I have let this go ....its amusing to me how a few seem to have to pick everything apart.

Useless....thanks for your post....friends. And thanks to everyone who had something nice to say. I hope this last post answered any lingering questions. If it didnt I guess you'll have to live...

flood 04-27-2007 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by BiggsAtlas
OK....HERE WE GO AGAIN... When I stated that I wasnt cited....I was referring to not being cited AT THE SCENE.....I was cited AFTER and investigation a few days later. When I said our lawyers advised me etc....I was referring to my company's lawyers who were dealing only with the slander of me and my company and the media retraction...I have actually decided not to even pursue that although I beleive they still are..... 21???? Actually, I have been driving commercial vehicles of some sort since I was 18 (16 if you count 14 ft cube vans) My father owned a moving company so I grew up around commercial vehicles. I know what a few will say "16???? You have to be 18 (21 to cross state lines) to drive CMV's. You got me, when I was 16 I drove small CMV's (non combination) without a CDL. Hows that for honesty? I broke the law yet agian.... rack it up with my neon lights and my jaywalking and my complete inability to pay tickets on time, parking or otherwise. Bear in mind the difference being RECKLESSNESS and not always OBEYING THE LAW. One shows a disregard for rules (which is what my record shows I do quite a bit of in my younger days) and one shows sheer stupidity and disregard for my safety and that of others.
This will be my last post.....no matter what anyone writes I am done talking about this......I have let this go ....its amusing to me how a few seem to have to pick everything apart.

Useless....thanks for your post....friends. And thanks to everyone who had something nice to say. I hope this last post answered any lingering questions. If it didnt I guess you'll have to live...

thank you for comming back and cleaning the air as to what i was seeing in your post. i had qustions as to what you had said happened and now i don't. thank you again for clearing things up,


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