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If the company you had gone to work for (as a stone cold newbie) and decided to leave after 4 months was trying to screw you? :x :x

My honey quit the company (gave notice, did the right thing) after having BIG problems w/his DM... she was green as him and constantly pressured him to drive illegal, didn't look out for him at all, left him in big jams (all time, no $$$). All was supposed to be copesthetic with the company...

In trying to pursue a new company, he is told that this old company is saying he had issues w/logs - they decided now they wanted 1 year exp to hire him. No one EVER told him he had any issues w/his logs. How would you pursue subsequent companies? (EXCELLENT references from all other employers).

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For clarification, he left "Company A" who had no problems with him whatsoever. Now that he quit, it seems like they're trying to bad mouth him about logs - which he was never told about. How would you pursue employment with other companies when this is what they are saying?

I just tell the truth and let things go as they will. Works pretty well for me.

Guess I don't know what you mean...the issue is not telling the truth...it's about explaining (in advance? only if asked?) why a company is saying you had issues with logs (which you did not).

It would be real simple if they (old company) stuck with the truth! :?

I know that sometimes things that go on his DAC (kindof like a driving "credit" history) can be disputed. I guess it would depend on whether its on his DAC or his prior company is just saying it when they call to check on him.
You also might try talking to some of the smaller companies, they seem to have more of an ear sometimes.
Hopefully someone else can say more on the DAC thing..as I'm only going on what I've seen here.

If log books are his only problem, as the company says, I would not worry about it.

As an employer, log books are the least of my concern. Now if there are lots of late deliveries, accidents, speeding fines, over weight fines and general stupidity, then he has a problem. There are allot of so called drivers with these problems, but boy they can sugar coat it. You never know till they get behind the wheel for a week or two, if they can even drive a truck proficiently. Not many can, or are able to, for any amount of money or benefits.

Other then that, don't worry, and just tell the truth.

That's what I mean. Don't worry about those jerkwads, just tell it true. You'll come out ok in the end.

Thanks for the feedback - all good advice. He was devastated when he heard this and was turned down by the one company he had applied with since. They did say they would hire him after a year experience.

As for other issues - he had none. He drove a lot of states and all on-time deliveries other than loads given to him as a service failure -which he then delivered on time per his updated ETA. He has a totally clean DMV and no other issues. Matter of fact, he went through 3 full inspections at weigh stations in less than 2 months - NO log violations whatsover!!!

We have sent for his DAC from USIS, should be here this week. As for the situation, should he bring it up to potential companies ahead of them checking his old co?

Until your better half gets that year under his belt, he is at a real disadvantage. Most companies will not hire any one with less then a year experience.

I would not hire anyone with with less then three years experience. Any less time, and my insurance rates would spike, no matter the drivers record or abilities.

Good that you are getting a copy of the DAC. I hate that outfit, because anything could be put one there, and there really is no recourse for a driver to dispute.

Once he has a year or more under his belt, preferably with one carrier, he can be more choosy. We hate to see job jumpers. And yes, we know what goes on out there, been there, done that. But if a guy has the balls to stick it out, bs and all, it will just help him in the long run. That does not mean he has to break the rules or drive illegal, but there will be times when a little creativity will be needed on his part. That is just a fact of trucking. We ain't machines, and things just don't always work out the way we would like. But the freight still has to get there.

I used to tell my drivers, drive how you feel, just don't be late or screw up. But, and there is a but, if you are going to be late, or have doubts about getting the load there on time, tell us! You know what, no one seemed to know how to use that damn cell phone I gave them. And when they did, it was two hours AFTER their appointment time.

It is drivers like this, and there are more out there then you can ever imagine, that ruin it for allot of the good guys. Every screw up costs money, usually in the thousands of dollars. You miss a load, and have to sit for a day, you may be looking at $500 to $7000.00 in lost revenue. All because the driver did not inform dispatch that there was a problem until it was to late.

The majority of drivers have no clue what is going on out here. They think money grows on trees. Well it doesn't, and it does not take much to do some serious damage to accounts or general reputation of a company. And sometimes, the damage is unrepairable.

Sorry for the rant, and don't take it personal. I just know what it is like on the other side.

Damn I need a boss like you. To bad I'm just getting started as far as "official experience" goes.

That's funny, I think I have around six or seven ex employees still collecting unemployment! Some are going on a year! And there is nothing wrong with them physically. Two have lost there homes!

It does not matter now, I have sold everything off, tractors and trailers. It is just me now, and oh is it nice!

I got tired of the bs and the bs. The work ethic out here is the worst I have ever seen. And I know a few small fleet owners, and other business owners. We all say the same thing regarding the employment pool that currently exists. I can see why the illegals are doing so well. They show up for work, and actually do their jobs, what a novel idea?

You are right to the point! :lol:

I know what you mean, its just like that anti-smoker bunch on one of the other posts. They yell and scream, can't see past the ends of their noses, and offer no alternatives or solutions. Not that that bunch ever has, the gimme generation is leaving its mark.

It is scary, because that bunch has discovered something that allot of us have long feared. They can now vote for what they like and dislike, no matter the consequences, or who they step on. Marxism is alive and well in the good old USA! And the courts have have gone their own way by supporting such stupidity. I guess we now have a democracy.:cry:

You know what I really find scary? I go into a business to pick up or deliver, and the one guy in charge is of questionable citizenship, running a crew of white guys. Allot of times the guy can barely speak English, but after a little conversation with a manager, I find out he is the one that actually shows up for work. He shows up sober, and not hopped up on some drug. He may not be here legally, or speak much of the language, but he understands what most Americans have long forgotten. You don't get nothing for free, unless you vote for it. Go figure?

No, it is getting pretty sad out here. I look at some of these guys driving these trucks. The ghetto clothes, lack of personal hygiene, long unkempt hair, etc. Not the image I like to see, and unfortunately most of the public sees it to. Some of these guys scare me, because I don't know if they are drivers or gang bangers out for an initiation murder. Seen that a few times in W Memphis.

I don't even care about superficial stuff anymore. You come to work? Great, let's go get some shit done. I'll take the crazy leather wearing freak with spikes sticking out of his skin that shows up and does a good job over the clean cut cokesnorting fucktard any day. I come from the Show Me state, get to it.

I had one of those guys working for me. He was a great worker, but the dot and shippers and receivers all gave him a hard time. They did not like his looks. And I told him as part of his employment to take that crap out of his head. He didn't, and cost me some serious cash.

Dot loved to shut him down, and I lost a very good paying expedite run on one of those deals. The damn run paid over $5000 a week for two Detroit to St Louis turns, parts down, racks back twice a week. I have no use for that bunch, no matter how good of a job they do. Looks and appearances do matter out here, especially for us little guys.

That's really sad man. Worst any employer ever had to say about my looks was some offhand crack about me being a hooligan for wearing my hat backwards. Pissed me off all to hell at the time but I don't even wear a hat anymore. I can see being presentable for 5k a week, hell yeah. But then again, you lost the run just for how the guy looked, nothing else? Well yay America.....that's pretty damn sad.

So what your saying is you dont care what the people who sign your check and provide you with a living, have to say about your appearence to their customers.
Are you not happy they care about youand want you to stay employed

Are you saying that you would drop any and all beliefs and or values you or your family may have just to get a paycheck? Enjoy your servitude.

you make no sense i dont understand your response but what the f do i know im american.
and in any other country youd be thrown out on your ass to fend for yourself

The hell are you talking about? Please elaborate on the laws in these foreign countries.

I wasn't aware that wearing a hat backwards was a belief or value. I thought it was a fashion statement (or lack thereof), just like ratty clothes, unwashed stringy long hair, etc.
:roll:

I have no hair :cry: .... well very little, age has cought up to me.

Sorry that I get much little than a couple of guys going on back and forth in reference to nothing to do with my post... :?

Kaji, in case you care (which I somehow doubt other than to tell me you're somehow right) all you are doing by getting ugly and using language (yes..****** is still language) is proving everybody else's point. Especially for being new here I suggest you back off and at least use common courtesy when addressing others, as MOST others here do. Also, hijacking a thread is rude at best, especially to call people names.

My bad, I bow out.

tbrown,
my response would be to go back to my previous Employer, and confront them on this BS claim. I'd get directly to the bottom of it. Face to face.

It has been my policy, anytime I leave an Employer, I do not turn my gear in, until I have a signed letter of reference. Never use to be so important in the years past. But these days...Boy Howdy.... :shock: you have to protect yourself, and your license.
Companies are spending more on checking previous employment history.

I've been a big believer in getting stuff written on paper. Whenever I have left a Company...I too...like your Husband take the high road, and I've been burned after I left. Now I leave smarter. I like to leave the door open, and there have been jobs, I've returned to....and some I've burnt the bridge as I left.

When someone just flat out does you wrong...you have to confront it. Maybe it will get straightened out...maybe not. You need to try though.

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thats a good idea roadhog

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Thanks Ken!

KC....you made a very interesting post. I agree...in business matters, you really need to keep a level head, and yet stand your ground.
What you are saying about federal offense and all...can you explain this a little further?

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Log problems typically aren't a big problem in the hiring process. I personally could not care less if a guy had some slight log problems. These issues happen.

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never mind...

Wow, thats awesome! Glad it worked out for you. Hope it works out well with the new company.