Originally Posted by jonathan4201

First off I'm a total newbie :roll:

In trying to set up for a dock back, I ran over a concrete barrier with the trailer damaging some of the cross members - managed to get it off the barrier and completed the dock and unload.

The trailer is cosmetically damaged - but fully functional. The consignee's property is not damaged and they neglected to even take a report. I reported it to my company and expect to have a determination of fault made against me.

It was my mistake and in hindsight I realize what I did wrong and what to do in the future to avoid a repeat.

Since this was a "preventable" accident (isn't that a contradiction)

Does the company report this accident on my DAC?

If they do report it - how would I know?

If it is reported - is there anyway for me to enter my side of the incident?

Thanks for any and all responses.

Originally Posted by toner

there is a way you can post a rebuttal - i think you have to call DAC and speak with someone there.

as far as the information they place on your dac - that depends. some companines only list the # of preventable and non-preventable accidents, some put more info. if they do put more info, it may look like this (this is a hypothetical, i'm making up the actual info but the style and categories are straight from a DAC sitting on my desk right now)

Accident/Incedent # 1
Date: 4/25/2005
DOT Recordable: No
City, State: Tulsa, OK
Injuries: 0
Fatalities: 0
HAZMAT: No
Description: Backing
Preventable Accident/Incedent


Also, I don't see how a preventable accident is a contradiction. If you were driving along, and a giant elephant fell out of the sky 3 ft in front of your tractor, and you hit it - that would be nonpreventable. it wasn't your fault, and you didn't have adequate time to stop before you had tusks thru your windshield. however, if there was an elephant behind you, it was stationary, and you backed into it - it's preventable. it was what YOU were doing in the truck at the time of the accident that determines a preventable or non preventable accident (right? that makes sense to me anyway).

Originally Posted by Creek Jackson

Preventable or non preventable accident? All accidents with no exception are preventable.

Originally Posted by nobotox

What does DAC actually stand for? I asked my instructor at cdl school and she didn't know.

Originally Posted by mbadriver

Boy is that an arrogant statement. Right about the time a person utter's such nonsense the "rusty rod of reality" get's stuck up their rear end.

Originally Posted by Skywalker

"mba".... I agree with you! That statement he made sounds like something uttered by some brainless 21 yr old twit right out of college....who lucked out and got a job in "Safety or Dispatch", who couldn't even figure out how to start a tractor!!

There is a significant difference between a "preventable" and "non-preventable" accident or incident. It boils down to a matter of control or non-control of the vehicle or circumstances.

I guess by "Creek's" standards....if he was sleeping in a truckstop, in the sleeper berth, and the person parked next to him pulled out and raked his tractor and ripped the hood off leaving it on the ground.....he would say it was his fault for lack of anything else....because he was born and happened to be there?

I would have to award him a t-shirt with this on both front and back: :withstupid:

Originally Posted by Fredog

maybe he means preventable on the part of the person who caused it? after all, in your example, the driver who took your hood could have prevented it, but you couldnt..

or, maybe he is just an ass??