I have been around and around with a couple of companies on this question. Some wanted it done at the beginning of the day and some at the end. It seems common sense to me to finish the day, do a post-trip and then check the log and sign it. However, I have had a couple of dot guys want it done at the beginning of the day and my present company wants it like that so I do it. I've never gotten a ticket for it, though. I'd just ask my company how they want it done and do it like that. if you dont sign it and a dot officer says you should I would sign it right in front of him on the spot and say "no Problem, my company wants it done at the end of the day but your the boss"
11 years, I've always signed mine at the end of the day. Never an issue.
I guess I take this view: When signing a legal document, you don't sign it then fill in the blanks (say when you're buying a car...though some dealerships get away with it!). This may not be a document in the same way, but that's the way I've always looked at it.
I guess I could look at the ambiguity either way or vice versa.
again, I never got a ticket doing it like this. I would just ask my company what they want and do it like that. I don't really think the dot cares much. You are responsible for everything on the log anyways.
You are responsible for everything on the log anyways.
^this. The FMCSA even states that the log need not be signed to cite the driver for a log violation. When it is signed is really an irrelevant point. It just needs to be signed before it is submitted to the motor carrier.
yup. if anyone out there thinks they can run 500 miles in 7 hrs and the dot wont shut you down and give you a ticket because you didnt sign your book your dreaming. I'm just saying they don't really care one way or the other.
Ooo makes me want to put up a scan of my Level 3 inspection All mine lists though is 'No record of duty status', seeing how I was 3000 over on my tandems, GA doesn't let you slide tandems to make it legal, asked for my log book, which was 2 days behind, so I said I must of left it at my sisters house in FL earlyer in the day, took a $150 ticket hit for it, but oh well.
That is straight silly, no commodity listed?! What an ahole
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Commodity or BOL numbers are a requirement. The driver had the previous commodity listed,just didn't list the new.
As far as the overweight this was the conversation.
Is the air scale broke?
No
Why didn't you slide it then?
I flipped the switch on the dash and it didn't unlock the trailer.
Was 50' to far to walk back and pull the air switch manually?
Give me the ticket. I'll pay it.
All mine lists though is 'No record of duty status', seeing how I was 3000 over on my tandems, GA doesn't let you slide tandems to make it legal, asked for my log book, which was 2 days behind, so I said I must of left it at my sisters house in FL earlyer in the day, took a $150 ticket hit for it, but oh well.
