Warning to all EZ Pass users going through Ore
 

If you are driving through the state of Oregon and have an EZPASS in your truck you sure dont want to to go through a weigh station without your log book being right. We went through 2 set of scales on I-84 heading west to Portland and both times the EZPass started making a beeping noice for the first time ever. We wer,nt sure why it was beeping only when we went through the scales so the next morning we informed dispatch about it and he said that another driver had gone through the Oregon scales going west and had the same thing happen with his EZpass. The only difference was the driver on his way heading back east was over on his hours, had fixed his log book to drive longer and this time the weigh station pulled him in and busted him with violations up the butt. Oregon is able to detect on there computers through ezpass if you are over hours. Lucky for us we we didnt go back east through the scales till the next morning after taking 10 off in the sleeper so we had no issues. So if your gonna cheat dont do it in Oregon with an EZPASS in your truck or they will get ya. We dont know of any other states that can happen in ,but if anyone knows of any let us all know !!!!!!!!!

EZ-Pass? Sure it wasn't Pre-Pass? EZ-Pass is for tolls and that would sound like what DOT is doing at the scales is illegal by essientally hacking into EZ-Pass' system. Pre-Pass is for the scales which would make more sense to them using that to get you.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I sure don't think they could get that info from EZ Pass. Hell my transactions don't show up on the website for 3 days. And that would defintetly violate some type of privacy laws wouldn't it? Prepass maybe, but according to Prepass those records are not supposed to used for that.

Believe me this was Ezpass that is used for toll roads. and yes it doesnt sound legal,but Oregon is using it to their advantage. the green light on our EZpass came on and then started beeping just before and while going through there scales. We dont have pre pass so not to get confused it was definityly EZpass that triggered the scales. The scale house also told the driver that got busted they have it set up in there computer system.

When i got pulled over in MD coming from NYC at the scales for being overweight, he asked me for my log book and toll receipts and i told him i had an Ez Pass and he took the license plate number and my log book and went inside the building... Do i know if he checked or not? not sure, but my logs were correct and i didnt receive anytype of citation outside of the overweight citation..

It seems to me this was brought up in a different forum.

First off, EZPass is PREPass is EZPass; mine is both. Regardless, WA and OR are the first two states that will integrate all of EZ/PRE's wonderful features. (I believe CA is next.) Among the features is the ability to track you from place to place intrastate as well as state to state using sensors placed all over, not just at/before scales or tolls. If you're heading south on the 205 from WA to OR, look at the north side of a center abutment on one of the bridges between the Old 99 and the WA 14 exits, there's a reader reading both sides. There's another on NB I-5 reading from the comedian but I don't remember exactly where it is. That's two I can place off the top of my head and I've seen many others.

Suffice it to say, if they read you in Ashland, OR at 0000 and in Blaine, WA at 1500, you're over 14 and busted. If they read you in Wilsonville at 0400, you're busted. You can't legally go 270 +/- miles in 4 hours. They may not know today if you team or train but they will the next time they call you in and update your screen.

I was in CO about a month ago. I came in one way, left, came in another and, after my fourth bypass, I was called in and inside. My information wasn't "complete" and he just wanted to fill in a few blanks. I saw the screen with all it's information about me, my license, my truck, the effective and expiration dates for all my permits, etc. He explained that if something expires, the next time I approach a participating scale (It should be in place throughout the lower 48 by the end of the year) or a patrol car runs my plate or truck number, I'll be pulled in or over, updates will be verified and I probably won't be called in or pulled over again until something else expires. If something has been overlooked, there won't be any discussion. They'll have to write the ticket, period. "Let the big guns sort it out, right?" Eventually, every issuing authority will simultaneously update the system so, unless I'm close or overweight, I should never be called in again. Eventually.

So, never mind just driving; are you ready for: Miss a child support payment? Busted. A little late with your tax return? Busted. Tore up the parking ticket in ME? Busted. Someone claims you were driving aggressively? C'mon in and let's talk about it. We really want to hear your side of it. Did somebody mention your name . . or a name that sounds like yours . . Did the facial recognition software or credit card reader at Walmart or Pilot identify you as buying the Bud 79 pack? Between sensors in your CMV?

Say hello to your big brother and welcome to 1984!

So what your saying is, drop the EZ Pass and make it tougher on them keeping up with you?

It's not my choice. Swift likes it so I have it and, personally, I prefer to bypass scales and to not loan out money for tolls. It doesn't really matter, though. Keeping with OR as the original example, if you don't have it, the scale house guy is keying in your plate as you do the 3 mph roll. If their system says something doesn't add up, you'll get called in. You might be making it a little more difficult for them but the system works the same either way. Once the new plate readers, etc., are installed, the guy won't be sitting there keying plates, he'll be at the counter handing out the system generated tickets.

Sounds to me like I picked a very good time to retire. I don't have to put up with any of that anymore. Good luck, guys and girls.

OR.... you could run legal

Yeah I got you on that CD, just saying that if your someone like an O/O who has an EZ-Pass, you could drop it.

Fredog, wasn't hinting against that, just that I don't like having Big Brother watching me even if I am doing everything by the book.

ALL scales record the time you pass whether or not you have pre-pass or ez-pass or anything kind of pass, if you doubt that, just ask Headborg

I've run with Pre-pass, and I've run without it. I also ran legal, and logged it as I ran it. (even when the owner of the company tried to tell me how to "beat" the system.)

But, when the scale was closed, the pre-pass would still go beep, and give me the green light to by-pass. I'd rather run without it for the simple reason, if they're going to know I went by their scale, they're going to have to be "ON THE JOB" just like I was to get that information. They don't deserve that information if they're home in bed while I have to be working.

Just my way of thinking.

When we came back by the scales going east they were closed and the beep did,nt happen with the EZpass. WE just figured it was becouse they were closed and did,nt have there computers on. But who really knows anymore. Yea I agree BIG BROTHER has his big eye on every one of us.

I have never seen an ez pass that beeps, mine doesnt make any sound ever

You know those "metal cookie boxes"...
The ones that have a nice fitting metal lid on them...

Put the EZ-pass inside and close the lid when the scale is closed.
They don't get any signal from it. They won't have any way of knowing when you went through there, or if you even went by.:D:thumbsup:
(aluminum attache' case also works.)

Well... you got that cheap WalMart version made in China.

Mine would beep.
I think it gave a WiFi audio link to the Scalehouse too,
so I always said rude things loudly and mentioned I was driving Commando! :mad:

They read the posts here too. :mad:

some beep, some dont....

Our EZ pass had never beeped before it went through the Oregon scales nor has it beeped since. We did'nt even know it would make a noise. To our surprise it did as we approched the scale house . Only by finding out from dispatch did we find out that Oregon scales had busted another driver by collecting information violations through the EZ pass device and there computers.

I was thinking...

I have not seen anything from MYTHBUSTER in a while...

But, I'll bet he's still lurking.

they can track your prepass /truck by looking on their computer when your preass transponder came through the preass equipped site ...so if you get recorded in waverly comming through licoln ,ne and got pulled into the utah POE only 12-14 hours later and you don't run team well you're either speeding or over hours ...they were only looking at the day ,but were supposed 2 start going by the hour...I'm paperless now, so I don't care...They can't know you're violationg the HOS simply by the prepass ,but they can know if you falsified a log by comparing transponder times with logs...ouch

mine never did, of course, my prepass did

Oregon does not use EZ Pass or PrePass. They use Norpass. So does Wa and 7 other states use Norpass vs Prepass

In going from Dallas to Seattle and back a couple of weeks ago, I saw that my Prepass was activating for the first time as well. I was a little puzzled because, as Nationwyde stated, OR and WA use a different system. So I guess they were hacking into the Prepass system. Don't know about the legality of it, but this discussion solves the mystery for me. I use paperless logs as well.