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eric1 09-24-2007 09:42 PM

NATIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION PUSH NOW UNDERWAY!!
 
UNINSPECTED Mexican trucks now given access to our ENTIRE nation---that's the last straw!!

A serious effort is now underway to call for a National Constitutional Convention as authorized under Article V of the Constitution. The ultimate aim of this Convention, as envisioned, will be the dismantlement of the federal government in its present configuration, and then reassemblement at the regional level. In essence, 10(# flexible) independent republics will be created on American soil(state borders intact), each having the Constitution and Bill of Rights as the basis of their new governments. Liken this to the breakup of AT&T into the baby bells some years back. This action has become necessary to diffuse the power of the largely self-serving globalist oligarchy which has hijacked our federal government, bringing this nation to the verge of economic and social ruin, while GREATLY compromising our national security. It's time for AUTONOMOUS REGIONAL GOVERNMENT!! See link below for more info:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nation...alConvention06

Twilight Flyer 09-24-2007 09:57 PM

While you won't find any disagreement from me that the federal government is screwed up, jumping on the tin-foil hat brigade bandwagon isn't going to win you a lot of praise. Good luck with your first post....you'll be needing it, I think.

eric1 09-25-2007 03:38 AM

Well they laughed and mocked Pat Buchanan in the early 90s when he first proposed building a border fence with Mexico, Twilight Flyer. People aren't laughing anymore though.
At first glance what I am proposing may be viewed as far out, but when you study it, it is based on common sense, and most importantly, I believe it is DOABLE/VIABLE.

Truckfam 09-25-2007 05:37 AM

I agree, but it won't happen. The wealthy globalists are too powerful. Why do you think certain presidents are dead, and Perot backed out of his presidential campaign. They have been planning things tirelessly for a very long time. Things are going the way they want them to.

The only thing that may stop them is if all, and I mean all Americans stand up against them. There are too many who are apathetic and just want to watch their latest show on the sheeple tube.

Twilight, don't knock the tin foil hatters. You just may be surprised at how many there actually are, and have some very good evidence to back up some of their theories.

If Ron Paul makes it, I'll vote for him. He is already getting hit hard. I'm afraid something is going to happen to him like it did to Perot, he will be so manipulated that he will not be able to do much, or he will end up like Kennedy for some of the same reasons Kennedy died.

Twilight Flyer 09-25-2007 01:39 PM

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Twilight, don't knock the tin foil hatters. You just may be surprised at how many there actually are, and have some very good evidence to back up some of their theories.
I don't knock the theories or the reasoning behind it at all. I question the reality of it. I agree that there needs to be changes. But proposing to split the United States up into small Republics is, if you'll forgive me, ludicrous.

eric1 09-26-2007 02:39 AM

What makes my plan VIABLE, Truckfam, is that I pit the greedy state politicians against the greedy ones at the federal level. My amendment proposals include sending social security tax payments to state trust funds and returning all federal lands to the states. Military assets will also return to state/regional control. States will salivate when they realize what they have the potential to achieve. The strategy quite simple is to divide and then conquer/reform. I'm not naive as to what has to be overcome.

Fozzy 09-26-2007 12:00 PM

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Fozzy 09-26-2007 12:03 PM

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09-26-2007 05:53 PM

didn't the united states split once before???? i am pretty sure it did. for the same reasons as now...more or less. the southern states felt that the us government was taking away there rights (to own slaves for those that have not figured out). i think we had a "civil war" over it. hmmm, i wander if it will work this time around??

Doctor Who 09-26-2007 07:03 PM

Doubt it highly. Not enough people would care enough to join the revolt!

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But proposing to split the United States up into small Republics
Hmm, isn't that what the Republic of Virginia and the Republic of Ohio did???

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Well they laughed and mocked Pat Buchanan in the early 90s when he first proposed building a border fence with Mexico, Twilight Flyer. People aren't laughing anymore though.
Really??? Someone should propose building a fence around Buchanan!

eric1 10-01-2007 02:56 AM

That horse isn't dead, Fozzy! He was taking a nap, and the owner simply is attempting to wake him up! I'm doing the same thing! :wink:

All the best to your son too. God bless him.

eric1 10-01-2007 02:59 AM

Just because violence erupted before, jedfxg, doesn't mean it will happen again. Times and circumstances change, and indeed, we've matured as a nation. Also, with the U.N. and international media, I think the federal government would be very foolish if it attempted to utilize force to thwart the will of the states and people this time around.

eric1 10-01-2007 03:01 AM

Actually, DoctorWho, a Constitutional Convention is driven by the state legislatures, not the citizenry. Obviously, popular support is desired and certainly would help, but it is the state legislatures who are the KEY players in the Convention process.

Twilight Flyer 10-01-2007 02:03 PM

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and indeed, we've matured as a nation.
You're kidding, right? :shock:

eric1 10-02-2007 12:08 AM

No, not kidding. In many important respects we have----post Civil War---emphasis on human rights, international diplomacy. We overcame a period of severe turmoil in the 60's with mimimal bloodshed on the homefront. Of course, when you talk about maturity, there are many contexts, social, political, economic. I suppose I meant it more in the political sense. From a social point of view, we still have a way to go as evidenced by Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and Lindsay Lohan. :?

Doctor Who 10-04-2007 03:16 PM

Didn't this same nonsense happen when Canadian trucks were allowed to travel U.S. roads some time back. The same "battle cry" was let out.

The rates are going to drop!!! American truckers were going to lose their jobs... Ad Nauseum :roll:

Just vision this: One if by I-10!!!
Two if by I-35!!!

Then the galant messenger climbs aboard his Mexican made Navistar and drives off into the night screaming into the microphone of his converted 10 meter radio: "THE MEXICANS ARE COMING, THE MEXICANS ARE COMING!!!!"

greg3564 10-04-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Who
Didn't this same nonsense happen when Canadian trucks were allowed to travel U.S. roads some time back. The same "battle cry" was let out.

The rates are going to drop!!! American truckers were going to lose their jobs... Ad Nauseum :roll:

Just vision this: One if by I-10!!!
Two if by I-35!!!

Then the galant messenger climbs aboard his Mexican made Navistar and drives off into the night screaming into the microphone of his converted 10 meter radio: "THE MEXICANS ARE COMING, THE MEXICANS ARE COMING!!!!"

While the same issues may have been brought up with the Canadians, there is a huge difference in pay. Canadian drivers are more in line with American driver in pay and benefits. Shippers have already gone on record as saying they will increase their loads to Mexican ports, more so than now, as a direct result in savings that can be realized with Mexican drivers making substantially less cpm.

My main issue with all of this is the fact that we're giving more jobs to foreigners. Most manufacturing jobs are gone, along with jobs such as call centers going over seas. And now we want to let foreigners into the U.S. to take jobs. It sets a bad precedent.

10-05-2007 03:35 PM

i thought is was voted on and all of the funding was taken away for this program? why are we still bitching about it? manufacturing jobs are going overseas due to the high prices lazy as unions that constantly demand more for less. and i thought the mexicans can bring a load in and get a load and go straight back. why the big deal? does anyone here wanna take a load to mexico? or go to mexicoto get a load and bring back? i know i don't. jersey twicea week is bad enough for me.

Doctor Who 10-05-2007 06:28 PM

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does anyone here wanna take a load to mexico? or go to mexicoto get a load and bring back?
Been there and got the Sombrero as a parting gift!

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jersey twicea week is bad enough for me.
And just what is wrong with JOISEY???

Twilight Flyer 10-05-2007 09:23 PM

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And just what is wrong with JOISEY???
Mostly white vans with non-English speaking drivers. 8)

Doctor Who 10-06-2007 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
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And just what is wrong with JOISEY???
Mostly white vans with non-English speaking drivers. 8)

Wrong!!! It was in Queens, New York..

Just across the river from the Garbage, oooppps, I mean Garden State!!!

greg3564 10-06-2007 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jedfxg
i thought is was voted on and all of the funding was taken away for this program? why are we still bitching about it? manufacturing jobs are going overseas due to the high prices lazy as unions that constantly demand more for less. and i thought the mexicans can bring a load in and get a load and go straight back. why the big deal? does anyone here wanna take a load to mexico? or go to mexicoto get a load and bring back? i know i don't. jersey twicea week is bad enough for me.

Both the House and Senate have drafted legislation to kill all funding, but Bush has said he will veto it.

Truckfam 11-16-2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eric1
What makes my plan VIABLE, Truckfam, is that I pit the greedy state politicians against the greedy ones at the federal level. My amendment proposals include sending social security tax payments to state trust funds and returning all federal lands to the states. Military assets will also return to state/regional control. States will salivate when they realize what they have the potential to achieve. The strategy quite simple is to divide and then conquer/reform. I'm not naive as to what has to be overcome.

Wouldn't work. You're missing the bigger picture and the bigger players. If things are going to get turned around for the better, Ron Paul has some very good ideas and plans. Get the currency back in the government's hands instead of federal reserve - which is not owned by the US government, but by international bankers. Have the dollar backed by the gold standard again. Get back to the constitution and its original and intended meaning. Actually reduce government, reduce government spending, and cut taxes, and not just talk about it. This is just the beginning.

It's not like his ideas are really radical or any thing. It is just those who run things at the top don't want to loose their power, money, or ability to play both sides of the fence so to speak. Those people want to win at all costs, no matter who they hurt, or who they back stab even if it means back stabbing their own citizens.


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