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Old 08-22-2008, 11:32 PM
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I'm just a bit curious.. I see the word "socialist" being thrown around a lot. Now, I don't support it in any way, although I'm sure I'll be accused of such for asking this question... but do any of you even understand the basics of it? Because most people I've asked this question of don't, and, judging by some of the applications I've seen of it in some of the threads posted on this forum recently, I'd feel inclined to believe it's more the same here.
No. They know that "socialist," and "Marxist" are bad words because Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have told them so. It doesn't matter whether or not they actually fit the person or situation being discussed.

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Old 08-22-2008, 11:49 PM
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Socialism is destined for failure. Even if you have the same system worldwide it will ultimately fail. You can put any label on it you wish, but socialism or any of it's variables will NEVER quash the human spirit to be free and excel. There will ALWAYS be those who strive to achieve and better themselves. I think human nature strives for freedom. There are those who may attempt to suppress human nature under the guise of socialism, communism, etc., but it won't be accomplished. Just look what has happened worldwide. Every form of socialism has failed. Russia, China and others ultimately come back to capitalism and freedom. Things are not completely free in either of these countries, but they are much better. It is in the interest of both societies to have a free, capitalist society. A country withers under socialism, but prospers under capitalism. The greater the government controls the less productive a society becomes. The more freedoms a society has the greater their productivity.
The Scandinavian countries are all highly "socialistic," and are all doing very well. Don't confuse socialism with totalitarianism -- they are not the same thing, nor does the former necessarily lead to the latter. The United States of America is rapidly approaching totalitarianism -- but that totalitarianism will be dictated by massive capitalist monopolies operating in "Public/Private Partnerships" with the government.

Socialism is not anathema to freedom; neither does Capitalism guarantee it. Monopolistic Capitalism, in which massive corporations control all aspects of human interaction, is no better than a completely Socialist system with equal control. In both cases, the PEOPLE have only that freedom granted them by those in power. In other words, not much.
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:46 AM
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Anybody BUT Obama!
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Obama seems to favor the conserve and tax our way out of the fuel price problem, and that means the 55mph nationwide speed limit again. I hate the 55 mph states enough without having them all be 55. Ick.
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