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"The Supreme Court ruled for the first time Monday that the Second Amendment provides all Americans a fundamental right to bear arms, a long-sought victory for gun rights advocates who have chafed at federal, state and local efforts to restrict gun ownership. "
Gun rights case: Supreme Court rules that all Americans have fundamental right to bear arms |
Originally Posted by cdswans
(Post 482994)
"The Supreme Court ruled for the first time Monday that the Second Amendment provides all Americans a fundamental right to bear arms, a long-sought victory for gun rights advocates who have chafed at federal, state and local efforts to restrict gun ownership. "
Gun rights case: Supreme Court rules that all Americans have fundamental right to bear arms |
Originally Posted by robertt
(Post 483000)
It's pretty scary to think we were just ONE vote away from it going the other way. :eek1: The vote should have been 9-0. :patriot:
Some of these people apparently still cannot read the Constitution. :mad: I can't help but wonder what would have happened if this new nominee for a supreme jurist would do if given the same choice. She has no track record and no one really knows how she would rule on certain issues. My guess is that she will be confirmed. |
I dunno that she will be confirmed, the Libs and Conservatives have a lot of questions about her past. She claims she will give everything a fair view and be impartial...........................Unfortunately her past shows she is more like a weasel/politician who will say one thing while doing the opposite.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
(Post 483012)
Some of these people apparently still cannot read the Constitution. :mad: I can't help but wonder what would have happened if this new nominee for a supreme jurist would do if given the same choice. She has no track record and no one really knows how she would rule on certain issues. My guess is that she will be confirmed.
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Originally Posted by DaveP
(Post 483030)
I've seen articles today saying she leans towards the Constitution being a "living" document....I take that to mean she believes it is subject to change if it fits an agenda.
It sounds like Al Gore. I heard a little bit of the hearings when she was questioned by one Senator. He asked her if she thought that the Commerce Clause allowed the government to tell the American people what they can eat. She NEVER answered his question. :hellno: |
One of the neighbors, here in FL, carries a single-shot .25 in his shirt pocket. It looks like a ball point pen, and has a 1 1/2 inch barrel. He also does have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Now, want to hear the real surprise?
He's been checked out by cops 4 different times, and they did not see it in his shirt pocket. They checked all his other pockets and wrists and pant-legs, but never looked in his shirt pocket.:lol: He's also the one that told me about the supreme court ruling. And, I agree that it should have been 9-0 in favor. It's a bit odd, though. You now have more of a right to carry a weapon, than to have a driver's license.:roll: |
When it comes to the Constitution, the 2nd amendment is, by far, the most important of all of our rights. Why? Without it, the government would have total control over the people. With the people having the right to keep and bear arms, it keeps the government from completely running over the rest of our rights. If the government took away the peoples right to bear arms, what would prevent them from then taking away our right to free speech? What about illegal search and seizure? They could do as they please.
This ruling actually gives me hope that there's still a few people out there that understand and believe in the rights of the American people as laid down by our founding fathers!!! |
Originally Posted by Windwalker
(Post 483062)
It's a bit odd, though. You now have more of a right to carry a weapon, than to have a driver's license.:roll:
One thing to add to this - I do believe in the control of firearms, meaning who can have them. I also believe that there needs to be a tighter background check, as well as mandatory safety/training classes associated with carrying and owning a weapon. |
Originally Posted by Malaki86
(Post 483064)
How so? Where in the Constitution does it give you the right to operate a vehicle? A drivers license is a privilege, not a right.
I disagree that a drivers license is a privilege. A privilege is something that is given. If a drivers license is a privilege then so is a college degree or high school diploma. All require you to prove proficiency through testing. That is not a privilege. Some states have used this as an excuse to expand their ability to force people to give up their right to self incrimination when it comes to alcohol testing. By calling it a privilege they are able to force people to either give evidence against themselves or lose their license and be imprisoned. It enables the state to circumvent the constitution by calling it a privilege. On the other hand it is not a right that is specifically mentioned in the Constitution. I would argue that it is an earned right that you have proven proficiency. One thing to add to this - I do believe in the control of firearms, meaning who can have them. I also believe that there needs to be a tighter background check, as well as mandatory safety/training classes associated with carrying and owning a weapon. The only thing that the government controls with gun control laws are law abiding citizens. These feel good laws do nothing to make people safer. These laws do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns. All they do is raise revenue for the government and tell them who owns guns and where to go to get them when the time comes. That is what registration does. Until recent years we never had the number of gun related deaths and we didn't have to register our guns, take training courses or buy permits to carry a gun. We don't have a gun problem. We have a morality problem. Guns don't act on their own. Someone MUST pull the trigger. If you eliminated all the guns in this country people would still be killing other people. If you then got rid of all the knives you would not prevent people from killing other people. In fact, if you got rid of all the things that can be used as a weapon you still will not prevent people from killing. They will still be able to use their hands to kill. Gun control doesn't work to reduce crime. We have seen that through out history. States that have had the strongest gun control laws have the highest violent crime. States that have the least restrictions on gun ownership have the lowest violent crime rates. Until the real reason for violence is addressed we can expect to see more violent crime. Morals are taught by parents, not the government. Until parents start parenting again, I don't expect to see any reduction in violent crime. If gun control worked then we should not have any violent crimes. When I grew up we didn't have all these ridiculous gun control laws. Everyone I knew had guns in the home, and there was no need to keep them locked up. In fact, most homes weren't even locked back then. According to some people we should all have been running around killing one another. The reality is that we were taught morals by our parents and that there were some things that we didn't do, such as shoot people because we didn't like them or what they said. We were taught that guns were used for hunting and self protection. Gun control doesn't work. Gun control will NEVER work. If the government can succeed in brainwashing people to believe that the only way that they can be safe is to take guns away from everyone, then we will be in serious trouble. It won't stop crime. It will not prevent criminals from having and using guns. It will also not keep an over zealous government from using THEIR guns on the citizenry. By the way, there is NOTHING in the Constitution which allows the government to control or regulate guns or gun ownership. They have successfully used the "Commerce Clause" to control many things which they are not Constitutionally allowed to regulate. |
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