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ironeagle_2006 02-20-2010 09:15 AM

Once you get past all the computer crap they are all Nuts and Bolts that hold them together. Heck I can still change the Plugs on my 04 Minivan may be a PIA to do the back 3 but I can do them. The Fuel injectors are not hard. Worst thing to do on mine is the Alt. Sucker is by the firewall and hard to get to but doable. Could be worse Chrysler has tried alot of WEIRD crap recently like the Waterpump driven by the Oil PUMP 3.2 liter V-6 was that mistake. For that when the seals went out instead of just a pump you needed a NEW ENGINE. How do I know this called working for GEFCS when that hit the fan. We had IIRC 2K Dodge Stratus with the 3.2 all of them with the 3.2 and in 4 months we bought motors for ALL OF THEM.

thebaldeagle655 02-20-2010 11:32 AM

What I liked about it was the CNN segment about the sticking throttles where they told the public to hit the brake as hard as you can, slip the transmission into neutral and turn the ignition key off.

Hmm, last time I looked, turning a key all the way off would not only cause your power steering and brakes to fail but also lock your steering wheel preventing you from steering it safely. Probably would cause more deaths than a sticking throttle!

mommee 02-20-2010 11:57 AM

i owned an 09 corolla. my husband and i were very happy with the car, then all hell broke lose in the news. what gets me is why they had to stop production completely, if it was suppose to be an easy fix. that one had me scratching my head. needless to say, we did traded it in. i know that there may only have been a slight chance of the gas pedal accelerating on me, but no one in the family felt safe enough to put my kids in it. so now we have a subaru.

Windwalker 02-20-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WildK9 (Post 475469)
I'll just continue buying my vintage & antique vehicles. ;)

I've never had too many recalls to worry about. :p

One of the very best vehicles I ever owned was a '77 Ford, LTD. Bought it for $150, and the engine didn't have to stop and get parked to mark it's territory. I spent $380 on the engine and did the rebuild myself. When I got done, I was able to cruise 70 mph down the interstate, and get 32 mpg with a 400 cid and an auto transmission. And, that was the full sized LTD, not the smaller version. The "BIG BOAT". :thumbsup:


Now, you take a look at the price you pay for a new car. Spend that on one of the old relics, and you have 100 times the car they have in the showrooms today. But, the insurance companies may really mess with you when it comes to getting coverage on it.:thumbsdown::moon:

If I could find one today, I'd snap it up in a second, without a second thought. Monte Carlo was another good one. But, the price... You won't get one for $150 anymore.

Orangetxguy 02-20-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Windwalker (Post 475490)
One of the very best vehicles I ever owned was a '77 Ford, LTD. Bought it for $150, and the engine didn't have to stop and get parked to mark it's territory. I spent $380 on the engine and did the rebuild myself. When I got done, I was able to cruise 70 mph down the interstate, and get 32 mpg with a 400 cid and an auto transmission. And, that was the full sized LTD, not the smaller version. The "BIG BOAT". :thumbsup:


Now, you take a look at the price you pay for a new car. Spend that on one of the old relics, and you have 100 times the car they have in the showrooms today. But, the insurance companies may really mess with you when it comes to getting coverage on it.:thumbsdown::moon:

If I could find one today, I'd snap it up in a second, without a second thought. Monte Carlo was another good one. But, the price... You won't get one for $150 anymore.

I had a 76 Monte Carlo. Hated the damn thing! Those swivel seats really sucked and were uncomfortable after a couple hundrd miles of driving!
It really sucked after the Girlfriend tried to knock down a power pole with it. :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff:

1catfish 02-20-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 475468)
I agree 100% catfish. There's no reason for the government to demand a recall just because they've sold cars with throttles that are sticking wide open and killing people!!!

spoken like a true g.m. worm.

Jackrabbit379 02-20-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thebaldeagle655 (Post 475488)
What I liked about it was the CNN segment about the sticking throttles where they told the public to hit the brake as hard as you can, slip the transmission into neutral and turn the ignition key off.

Hmm, last time I looked, turning a key all the way off would not only cause your power steering and brakes to fail but also lock your steering wheel preventing you from steering it safely. Probably would cause more deaths than a sticking throttle!

It makes perfect sense. Think about it. After turning off the ignition and hitting the brake, the driver will realize that the car is out of control. Unable to steer, nor stop. Thus; taking their minds off of the 'hanging throttle'. :p :D

Mr. Ford95 02-21-2010 01:46 AM

You guys seem to be missing the point of WHY the US and others are now after Toyota. This comes straight from a friend who's with the NHTSA, Toyota was made aware of these problems back in 2000, they paid the NHTSA lip service by saying they were aware of it and would fix it which has pissed off the NHTSA. The NHTSA paid them little attention afterwards and assumed it was taken care of. Flash forward nearly 10 years, suddenly a rash of the same problems come out once again, the NHTSA starts checking into it and discovers that it's the same exact problem as in 2000 and it has not been fixed or even attempted to be fixed. Toyota feigned ignorance when consumer's came to them complaining of the problem. When the NHTSA got tough with them and threatened to shut them down in the US they suddenly snapped to attention. Now it's come out that not 5 people have been killed by the throttle issue but 34 people have been killed and Toyota knew that but covered it up. Because of that the NHTSA is looking over their vehicles with a fine tooth comb to find any and all defects they can. Toyota has nobody to blame but themselves for this mess, they agreed to fix the original issue's to get us off their backs but as soon as we walked out the door they tossed the fixes into the trash. This isn't a simple stuck throttle because of the floor mat it's a software issue in the brain box. When your on cruise control and bump the speed up only for the car to continue to accelerate it's not a floor mat causing it.

You did not see Ford covering up their exploding tire issue for 10 years and telling the consumers they were full of BS with their complaints. The cruise control causing fire's in the F150's, they didn't cover that up once they were told what was going on. That is the problem with Toyota, they covered this stuff up hoping it would go away on it's own.

thebaldeagle655 02-21-2010 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 (Post 475534)
You guys seem to be missing the point of WHY the US and others are now after Toyota. This comes straight from a friend who's with the NHTSA, Toyota was made aware of these problems back in 2000, they paid the NHTSA lip service by saying they were aware of it and would fix it which has pissed off the NHTSA. The NHTSA paid them little attention afterwards and assumed it was taken care of. Flash forward nearly 10 years, suddenly a rash of the same problems come out once again, the NHTSA starts checking into it and discovers that it's the same exact problem as in 2000 and it has not been fixed or even attempted to be fixed. Toyota feigned ignorance when consumer's came to them complaining of the problem. When the NHTSA got tough with them and threatened to shut them down in the US they suddenly snapped to attention. Now it's come out that not 5 people have been killed by the throttle issue but 34 people have been killed and Toyota knew that but covered it up. Because of that the NHTSA is looking over their vehicles with a fine tooth comb to find any and all defects they can. Toyota has nobody to blame but themselves for this mess, they agreed to fix the original issue's to get us off their backs but as soon as we walked out the door they tossed the fixes into the trash. This isn't a simple stuck throttle because of the floor mat it's a software issue in the brain box. When your on cruise control and bump the speed up only for the car to continue to accelerate it's not a floor mat causing it.

You did not see Ford covering up their exploding tire issue for 10 years and telling the consumers they were full of BS with their complaints. The cruise control causing fire's in the F150's, they didn't cover that up once they were told what was going on. That is the problem with Toyota, they covered this stuff up hoping it would go away on it's own.

Remember too that there are always 3 sides to every story? In this case, Toyotas, The governments and the TRUTH! (which we will never hear!) Personally right now, I tend to believe Toyota that they did attempt to fix the problem and it again reared it's ugly head in another form. I've been lied to by the government too many times to believe anything they tell me!

Mr. Ford95 02-21-2010 08:51 AM

Let's not forget that in this "Bash Toyota" Honda has had a recall for deadly airbags. Upon deployment they have too much pressure behind them which can seriously injure a person or kill them. Chevy has been having problems with their full size pickups brakes not quite working properly. Not sure if they have taken care of it but it's an odd site when you see a Chevy dealer's shop have a lot full of pickups with the front end bashed in on every single one. Toyota is grabbing all the headlines because their deal hasn't been limited to the stuck throttles, it's been discovered on models affected by the throttle issue that brakes, steering and cruise control issue's are also there. The hit's just keep coming for them with a new issue weekly it seems so they keep staying in the news for bad news.

Eagle, Toyota came out and said the NHTSA is right with their story for the most part. Their CEO admitted that they knew about this throttle issue years ago while he did not give an exact date he did acknowledge the fact that the NHTSA did alert them to the issue a while ago. That is what makes it worse in the public's perception of Toyota with him admitting that, the perception is that they tried to cover it up and that perception is exactly right in this instance. I do not own a Toyota but hearing that would make me think long and hard about buying one in the future even though the CEO said he himself would watch over the QC from now on.


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