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As some of y'all may know I got a job servicing trucks and maybe hauling asphalt. It's not official yet cause they still need to talk to the shop foreman and plus they are trying to relocate cause they outgrowing the current office and shop.

That's great to get your foot in the door. I hope they let you know soon and that, when you get it, you enjoy it.

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Double I'm going to give you some tips on hauling asphalt.

1. When they go to hollering to let off the brakes ease off them but don't let your foot completly off other wise you can make quite a mess.

2. DON'T BUMP THE PAVER. They tend to get somwhat upset when you do that.

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Rubbin's Racin'.

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:lol:

Have you ever been on a paver? It has a feet per minuet gauge and it tops out a 246FPM. :shock:

I forgot to clarify, it's liquid asphalt in a tanker not a dump bucket. My bad! The company told me it's NOT hazmat.

they would be wrong,but who am I to say.

Uh..... Yes it is..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

U.S. DOT HAZARDOUS MATERIALS CLASSIFICATION: When offered for transportation or transported in bulk containers (greater than 119 gallons) at or above Flash Point, the proper shipping description is as follows:
HOT Asphalt, 3, NA1999, PG III



More fantasy...... :lol: :lol:

Sorry Double L but liquid asphalt is hazmat. Tack however is not.

Well the company told me it's not considered hazmat. They should know since they haul it!

Mar 24, 2004



Mr. Mark Finarty Reference No. 04-0052
Dane County Risk Management
210 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
Room 425 CCB
Madison, WI 53703

Dear Mr. Finarty:

This is in response to your letter requesting clarification of the requirements under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to the transportation of asphalt. Specifically, you ask whether placarding and marking are required for three scenarios as presented in your letter. You also ask whether a commercial driver’s license (CDL) requires a hazardous materials endorsement for the driver of a vehicle transporting asphalt. Your scenarios and questions are paraphrased and answered below.

Question: Are placards, markings, and hazardous material endorsements on CDLs required1for the following three scenarios?

Scenario #1. A medium curing asphalt is being transported by highway “in bulk up to 1200 gallons.� The material has a flashpoint of 100 EF - 140 EF and is transported at a temperature of approximately 250 EF.

Answer: A bulk packaging containing a Class 3 elevated temperature material must display FLAMMABLE placards on both sides and both ends (see § 172.504(a)). In addition, a bulk packaging containing an elevated temperature material must display the HOT marking on two opposing sides, as specified in § 173.325. It is not clear from your letter whether “in bulk up to 1200 gallons� refers to the amount of asphalt or the capacity of the packaging. If the bulk packaging has a capacity of 1,000 gallons or more, it must be marked with the identification number on both sides and both ends (see § 172.302(a)(1)). If the bulk packaging has a capacity of less than 1,000 gallons, it must be marked with the identification number on two opposing sides (see § 172.3 02 (a) (2)).

With regard to whether a hazardous materials endorsement is required on a CDL for a driver transporting this material, the answer is yes. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSR), 49 CFR Part 383,issued by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), address the requirements for hazardous material endorsements on CDLs. Section 383.93 requires a hazardous material endorsement for drivers transporting a hazardous material that is required to be placarded. For additional information on hazardous material endorsements, please contact FMCSA Headquarters in Washington, D.C. at 202/366-1790 or FMCSA’s field office in Madison, Wisconsin at 608/829-7530.



Scenario #2. An asphalt emulsion is being transported by highway “in bulk up to 2000 gallons.� The material has a flashpoint greater than 212 EF and is transported at a temperature of approximately 160 EF to, 200 EF.

Answer: Under § 172.504(f)(9), for domestic transportation, a bulk packaging containing a Class 9 elevated temperature material does not require a Class 9 placard; however, the appropriate identification number for the material must be marked on both sides and both ends of the bulk packaging or on two opposing sides, depending on the capacity of the packaging (see Scenario #1). The identification number may be displayed on a Class 9 placard, an orange panel, or a white-square-on-point configuration. In addition, for elevated temperature materials, the HOT marking must be displayed on two opposing sides of the bulk packaging, as specified in § 173.325. For information on hazardous material endorsements, see the answer to Scenario #1.

Scenario #3: A rubber modified asphalt is being transported by highway “in bulk up to 400 gallons.� The material has a flashpoint of 424 EF and is transported at a temperature of 300 EF to 400 EF.

Answer: The answers to Scenario #2 apply.

I hope this information is helpful. Please contact this office if you need further assistance.

Sincerely,



Hattie L. Mitchell
Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards

172.504

As a matter of fact I seen a DKD truck with an asphalt trailer go by I didn't see any flammable placards but the only ones I seen said HOT on them.

We haul our tack with asphalt tankers.

You are right however on the liquid asphalt.

I guess those who have done that type of work and those that run Hazmat for a living are all wrong then...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

But an 18 y/o who only has a CDL permit is correct....... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your stories get more and more outlandish....

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I said that was what the company told me, I didn't say it wasn't hazmat, the company said it!!!

I didn't ask what type of asphalt it was cause I didn't even think about it at the time. Isn't tack non hazmat? If it is then that is the type of asphalt they were talking about then.

Tack is non hazmat.

Tack is not liquid asphalt though. There are few differnt types of liquid asphalt but I can't rember what they all are.

Ok that is what they were talking about! The confusion came into play when I asked someone about hauling asphalt in a tanker and they assumed it was liquid asphalt. Thanks for clearing it up!

x2. I wonder if I was such a know it all when I was 18 as well. :lol: . probably..

Everyone of us knew everything at 18...... :lol: :lol:

Then we grew up..... :lol: :lol:

well, i never claimed to know everything about the industry, in fact i dont want to learn everything there is to know, because then i dont have anything to learn the next day!...lol

That is a LIE. There were three things I did not know at 18. I learned them when I was 19, making my life complete.