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fuelman 05-07-2008 06:06 AM

Cailfornia Overtime
 
I for one think the fed and state politicians stick thier nose into my private life just a little more than I can tolerate.

The state has been suing fuel carrier companies for not paying OT over 40 hours. It has finally come to my company and everybody is in an uproar over the situation. The owner says he would rather park the truck than pay OT and has been his position for the last 15 years. All the drivers were aware that this was a straight hourly job and signed a statement concerning hourly pay. The owner has raised the hourly wage in the past to keep up with the other carriers that do pay OT just to keep his experianced drivers. The Interstate Carrier Laws must have been rewritten or revised. We do go from colton ca. to las vegas to get biodiesel a couple times a month.

Bottom line is the state is screwing up a good thing for a lot of drivers. Overtime means nothing if you don'nt get any!!!!! This owner is the type of guy that will flip them the bird and close the door tomarrow,(you can'nt tell me what to do!!!) He'll just take his millions and retire.

Anyway, just needed to rant a bit, sometimes wish I had been born bout 1810 and when someone crossed you(state lawyer) you just pulled out your 6 shooter and blast''em, you know Client Eastwood style.

Peace Out 8) 8)
FUELMAN

Malaki86 05-07-2008 06:58 AM

Truck drivers are in our own little world. We are not regulated by OSHA or any other federal employment standards. So, we don't get OT, we don't fall under the OSHA regs for having an environment that is too hot/cold to work in, etc.

TCT 05-10-2008 03:18 PM

Fuelman,

Who do you drive for... Pacific Tank Lines?

Evinrude 05-11-2008 12:44 AM

Re: Cailfornia Overtime
 

Originally Posted by fuelman
I for one think the fed and state politicians stick thier nose into my private life just a little more than I can tolerate.

The state has been suing fuel carrier companies for not paying OT over 40 hours. It has finally come to my company and everybody is in an uproar over the situation. The owner says he would rather park the truck than pay OT and has been his position for the last 15 years. All the drivers were aware that this was a straight hourly job and signed a statement concerning hourly pay. The owner has raised the hourly wage in the past to keep up with the other carriers that do pay OT just to keep his experianced drivers. The Interstate Carrier Laws must have been rewritten or revised. We do go from colton ca. to las vegas to get biodiesel a couple times a month.

Bottom line is the state is screwing up a good thing for a lot of drivers. Overtime means nothing if you don'nt get any!!!!! This owner is the type of guy that will flip them the bird and close the door tomarrow,(you can'nt tell me what to do!!!) He'll just take his millions and retire.

Anyway, just needed to rant a bit, sometimes wish I had been born bout 1810 and when someone crossed you(state lawyer) you just pulled out your 6 shooter and blast''em, you know Client Eastwood style.

Peace Out 8) 8)
FUELMAN



Let him close the doors. The fuel will still need to be moved. Go and apply to the carriers that will pay the overtime and make more money. Btw companies cant make you sign not to get paid overtime unless it part of a collective agreement.

Kranky 05-11-2008 01:08 AM


All the drivers were aware that this was a straight hourly job and signed a statement concerning hourly pay.
Hourly non trucking jobs pay overtime, why shouldn't hourly paid truck drivers get it too?

Why anyone would willingly relinquish their right to be compensated for overtime is beyond me.


Bottom line is the state is screwing up a good thing for a lot of drivers.
How so? By trying to increase your weekly paycheck? By making sure you get the overtime pay that workers in other types of jobs take for granted? By enforcing the law?

The law is the law, if the company is not following the law, then the state must enforce the law.

Evinrude 05-11-2008 02:49 AM

Re: Cailfornia Overtime
 

Originally Posted by fuelman
I for one think the fed and state politicians stick thier nose into my private life just a little more than I can tolerate.

The state has been suing fuel carrier companies for not paying OT over 40 hours. It has finally come to my company and everybody is in an uproar over the situation. The owner says he would rather park the truck than pay OT and has been his position for the last 15 years. All the drivers were aware that this was a straight hourly job and signed a statement concerning hourly pay. The owner has raised the hourly wage in the past to keep up with the other carriers that do pay OT just to keep his experianced drivers. The Interstate Carrier Laws must have been rewritten or revised. We do go from colton ca. to las vegas to get biodiesel a couple times a month.

Bottom line is the state is screwing up a good thing for a lot of drivers. Overtime means nothing if you don'nt get any!!!!! This owner is the type of guy that will flip them the bird and close the door tomarrow,(you can'nt tell me what to do!!!) He'll just take his millions and retire.

Anyway, just needed to rant a bit, sometimes wish I had been born bout 1810 and when someone crossed you(state lawyer) you just pulled out your 6 shooter and blast''em, you know Client Eastwood style.

Peace Out 8) 8)
FUELMAN



I would be getting A labor lawyer and suing the owner for my lost OT pay and interest...No wonder his is a millionaire he stole your money and all the drivers that works there.

DaveFromColorado 05-11-2008 03:11 AM

Looks like you guys are missing the point that these drivers are happy working for the pay they are already receiving, and I think that should be the bottom line. If they are happy, than what right does the government have to step in and say "you're unhappy and we're going to fix it for you" ...

It's another process of the government thinking for the people because they're too stupid to do so for themselves. :roll: (note the sarcasm there)

--Dave.

Evinrude 05-11-2008 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by DaveFromColorado
Looks like you guys are missing the point that these drivers are happy working for the pay they are already receiving, and I think that should be the bottom line. If they are happy, than what right does the government have to step in and say "you're unhappy and we're going to fix it for you" ...

It's another process of the government thinking for the people because they're too stupid to do so for themselves. :roll: (note the sarcasm there)

--Dave.



Because your competition has to pay there drivers OT and they may loose there costumer's to your company that pays there drivers less creating a race to the bottom scenario. Next thing ya know the pay sucks like OTR and the turnover rate goes through the roof.

DaveFromColorado 05-11-2008 03:29 AM

Re: Cailfornia Overtime
 
The line that keeps getting overlooked is as follows.


Originally Posted by fuelman
The owner has raised the hourly wage in the past to keep up with the other carriers that do pay OT just to keep his experianced drivers.

Peace Out 8) 8)
FUELMAN

Additionally, he'd commented about how the owner had been operating this way for the past 15 years, and in 15 years, the scenario you're describing of loads of turnover, and such just hasn't happened.

I don't see why the government needs to step in - do they really think people are that stupid? It's that "we know what's good for you, better than you do" attitude. Welcome to the Socialist country of America.

--Dave.

GMAN 05-11-2008 04:23 AM

What difference does it make if the owner pays over time or not as long as his employees are happy and making the money that they want? Apparently, he is paying them about the equivalent of other drivers who are getting over time pay. It sounds to me as though they are talking semantics. All this guy will do is reduce their hourly pay so that he can afford to pay the over time. They won't make any more money and could make less if their current hourly pay is high enough. He stated that these drivers were happy with their pay. It seems to me that if they aren't happy then they can find a job that does pay over time and where they can by happier.


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