jane THE TRAITOR fonda
 

I received this in an email this morning. I did forward it to all in my address book, and I am posting here to all Viet Vets can help put Jane THE TRAITOR Fonda, in her place - somewhere far away from the USA.




[color=red]Subject: Woman of the year/ Traitor
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:01:58 -0400
Subject: SHE WAS REALLY A TRAITOR!!!

She really was a traitor

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the " 100 Women of the Century." BY BARBRA WALTERS

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action".His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived..

Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand.. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343




She is far worse than osama, she turned on and betrayed her own county.




Honorable Discharge, MP, 1969 to 1971, Ft Bragg, Ft Gordon, Ft Devens, and AFPD Boston.

Snopes? This one is pretty old. I know that the actual truth is not far from this, but this is one of those internet things that are designed to get people irritated and of course to spread worms and viruses. Be careful folks.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

This email dates back to 1999 and is mostly untrue.
Fonda was being recognized:
http://womenshistory.about.com/od/li...rs_100_wmn.htm

And while I don't understand that, I also don't understand Rosie O'Donnell, Anne Richards, and a whole lot of the other mouthy, insensitive man-haters that managed to float to the top.
Incredibly, ABC also "honored" Rosie The Riveter, who didn't even exist!

ON THE OTHER HAND...I was in Viet Nam during 1968. We lost 14,000 men during my tour there and Fonda cheered every loss.
It is my life-long ambition to punch that broad in the nose. I will go to jail if I ever succeed, and I'm sure she will understand that. After all, she was willing to go to jail for her beliefs was she not? Same for me.
Bring 'er on!

I was there around the same time as you but you'd have to get in the Line behind me.

Well, her dad was one heck of an actor. 8)

ya know, come right down to it she was (and maybe is) a pretty good actress. But she was full of herself and all about herself and had all the answers.
Someone said during Gulf War One that she may have been the smartest person in America because she said not one damn thing! But it wore off. She found religion, left Ted, and threatened to make a an anti-war road trip. I think probably someone told her not to come through my neck of the woods. :)

'gator, I think you have Ann Richards confused with someone else! She was one hell of a good Governor, much better than the bozo we have in the Governors Mansion in Texas now. Ann Richard accomplishments in politics, mostly in Texas, have still not been completely been realized by most.

Give me a choice between Ann Richards and Hillary "Iron Skirt" Clinton - I will take Ann every time.

Later all

Queen Ann was anti-gun. She backed proposals to reduce the sales of semi-automatic pistols. She did not support concealed carry permits either and vetoed it.

She also began the state lottery. Lotteries do nothing but drain the pockets of lower income people. The excuse that it would fund education is a farse. Now the state is trying to sell it to a private company.

She was against the death penalty too.

Ann was a typical liberal democrat who supported other liberals in their run for office. While Ann was more personable than Hillary, they are very similar in their liberal beliefs. Therefor it would be a cold day in hell before I voted for either of them. But hey, that's just me. :wink:

(falls to his knees, lowers his head and folds his hands under his chin)...Oh please, God, don't make me make that choice. I'll be good. I promise. (sobs)

Amen.

Like MOST of our promises to God.... you won't have to live up to this one. God has allready answered your prayer!

Anne Richards, of course, is deceased. No choice left to be made. :wink:

Yeah, but he could bring her back! :lol: :lol: ............I mean, he promised he was going to do that once before, didn't he?? And he might change his mind! 'Stead of sending Jesus he might send ANNE! :lol:

My most favorite "Ma" Richards quote, "Poor George, he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth."

Now if you from Texas I don't have to tell you to say it with an extreme drawl.

The funny thing is she lost to "W" and IIRC it wasn't even close.

I believe the exact quote was "Poor George, he was born with a silver FOOT in his mouth." I never cared for her politics, but she had a way with words. If I remember correctly, she dated one of our former governors, Ned Ray McWherter. I believe they were both in office at the same time. They seemed to have a lot in common, especially their misguided political views.

deleted! :evil:

What happened golfhobo? I was going to respond and when I went to quote you it showed up as deleted. Oh well. :D

Well Useless, this is where you're wrong. The ultimate power lies with lobbyist and special interest groups. :wink:

Greg: If you remember a specific part of it, and want to quote or paraphrase it, go ahead.

I deleted the entirety of the message because I felt I had gotten TOO emotional and perhaps spiteful. I am TRYING to turn over a new leaf! :lol:

I DID, however, save it to my notepad, first! I just don't know if I want to "put it out there" to enrage my conservative friends on this board.

Suffice it to say, if people will READ the entire Snopes article, they will know they are propogating and responding to a LIE and a HOAX.

Fozzy said it best. This HOAX is intended to unfuriate some people.... and it worked with ME!!

I believe the original poster said he just got it in his email this morning (although that may have been part of the email itself.) If so.... he is WAY behind the times, and not really worth my effort to enlighten.

If anyone ELSE DID have time to "quote" or copy my entire message, I would appreciate you respecting my wishes to hold it back.

Well, actually.... I was under the impression that the real power lay with those who had CCW permits and strapped on their Six Guns!! :lol:

gator said:

Please provide PROOF to substantiate this LIBELOUS statement, or modify your post to show that it is only YOUR uninformed opinion.

Thanks.

Yoopr said:

And BOTH of you would have to go THROUGH me! (one at a time, of course!) :lol:

Hey, wait a minute, I have a CCW but no power. Man, I got jipped! :shock:

Well, I don't have it copied and would not post it out of respect if I did. You had some very valid points and some that I would have loved to "discussed." :wink: . I could definately tell you were hot under the collar when you wrote it. :lol:

Yeah, I was HOT! :lol:

I'm a FIRM believer in the Constitution and Individual Rights, expecially Free Speech, Right to Petition the Government for Redress, Protection from illegal search and seizure, and no quartering of soldiers against my will.

If one studies deeply into the meaning of these rights, they will see that the first one or two applies fully to Ms. Fonda. The second one protects the rights of ALL "anti-war protestors" (along with the right to assemble which I didn't mention,) the third one CLEARLY makes the Bush wiretapping program, in direct conflict with the FISA courts, illegal.... and the fourth one, if defined properly, actually means that Americans cannot be "forced" to support FEDERAL military troops. (Keep in mind, this was written at a time when STATE'S Rights were considered OVER that of the Federal Government.

Now, that doesn't MEAN I don't SUPPORT our troops!!! It means I have a Constitutional right not to have MY PROPERTY (money) confiscated for the purpose of "quartering" (supporting) a FEDERAL military force during time of war.

Don't BLAME ME, if you don't like it! "I" didn't write the Constitution or the Bill of Rights!

"Aiding and Abetting" our enemies is a VERY "slippery slope" that could include MANY in the administrations over the last 70 years! Libbey and Cheney are the ones under the microscope at the moment. Benedict Arnold sold us out to the British and WAS "sent far away from the U.S."

There have been SEVERAL in recent years, who were in the CIA or other "defense" positions who have been convicted of treason and are in prison for it. And I take PARTICULAR offense to THEM! This Ghadan guy, who is propogandising, at the very least, for Al Quaida, is TOPS on my list! But, you know what? He hasn't yet done anything worse than Tokyo Rose... who was later PARDONED by (Republican) President FORD!!
(Along with NIXON!! IMHO, the biggest traitor to the Constitution TO DATE!)

Do you remember that Private in WWII (I believe) who was SHOT for treason? (can't remember his name, but there was an excellent movie about it.)

TREASON against my beloved United States is something I feel strongly about! It is NOT a term to be thrown about "lightly" (as in the impeachment trial of Clinton!) In a FREE society like we have, one must be VERY clear and specific when making such a charge. And, it is a VERY thin line between RIGHTS and Abuses!

The rootword, or origin, of TREASON and TRAITOR is found in the word, or root of the word, BETRAY. IMHO, BETRAYING the Constitutional rights of Americans is MUCH closer to the intended meaning of the word Treason, than exercising your Free Speech to "criticize" the government or a specific WAR!

In that respect, I will leave OPEN the obvious question of WHO is the bigger "traitor?"

When I was in the military, in the Intelligence branch, I was trained and prepared for the possibility of giving up my life to protect military secrets and personnel. Under the HORRIFIC conditions of torture that many of our servicemen in Vietnam experienced (and SOME GAVE IN TO!,) I can't say for sure whether I would have met my own expectations, or not.

But, I know for a fact, I can and WILL stand between a punch and a nose to protect someone's RIGHT to free speech, EVEN when it is "unflattering" to the Administration of the country I LOVE!

And now, even though I KNOW it will be controversial (as if the rest of my post wasn't,) I MUST voice this FREE opinion that I have. When a "certain" party of citizens "wraps themselves in the flag" and marches "lockstep" in line with the political Mantra of a Charismatic leader in a time of real or perceived crisis.... to the point they are willing to TURN ON and abridge the rights of those fellow citizens who disagree with them, HISTORY PROVES that we are not too far away from..... well..... let's just say a TOTALITARIAN or CONTROLLED society!

And, ladies and gentlemen, I have ancestors that died to PROTECT me from THAT form of government and society! THEY are my true HEROES! And I will NOT let their sacrifice be in vain!

No Problem

I figured you'd say as much, Yoopr. And, I DID add a smiley face. But, you REALLY don't know how difficult that might be!

But, I'm not getting into a Pizzin contest with you over it. My point really is, that you will have to BEAT your way through another VET who has the b@lls to stand up against you to protect another citizen's right to free speech.

You might win, and I might get bloody. But, I won't stand by and let it happen without giving MY best to defend the Constitution. That's ALL I can do, but I will do no LESS!

I believe the "Enlisted Oath of Service" says, "I will defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC."

I would have no way of knowing what Oath is taken by the NEO-CON Party of America! But, somehow, I bet it was written by Ann Coulter! :roll:

she has breast implants

Hmmm. When was there an "election stolen?"

It's simple code speak for "we lost and it's not fair"

Oh yeah, I remember now! :wink: If I recall correctly, the United States Supreme Court, not Republicans or Democrats, made a legal ruling.

Pay attention, Fozzy. Wrong context.

Useless claimed that Watergate was a "petty scandal." I reminded him that it was much more. He came back impugning the integrity and/or legacy of 5 other presidents. I pointed out that one was RE-ELECTED by the people, one admitted his failure and declined to even accept the NOMINATION again, and another LOST an election even after a successful military campaign.

I said that I didn't see how any of these presidents (let alone the one that was Assasinated,) could even be ACCUSED of stealing an election.

I was NOT referring to Dubya (in this case,) I was referring to Nixon. Just as Clinton was "charged" with the crime of perjury, while in fact being TRIED for getting a B.J, Nixon's CRIME was not so much the "coverup" as it was the original intention..... which was to get information on an opponent for the purpose of "manipulating" if not "stealing" an election.

The overall lesson of Watergate is, we must always be on guard against the Abuse of Power that can be used to adulterate our process of Free Elections.

However, if you'd RATHER talk about DUBYA??? :lol:

Ah yes.... I stand corrected! She IS a traitor to the Itty Bitty ***** Club!! :lol: