I was talking about George H.W. Bush. But the current Bush will pardon people too.

No, sometimes the Presidential pardon is used well and is appropriate, especially when the offender has paid for his crime and redeemed himself through exemplary public service.

Read "Racehoss, Big Emma's Boy", the true story of Albert Race Sample...He recieved a full pardon, was granted all his rights back. And he deserved it.

:roll: This whole situation reminds me of the righteous bank robber;
All the cops are talking about is that four banks that I robbed,
what about those thousands of banks, that I did NOT rob?

Twilight Flyer said:

Sorry, T/F.... not true. Of the 42 presidents up to Clinton, TWENTY of them provided MORE clemency actions than Clinton.... including Nixon at 926 (twice Clinton's 456.) And Clinton produced a mere 50 more than Reagan (406) and Ford (409.)

Neutral?? :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:


As I said at the beginning, I never used the word pardon. I would have settled for him serving 12 months! Sorry.... Probabation is "gone" since the sentence is "commuted." And Cheney's already paid the fine for him... a drop in the bucket in "protection money."

It seems that many REPUBLICANS in Congress and elsewhere disagree with you. Minor?? :shock: M-a-y-b-e if he'd waited til his last day in office, and Scooter was sitting in jail somewhere, and he "pardoned" him at THAT time, it might have been considered "minor." But, to have done so IMMEDIATELY after the court decision, before he served a day, smacks of total DISREGARD for the law of the land. The same attitude that makes Cheney think he doesn't have to follow even the Executive orders of the President!

And WHO is responsible for the political climate?? A President and V.P. who consider themselves ABOVE THE LAW.

The thing is with this commuting of sentace Libby is 100% free with no Probation 10buck says on Bush's last day he will be pardoned now. Our current President has taken disregard of the law to new heights he routinely put signing statements on bills that state this part of this law does not apply to me or my administration at anytime. He sealed all records of his administration for 50 years the second he took office. What is next for this guy to do declare martial law better not give him any ideas.

:mrgreen:

Wow. Still beating this thing???

Presidents do...what dey got to due !!!!


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Part Time Dweller:

Besides the fact that you thought Clinton wasn't charged with lying to a Grand Jury, you also brought up Marc Rich. I read the Time article. It didn't really say much, and offered no real facts concerning the case or its outcome. However, I found another one you might find interesting.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLI...inton.library/

Here are a few excerpts.....

And more importantly, and to show some difference between that case and the way the current administration has stonewalled the Libby prosecution.....

So.... even LIBBY thought there was no case against Marc Rich. The statutes under which he was indicted no longer exist. He was apparently the ONLY individual that was prosecuted for something that MANY oil companies were doing at the time.

And Clinton PROVIDED for the testimony of his aides in the matter.... something Bush has repeatedly avoided by claiming "executive privilege."

I think you are comparing apples to oranges.

Oh.... and my favorite flavor of Koolaid is Coors Light! :wink:

Sorry, Orange guy! I never started a thread that went 4 pages before, and I only got to post on page ONE (maybe 2?) before going on the "run from HELL!"

I'm just "catching up" if you don't mind. :wink:

Yes they are BIG TIME remember this the Republican party spent 90 MILLION dollars investigating Clintion and all they finally nailed him for eventally was receiving oral sex from an intern and lying about it on an UNRELATED CIVIL CASE. Remember this what they were investigating was Whitewater NOT THE PAULA JONES CASE. How they strecthed Jones into Whitewater took some serious jumping.

:D