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Twilight Flyer 06-07-2007 02:52 AM

Smuggling Illegals
 
Illegal Alien Smuggling Gone Bad

The only thing I am going to say about this is....how on earth do you get 200 people in a secret compartment in a trailer?!?!?


About 200 Central American immigrants were hidden inside the compartment when it collapsed under the weight of the fruit Sunday in near Juchitan in Oaxaca state after a 10-hour trip that started at the Guatemalan border, Salvadoran Consul Nelson Cuellar said.
200 people?!?

Are you kidding me?!?

Roadhog 06-07-2007 03:19 AM

It's getting like that on Airlines now these days too.
With the high price of fuel...they will not fly until they have every seat filled.

For now...at least the tickets are no where near as bad as 5-7k...but that is only because Haliburton has not purchased NW Airlines yet.

This is especially devastating to our upcoming Strawberry harvest.
Look for fruit prices to soar. We may have to hire Legals at minimum wage or less depending on which State....or loopholes they can use.

Jackrabbit379 06-07-2007 03:36 AM

Huh? Haliburton is also in flying, and stuff? :shock:

Roadhog 06-07-2007 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
Huh? Haliburton is also in flying, and stuff? :shock:

I meant that as a joke...if they were to buy into Airlines...then tickets would be like $5,000 to fly from Dallas lets say to Ft. Worth....round trip would be possibly $7,000 if you flew on a Tuesday. :)

Jackrabbit379 06-07-2007 04:22 AM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dude, I got a headache.

Well, to stay on track, I think it's sad that you can haul so many people on such tight spaces.

Roadhog 06-07-2007 04:33 AM

I think they were all about 5'4" and skinny. If they were your average U.S. natural born citizen...you might have packed only a dozen in there and the floor would have buckled....and destroyed the poor bananas instead. :? :P

Jackrabbit379 06-07-2007 04:39 AM

Yeah, no lie.

I have seen a family of 10 ride peacefully in a mini van, so it might not be nothing for them in a fruity truck.

Mr. Ford95 06-07-2007 08:14 AM

Only 10 in a mini-van?? I've seen 8 climb out of a little old Hyundai car. 2 in the front, 4 in the back and 2 in the trunk. If they were good they could have gotten 10 in that car. :D

That fruit must have been heavy, 200 people at an average of 130lbs is 26,000lbs. Then figure in what the weight of the secret compartment was, then the fruit........it's a wonder they made it 10 hours.

silvan 06-07-2007 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
Well, to stay on track, I think it's sad that you can haul so many people on such tight spaces.

If you want a sad thought, think about how many Africans they used to pack onto those slave ships.

Twilight Flyer 06-07-2007 09:47 AM

Yeah, but how do you physically get 200 people into a false bottom floor of a tractor trailer?!? Even stacking them like cordwood doesn't seem like it is physically possible. Again, we're talking about a false bottom and there just ain't that much you can do with a trailer and still expect the secret compartment to remain secret.

Mack2 06-07-2007 02:19 PM

Was this a standard van trailer except for the secret compartmant? Or could it have been like a moving van with the extra space in the botom?

Manicmechnic 06-08-2007 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Yeah, but how do you physically get 200 people into a false bottom floor of a tractor trailer?!? Even stacking them like cordwood doesn't seem like it is physically possible. Again, we're talking about a false bottom and there just ain't that much you can do with a trailer and still expect the secret compartment to remain secret.

I don't know if you seen a belly loaded FEDEX pup. A belly load pup has alot of room, if it was a 53' trailer room for more.

silvan 06-09-2007 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Yeah, but how do you physically get 200 people into a false bottom floor of a tractor trailer?!? Even stacking them like cordwood doesn't seem like it is physically possible. Again, we're talking about a false bottom and there just ain't that much you can do with a trailer and still expect the secret compartment to remain secret.

OK, let's see... A standard 53' van is 102" wide and 53' long, take away 1" all around for walls and it's 100" wide by 52'10" long. You wouldn't be able to get two deep without making it really obvious there was a false floor, so the compartment is probably 12-14" or so, and the third dimension isn't really relevent to the calculation.

The average Mexican is about 5'8" tall, and probably 2' wide at the shoulder. If you flip people head to toe, you can get more people into less space, because they're wider at the shoulder, and narrower at the waist. Figure the average people unit stacked in this fashion is 3' wide per two people. That's 2.77 people units wide, and you can probably cram in one more, so that's one, two, three, four, 5 people wide.

52'10" is 634" divided by 5'8" (68") is 9.32 people long. Call it 9 people from nose to tail, and 5 people wide. That's 45 people.

Even if you cram it up even tighter to 50 people, it still takes four layers of people to make 200.

It seems pretty incredible.

Mr. Ford95 06-09-2007 11:30 AM

Ya'll know it doesn't say exactly how the bananas were put in the trailer or exactly how many people were there. It only says "about" 200, could have been less. They could have made it where the floor was sticking way up and out of place but the bananas were not stacked inside boxes, but just tossed in loosely. You know, a big pile in the trailer to hide the weird looking floor. They just happened to put in way too many to cover the floor.

Roadhog 06-09-2007 11:40 AM

or someone ate some bean burritos before they left..and everyone all at once tried to bail. :?

Jackrabbit379 06-09-2007 01:19 PM

ooof. may be much bad. :shock:

BigWheels 06-09-2007 01:41 PM

I suspect a typo is in play here...20 instead of 200.

If not, perhaps it was a really, really long trailer.... :P :lol:

Jumbo 06-10-2007 02:06 PM

I had heard on one of the XM news channels that it was 20 people.

mikey4069 06-10-2007 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by roadhog
or someone ate some bean burritos before they left..and everyone all at once tried to bail. :?

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hat Rak 06-10-2007 06:08 PM

Try this experiment:

After you get your trailer unloaded by your favorite lumpers ever and before you get your qual-comm telling you where your next vacation will take place, give your trailer a good ole fashioned sweeping out if you don't usually, only instead of leaving the doors open, lock the right door latch and let it shut so there is no air circulation inside the trailer.

How do you feel now, Dr. Quest?

Probably like a poodle in a microwave oven. They all probably died of heat stroke.

golfhobo 06-11-2007 01:55 PM

Let's try this. a pallet can hold 8 boxes per layer. That's 8 people per pallet standing upright. Each with plenty of room. Now, put 28 pallets of people on a REEFER trailer 53' long. That's 224 people, with room for two more pallets before the back door. Now, build a roof over them which will hold at least 2-4 layers of fruit in boxes, and put two pallets of said fruit behind them. They are "air conditioned" to 38 degrees (so they may need a light jacket,) and hidden from view. Add a recorder and a fake BOL, and you sail right through customs! Everytime I leave Nogales, I am WAIVED through customs checkpoints. If they ask, I say I have one co-driver and we are both American citizens.

I could be making MILLIONS, for the price of about 500 cases of fruit!!!

In the two years I've been driving, I have not YET had ANYONE look inside the back of my trailer.

Mack2 06-11-2007 02:20 PM

Golfhobo would you like to go into buissness<sp>?

I'm sure we could scratch up a cheap used tractor a reefer trailer.

Cluggy619 06-12-2007 02:26 PM

I know this is a stupid question.....why not let them BUY their way into the US? If they are willing to pay 5,000 - 7,000 to get in Illegally, I bet they would buy their way in legally for 5 years, let say for $10,000. We can use the money to keep fighting the illegals from getting in. When their time is up, they can re-buy their stay for another $10,000 for another 5 years......

We could limit what they do. They wouldn't be Americans, but instead, be allowed to work and live for 5 years. No voting rights, and if they break the law, back they go.

Just a thought.

lucky13 06-24-2007 04:51 AM

Re: Smuggling Illegals
 

Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Illegal Alien Smuggling Gone Bad

The only thing I am going to say about this is....how on earth do you get 200 people in a secret compartment in a trailer?!?!?


About 200 Central American immigrants were hidden inside the compartment when it collapsed under the weight of the fruit Sunday in near Juchitan in Oaxaca state after a 10-hour trip that started at the Guatemalan border, Salvadoran Consul Nelson Cuellar said.
200 people?!?

Are you kidding me?!?

And the Mexicans wonder why we dont want their trucks on our roads!!!!!!!!!

ronjon619 06-24-2007 05:35 AM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...24trailer.html

homer 06-25-2007 02:25 PM

For now...at least the tickets are no where near as bad as 5-7k...but that is only because Haliburton has not purchased NW Airlines yet[color=red][/

lot of truckers makin good money on that haliburton stock. you leftys drivin the successful us companies overseas suck. they set up in dubai so hillary can "confiscate profits" of some one else. big timber,big mining,big oil= big wages, hilary and barak osama got u by the balls


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