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NWRally 01-29-2007 11:03 AM

Video: Clinton, Howard Dean declaring that Saddam had WMD's
 
:o

Did these guys just conveniently forget what they said?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfeBROshZ0M

Pass this along to everyone you know who says "Bush Lied / People Died!".

mikey4069 02-03-2007 12:08 PM

they will tell you they never said it :o

heavenbound 02-03-2007 12:15 PM

Great link NWRally.

Dejanh 02-03-2007 01:58 PM

What people tend to forget in regards to this is that intellengence was altered by the people on the top who planned this invasion decades ago, democrats or republican it does not matter and it doesnt change the fact that this is the biggest mistake this nation has made in its entire existance, bigger than Vietnam three times over.....

Useless 02-03-2007 02:04 PM

Sort of reminds me of a scene from National Lampoon's movie "Animal House"!!

You remember the scene where the Delta guys had just returned from a road trip, and wrecked the car that Flounder had??

What was it that Otter told Flounder, as Flounder was bubbling and bawling???

Hey!!! So you F#cked up!! YOU TRUSTED US!!! Live and learn!!


Well, the Democrats F%cked up by trusting Bush!!

Dejanh 02-03-2007 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Useless

Well, the Democrats F%cked up by trusting Bush!!

Might wanna rephrase that ,,democrats''- to everyone..

Hardly little one

yoopr 02-03-2007 02:30 PM

When I was there we ran into 2 IED's with Chemical Weapons(DUH-those are WMD's). One was Sarin and one was Mustard gas. You think the Liberal asses will every say that?

For over a year I ripped on My liberal COngressman(who I happen to know all too well) and he kept saying "There are No WMD's in Iraq". I kept saying "well Bart-we ran into 2 of them on our Convoys and this jack ass kept telling Me(who has actually been to Iraq) There are No WMD's in Iraq.
Finally he got off of his fat ass and contacted DOD and Just Imagine-DOD confirmed what I ran into :P
Read Sadas Book(Sadas was Saddam's Air Force General) and he'll tell you all about WMD's in Iraq-What happened to them and where MOST of them went.
God help the U.S when Liberals follow the Party Line when it comes to WMD's or anything else Militarily connected. Blood is going to be on their hands AGAIN!!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IraqinIEDs.jpg

Uturn2001 02-03-2007 02:38 PM

With all the months or jerking around Saddam did with the inspectors and all the months of warnings he had enough time to pack most all his WMD's up on camels and take them to Iowa and bury them in the corn fields. :roll: :roll:

IMHO the two biggest mistakes Bush did in invading Iraq was declaring victory when he did and allowing the media in.

The biggest error everyone made, from Bush on down to the American people, was not really understanding the dynamics of the mid-east mind set and social issues in regards to the "tribes".

yoopr 02-03-2007 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh
What people tend to forget in regards to this is that intellengence was altered by the people on the top who planned this invasion decades ago, democrats or republican it does not matter and it doesnt change the fact that this is the biggest mistake this nation has made in its entire existance, bigger than Vietnam three times over.....

Hardly-I was in Vietnam and Iraq-Where were you to get all of this "Information" or you just flopping the Party Line

Dejanh 02-03-2007 02:54 PM

Iraq does not have any more of those weapons than any other country on this plannet, expecially us and to be exact our Gov. told us where they were exacly and that turned out to be incorrect, remember Powells testemony at the UN :roll: , even the president himself blamed intellegence for its failures :?: . You may have found two of whatever but where are those mountain stockpiles that we have been told about and where are those nuclear weapons that so much has been said about...While you are quick to judge the other side for its failures are you saying that military that has been ran with these folks is succeding in any way or are you gonna put blame on someone else as well?

This has been the error of devestating proportions and history will judge this move just as it judged so many others.

Dejanh 02-03-2007 02:56 PM

[quote="yoopr"]

Originally Posted by Dejanh

Hardly-I was in Vietnam and Iraq-Where were you to get all of this "Information" or you just flopping the Party Line

Are you calling Vietnam a succes move and no, am not flopping anything expecialy a party line and since i dont vote at all i dont concider myself to be either red/white/pink or yellow for that matter.

Useless 02-03-2007 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh

Originally Posted by Useless

Well, the Democrats F%cked up by trusting Bush!!

Might wanna rephrase that ,,democrats''- to everyone..

Hardly little one

A good point made here!!

yoopr 02-03-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh
Iraq does not have any more of those weapons than any other country on this plannet, expecially us and to be exact our Gov. told us where they were exacly and that turned out to be incorrect, remember Powells testemony at the UN :roll: , even the president himself blamed intellegence for its failures :?: . You may have found two of whatever but where are those mountain stockpiles that we have been told about and where are those nuclear weapons that so much has been said about...While you are quick to judge the other side for its failures are you saying that military that has been ran with these folks is succeding in any way or are you gonna put blame on someone else as well?

This has been the error of devestating proportions and history will judge this move just as it judged so many others.

Keep your Fingers in your Ears and Go LA LA LA LA LA all day but that doesn't stop Reality
NOBODY said ANYTHING about "Nuclear Weapons" :roll: at ANY TIME
You're pretty ignorant of FACTS-First of all Israel Blew Up the Nuclear Reactor that Saddam was Building because Saddam said he would use Nuclear Weapons against Israel AND Saudi.
"2 Whatever"?? :roll:
I guess you don't know what Sarin Gas and Mustard Gas do. Use your Computer and you'll find that Terrorists in Japan Used it to kill LOTS of people.

Again-You avoided my Question-Where and when were you in Iraq or Vietnam to get all this "Information"?? or have you ever even BEEN in the military?

BanditsCousin 02-03-2007 03:21 PM

Yoopr, didn't the officials in Russia use mustard gas to wipe out the terrorists (and hostages) in that movie theater a few years back.

I don't know what sarin is, but I know mustard gas in no joke :shock:

Where did you see the IED's in Iraq? I'm not doubting you in any way, just curious of your experiences...

yoopr 02-03-2007 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by BanditsCousin
Yoopr, didn't the officials in Russia use mustard gas to wipe out the terrorists (and hostages) in that movie theater a few years back.

I don't know what sarin is, but I know mustard gas in no joke :shock:

Where did you see the IED's in Iraq? I'm not doubting you in any way, just curious of your experiences...

Yeah-Supposedly used gas when the Russians took out the Chechnian Terrorists at that School House.

We ran into WMD's on 2 occasions when I was there. both were on convoys near Baghdad-Minesweeper detected them first(Minesweepers sometimes(Not enough) ran ahead of convoys and there is a vehicle called Warlock which jams all electronic signals to an area(IED's are set off by cell phones) and EOD was brought in to disarm them and Sarin Gas was released. With Sarin gas the chemicals have to be detonated to mix and form the Gas. EOD SUCCESSFULLY(thank God) disarmed them without harm.

Dejanh 02-03-2007 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by yoopr



Keep your Fingers in your Ears and Go LA LA LA LA LA all day but that doesn't stop Reality
NOBODY said ANYTHING about "Nuclear Weapons" :roll: at ANY TIME
You're pretty ignorant of FACTS-First of all Israel Blew Up the Nuclear Reactor that Saddam was Building because Saddam said he would use Nuclear Weapons against Israel AND Saudi.
"2 Whatever"?? :roll:
I guess you don't know what Sarin Gas and Mustard Gas do. Use your Computer and you'll find that Terrorists in Japan Used it to kill LOTS of people.

Again-You avoided my Question-Where and when were you in Iraq or Vietnam to get all this "Information"?? or have you ever even BEEN in the military?

Whats up with the rolleyes?


Keep my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la. :lol:

Nobody said anything about nuclear weapons, i asked you did you remember Powell's testimony to the UN where he said that Iraq tried to ,,smuggle'' uranium to build nuclear bomb, how about that ,,mushroom'' cloud that was mentioned every ten seconds or the ,,fact'' that they were a year from building a nuclear bomb..? You asked me a question that has nothing to do with what i said, please tell me what i said that is not true and no, i have not been to Vietnam or Iraq but my dad has and my brother IS so please spare me your judgments as i do not need any..

What i said is not some information that has been picked up from the thin air, it is unbeatable fact pr oven since the invasion and if i lied somewhere please point that out as i will prove it to you once again and for god sakes STOP lecturing me on the history matters as i majored in International relations and history and you might wanna do that to 90% of the public who cant even show you the map of Iraq even if it was highlighted in red.

I know what Sarin gas does and i know what it is but are you gonna tell me that we invaded Iraq due to sarin gas and some shells found on the road somewhere?? We use depleted uranium 24/7 RIGHT NOW without any problems and 4 years after this debacle am still amazed at certain individuals who are acctualy standing firm on their believes in regard to this nightmare :?: , great for those who are making the killing on our ignorance and those who put other lives on the line for buisiness sakes.

yoopr 02-03-2007 04:29 PM

What i said is not some information that has been picked up from the thin air, it is unbeatable fact pr

From where?
You haven't been in the Military-Never been to Iraq and never been to Vietnam but you know :roll:

I've been to BOTH and I know you don't know anything but we were given same security briefings and Clearances as the Military so we DID know what was going on. You know Neither.
Plus the Fact that we were "Outside the Wire"(A term I know you have no clue what it means) more than the Military.
You wouldn't know "Facts" if it bit you in the Butt.
at first you didn't know what Sarin Gas was and Now you do :roll:

Twilight Flyer 02-04-2007 01:59 AM

Um, Dejanh...you said:


i dont vote at all i dont concider myself to be either red/white/pink or yellow for that matter
And I have to respectfully submit that you have absolutely ZERO worthwhile input, let alone and reason to even get involved in political or Iraq discussions.

You may have valid points and considerations, but if you are a citizen of this country and you do not vote, then your points are invalidated. In other words, you haven't earned the right to dissent, so to speak.

Voting is one of our greatest privileges in this country. Overall, I may disagree big time with liberals and democrats en masse, but if they vote, they have the right to their soap boxes and I will hear them out, even if I think they are full of beans. If you do not vote, you do not have that right. Period. And I'm willing to bet that MOST people on both sides of the partisan line feel the same way.

WildK9 02-04-2007 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Um, Dejanh...you said:


i dont vote at all i dont concider myself to be either red/white/pink or yellow for that matter
And I have to respectfully submit that you have absolutely ZERO worthwhile input, let alone and reason to even get involved in political or Iraq discussions.

You may have valid points and considerations, but if you are a citizen of this country and you do not vote, then your points are invalidated. In other words, you haven't earned the right to dissent, so to speak.

Voting is one of our greatest privileges in this country. Overall, I may disagree big time with liberals and democrats en masse, but if they vote, they have the right to their soap boxes and I will hear them out, even if I think they are full of beans. If you do not vote, you do not have that right. Period. And I'm willing to bet that MOST people on both sides of the partisan line feel the same way.

i must second this. if you don't vote, your opinion doesn't matter to those of us that do. :roll:

BTW-yoopr is correct. being in iraq, i personally, know this to be fact. :wink:

Windwalker 02-04-2007 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Dejanh
What people tend to forget in regards to this is that intellengence was altered by the people on the top who planned this invasion decades ago, democrats or republican it does not matter and it doesnt change the fact that this is the biggest mistake this nation has made in its entire existance, bigger than Vietnam three times over.....

You, Sir, are a FOOL.
Never argue with a fool... It soon becomes difficult to distinguish who is on what side.
You'd be smart to quit while you're behind.

yoopr 02-04-2007 04:20 AM

my last comment(I think) on this is that the Coalition didn't invade Iraq because of WMD's.
I suggest you read all of the UN Resolutions that Saddam Broke and why Iraq was "Invaded"

JollyWhiteGiant 02-16-2007 08:19 AM

clicked on the link and it said that the video was removed for violations of terms.

kjax 02-16-2007 03:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLERW7snUQ

Manicmechnic 02-17-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Video: Clinton, Howard Dean declaring that Saddam had WM
 

Originally Posted by NWRally
:o

Did these guys just conveniently forget what they said?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfeBROshZ0M

Pass this along to everyone you know who says "Bush Lied / People Died!".

In the 1980's US companies supplied Sarin, anthrax, mustard gas and botulinum under licences issued by the Reagan and Bush administrations.

"Dr. Rihab Taha, architect of Iraq’s biological weapons program, told that Iraq once had the capability to kill everyone on Earth twice but the weapons were all destroyed in 1991, including 2,200 gallons of anthrax. UNSCOM [United Nations Special Commission] themselves verified this matter in1991 and later in December 2002 she gave a clean report about the amount and destruction of biological weapons to UN inspectors. She confirmed that Iraq would never use them against the US as Iraq no longer has these weapons now".

USA should goto war with the USA so there will be no more WMD over there in Iraq so they don't harm the USA.

Yes there was WMD in Iraq, USA still have the receipts.

mf2004champ 02-18-2007 07:30 AM

Unfortunetly war is big business since WWI. Many companies make big profits off of war and they have lobbyists that make massive contributions to our elected officials in D.C., essentially 'buying' their vote to help their company's need.

The merging of business and govt in the past 50 years in troubling, especially in the military. It blurrs the cause of the action, i.e. Iraq. Democrats and Republicans are involved, both to be blamed.

jnk2001 02-18-2007 07:48 AM


I've been to BOTH and I know you don't know anything but we were given same security briefings and Clearances as the Military so we DID know what was going on. You know Neither.
Sorry, I was in the army too.... They just give you the information THEY WANT you to know...You know, the need to know...

And what does this have to do with anything and everything truck related any way?

Manicmechnic 02-28-2007 10:56 PM

Yes there was WMD in Iraq, USA still have the receipts.
 
SJM 8016 - 2007-08
Requesting an impeachment investigation into actions by President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

Mar 1 Scheduled for public hearing in the Senate Committee on Government Operations & Elections at 3:30 PM
Government Operations & Elections - 03/01/07 3:30 pm
Senate Full Committee
Senate Hearing Rm 2
J.A. Cherberg Building
Olympia, WA

http://www.leg.wa.gov/legislature/sh....aspx?id=11660

coastie 03-14-2007 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dejanh
What people tend to forget in regards to this is that intellengence was altered by the people on the top who planned this invasion decades ago, democrats or republican it does not matter and it doesnt change the fact that this is the biggest mistake this nation has made in its entire existance, bigger than Vietnam three times over.....

Been listening to the Democrats to much, Iraq is Free now, thanks to the Invasion. It been keeping the Terrorist Busy so they are not attacking in the USA now. Would say much more but what's the use? You'll just say it all a lie.

Orangetxguy 03-14-2007 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by yoopr
What i said is not some information that has been picked up from the thin air, it is unbeatable fact pr

From where?
You haven't been in the Military-Never been to Iraq and never been to Vietnam but you know :roll:

I've been to BOTH and I know you don't know anything but we were given same security briefings and Clearances as the Military so we DID know what was going on. You know Neither.
Plus the Fact that we were "Outside the Wire"(A term I know you have no clue what it means) more than the Military.
You wouldn't know "Facts" if it bit you in the Butt.
at first you didn't know what Sarin Gas was and Now you do :roll:

Yoopr...What year(s) did you serve in Vietnam, and what branch of service?

Where you in Iraq as a civilian mercenary or as a recalled retiree??

Hell..I may just gain a little respect for you.


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