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shyykatt 01-22-2007 09:42 AM

Dinar?
 
I have a relative that invested THOUSANDS of moolah in the Iraq dinar; they think by the end of this week or something they'll be millionaires; I've been told by others that its more like a scam. Anybody know anything about it?

Twilight Flyer 01-22-2007 09:55 AM

Investors were talking about that several years ago as being a potential goldmine. I looked into it, personally, but it was a risk I chose not to take. Now, had Iraq stabilized and the economy over there gotten on track, it probably would have turned out to be a great investment. But with the current hell going on over there, it's not likely to happen anytime soon, if ever.

Deus 01-22-2007 09:57 AM

Keep in mind even if the economy over there starts booming, they can always decide to change currency, which isn't unusual for a new government to do.

yoopr 01-22-2007 10:34 AM

i've got quite a bit of dinar-both the old Saddam dinar and the new

PackRatTDI 01-22-2007 10:39 AM

I'm thinking of ordering pizza for dinar. :lol:

shyykatt 01-22-2007 10:44 AM

Whats the diff. with old or new? I think they bought it a year and a half ago. So Yoop- does that mean you'll be rich come wed? (thats what they think)

Useless 01-22-2007 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
I'm thinking of ordering pizza for dinar. :lol:

Now, that's the best idea I've read on this thread yet!!! :lol: :lol:

If it was all so much of a sure thing, I would have already done it; Iraq is in the throes of civil war, stability is nowhere near in sight, and the U.S. is powerless to even so much as install an effective "puppet" government.

I'm quite certain that by the end of this Wed., I'll be regretting what I said, the opportunities that I've lost, and draining my emoticon piggy bank by having to buy a bunch of :oops: :oops: :oops: faces!!!

shyykatt 01-22-2007 11:48 AM

Everytime I say something to them about the civil war, etc. over there, they get all "Oh, thats just what the media says, they never tell you about the good stuff going on over there; we have investors over there, and they tell us the $ is gonna go soon." (go where, I dunno)

yoopr 01-22-2007 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by shyykatt
Whats the diff. with old or new? I think they bought it a year and a half ago. So Yoop- does that mean you'll be rich come wed? (thats what they think)

Nobody I was in Iraq with ever thought it was instant Weatlth
I thought you wanted an answer and you give me a smart A$$ comment?
Old has Saddam's mug on it

yoopr 01-22-2007 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by shyykatt
Everytime I say something to them about the civil war, etc. over there, they get all "Oh, thats just what the media says, they never tell you about the good stuff going on over there; we have investors over there, and they tell us the $ is gonna go soon." (go where, I dunno)

Keep reading your Papers in Liberal Minnesota about the Civil War.
Thought this topic was about the Dinar and not your stupid comments about War on Terrorism and Iraq?
Why don't you go to Iraq and find out for yourself what is actually going on.

shyykatt 01-22-2007 01:44 PM

(gulp) I wasn't being that way- just mentioning what my relatives were saying to me about it, and I was wondering what other's thought. Some say its a scam, some think its for real. :oops:

yoopr 01-22-2007 01:51 PM

Relatives were talking about the Dinar or Iraq?
Look at the Dinar like people look at investing in the Stock Market. You expect your stock to go up but if it doesn't don't invest in that particular stock more than you can afford to lose.

shyykatt 01-22-2007 02:00 PM

Well, both. They tell me the Dinar will be worth more when Iraqs economy gets better- which, according to them is now (thats why they think they'll get their millions supposedly this week). But all I ever hear about is how bad it is over there, and they are trying to tell me it isn't. So yeah, my main question was does anybody know if thats true or not?(the Dinar payouts).Personally (not that it matters) I feel its more of a scam or something, but we'll see. Thats why I'm asking.

yoopr 01-22-2007 02:31 PM

Canadian columnist Neil Reynolds noticed Spring's piece in Toronto's Globe and Mail:

OTTAWA -- More than U.S. troops are surging in Iraq. As the international edition of Newsweek magazine reported at year-end, the Iraqi economy is expanding at a rapid rate: "Civil war or not," writer Silvia Spring says, "Iraq has an economy and - mother of all surprises - it's doing remarkably well." Amid anarchy and savage violence, Iraq's construction industry is booming.

Retail and wholesale trade sectors are thriving. Real estate prices are soaring - up by several hundred per cent in the past couple of years. Iraqi oil production (at two million barrels a day) approaches Venezuelan production (2.4 million barrels a day) and could easily double in the next few years. On average, Iraqis earn 100 per cent more, in real terms, than they did under Saddam Hussein.

Public opinion surveys indicate that Iraqis are now, in economic expectations, at least, expansively optimistic.

Newsweek describes Iraq's economic revival as a product of "vibrancy at the grassroots." Three years ago, Iraq had 8,000 registered companies. Last year it had 34,000. Two years ago, Iraqis owned 1.4 million cellphones. Last year, they owned 7.1 million. (Iraqna, the country's leading mobile phone company, reported revenue of $333-million [U.S.] in 2005, $520-million in 2006.) Baghdad now has five times as many cars as it had before the war.

Global Insight, the economic research company, puts Iraq's GDP growth for 2005 at 17 per cent and for 2006 at 13 per cent. "The U.S. wanted to create the conditions in which small-scale enterprise could blossom," the magazine quotes Jan Randolph, head of sovereign risk at Global Insight's office in London. "In a sense, they've succeeded."

None of this lessens the horrors of the savage insurgency in the infamous Sunni Triangle. But none of it warrants suppression of Iraq's economic boom, either, yet it remains an "invisible" story, as Newsweek puts it, in most international coverage. Take unemployment as a single example. Are Iraqis underemployed? Inefficiently employed? Dangerously employed? Absolutely. But are 50 per cent of Iraqis unemployed - or indeed, as some reports have it, 70 per cent? Newsweek itself says that Iraq's unemployment rate "runs between 30 per cent and 50 per cent." Yet this kind of guesswork was disproved in mid-2005 when a comprehensive research study, using International Labour Organization definitions and standards, put Iraq's unemployment rate at 10.1 per cent.

In an assessment of Iraqi unemployment for the U.S. Congress, Rand Corporation researchers declared that bloated estimates of Iraqi unemployment were "seriously flawed," that the country possessed "an economically active, albeit poor, male citizenry." The report calculated the labour force participation rate for Iraqi men at 69 per cent. (By comparison, the rate for Canadian men is 73 per cent.) The participation rate for Iraqi women, however, was 13 per cent - a similar percentage, the report noted, "to the participation rate [for women] in all of the Arab countries of the Middle East and North Africa."

Contrary to the TV image of Iraqis men loitering around the wreckage of bombed cars, the Rand report described an enterprising people with an almost heroic work ethic. By far, it observed, most Iraqis were self-employed in private sector work, many holding more than one job. "The problem in Iraq isn't unemployment," the report said. "It's poverty."

Useless 01-22-2007 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by shyykatt
Well, both. They tell me the Dinar will be worth more when Iraqs economy gets better- which, according to them is now (thats why they think they'll get their millions supposedly this week). But all I ever hear about is how bad it is over there, and they are trying to tell me it isn't. So yeah, my main question was does anybody know if thats true or not?(the Dinar payouts).Personally (not that it matters) I feel its more of a scam or something, but we'll see. Thats why I'm asking.


Currency trading is something that can succeed for a few people, but for the general public, it's not where they should be.

I have a friend who is a retired oil man; not going to mention his name, but if you were around in the 1980's, you most likely heard his name mentioned a time or three.

Now, he has made a lot of money in trading options and commodities, but he is also very well versed in that realm of investment, has nerves of steel, and if he drops a couple million on a bad speculation, it won't hurt him. It's just not a game for the light of wallet, or the faint of heart!!!

Currency trading is much the same. Everything has to go right, and if just a few things don't pan out, you'll walk away minus your money. Now, I have a fairly decent track record as an active investor, but I'm nowhere NEAR fit for those kinds of deals!!

ssoutlaw 01-22-2007 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
I'm thinking of ordering pizza for dinar. :lol:

lol... :lol:

Roadhog 01-22-2007 10:59 PM

:evil: $7,950,000.00 Dinars for a lousy pizza!!? yew kiddin' me? :evil:

....and wtf is that?...that don't look like pepperoni. :?


:shock: INCOMING!!!!
..sxxooooOoOozzzzzzzzzzsssssssssssssssszzzz...*BROOOOOOMMMMmmmmmmm rattle.


:evil: Oh...pfffft...what the hells yer problem? That's over a block away! chickenshit. ..it's safe here. :evil:

shyykatt 01-23-2007 09:09 AM

I understand now . I was under the impression that it wasn't legitimate. Thanx. :wink:

Useless 01-24-2007 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by shyykatt
I understand now . I was under the impression that it wasn't legitimate. Thanx. :wink:

......Not exactly a non-legitimate venture, Shykat!!....just VERY speculative, and VERY high risk.......

If you get a call from someone trying to hawk this, hang up. E-Mails are usually spam....junk mail....well, JUNK says it all!!

So, how many people got rich off of this tonight????? :P

shyykatt 01-24-2007 02:21 PM

Yeah, I've not heard from the relatives yet, so I am assuming they have either left the country, or everything is still ho-hum. :lol: Will be interesting to see what happens, if anything. :wink:

yoopr 01-24-2007 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Useless

Originally Posted by shyykatt
I understand now . I was under the impression that it wasn't legitimate. Thanx. :wink:

......Not exactly a non-legitimate venture, Shykat!!....just VERY speculative, and VERY high risk.......

If you get a call from someone trying to hawk this, hang up. E-Mails are usually spam....junk mail....well, JUNK says it all!!

So, how many people got rich off of this tonight????? :P

All I know is that when I smuggled my Dinar out of Iraq it was kinda highly Illegal.

shyykatt 01-24-2007 03:06 PM

Thats the old stuff right?(w/Sadummys pic)

Its a collectible now right? :D

yoopr 01-24-2007 03:12 PM

the Old Dinar was Supposed to be turned in for new. Taking currency out of Iraq is Illegal.

Useless 01-24-2007 03:15 PM

Hi, Shyykatt!!

There are any number of reasons why this type of investment is inappropriate for the vast majority of people. BTW, not meaning to brag, but I have been Blessed with a considerable degree of financial success in life. The reason that I make a point of that is not to brag, but because those types of investment vehicles are not even right for ME!!

The downside of these types of schemes is that they are usually presented to potential clients as being a sure fire thing. That should be your first red flag; once you hear that, hang up the phone.

In the options and commodities markets, about 20% of the investors win, and the other 80% lose. In currency trading, the margins of success are even slimmer.

So, why would anyone even do it??? Because even one win can provide an extraordinary payout!! What you must remember, though, is that the investors who come out on top are very well studied, and very well versed in those venues of investment. They know the markets, they know who to deal with, and who to stay away from, and they tend to have strong backgrounds not only in economics, but in geo-political affairs as well.

So, it would be a misnomer to call the idea of commodities trading, or currency trading a "scam". At the same time, if someone calls you wanting to offer such an opportunity, you should view THEIR actions, proposals, and promises as a scam.

The ONLY time someone should consider this type of venture is if he/she can afford to literally flush their money down the toilet. Unless you are VERY well read, and versed, or just extraordinarily lucky, don't even consider getting into this. Seriously, you'd fair higher odds going to the casinos, and you'd have more fun, too!!!!

I was a bit disturbed to hear you make mention of your parents involvement here. Hopefully, this won't hurt them. At the same time, Senior Citizens with limited financial resources are frequently targeted for these types of scams, with promises of enormous returns.Considering how much many of them spend on prescription medication, as well as things like increased monthly utility bills, property taxes, and low returns on "safe" investments, many of them are extremely vulnerable to falling prey to these monetary predators!! They are often urged to cash in C.D.'s liquidate other financial resources, run up a credit card balances, or even take out a second mortgage on their homes!!

I hope that your parents will be okay; from what I am gathering from your postings, it does not sound like they placed a lot of money at risk.

Hope this helps!!

Peace,
Useless

shyykatt 01-24-2007 03:15 PM

Just curiouse, how long were you there for/what did you do? My brother is leaving for Iraq in about a month- kinda scary.

yoopr 01-24-2007 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by shyykatt
Just curiouse, how long were you there for/what did you do? My brother is leaving for Iraq in about a month- kinda scary.

a Year-Tanker driver hauling JP8 Fuel to every base in the Sunni Triangle.

shyykatt 01-25-2007 12:31 AM

Thank U for the info Useless; It's not my parents though, its actually some in-laws that are doing this. I'm not 'in' on it at all (too poor!) :D

Jackrabbit379 01-25-2007 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by yoopr
All I know is that when I smuggled my Dinar out of Iraq it was kinda highly Illegal.

You smuggled what? :shock: :P

Twilight Flyer 01-25-2007 03:13 AM

Dinar.

From what I gather, it was Roasted Camel under Glass, paprika potatoes, and goat milk.

Jackrabbit379 01-25-2007 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Dinar.

From what I gather, it was Roasted Camel under Glass, paprika potatoes, and goat milk.

Hmm. Sounds tasty. :shock:

yoopr 01-25-2007 04:51 AM

I did eat Camel Meat once in Iraq-It was very dry(and no that isn't a Joke) :P

Jackrabbit379 01-25-2007 05:02 AM

I can imagine it was dry. Bet it would be tough,too. :P

yoopr 01-25-2007 05:14 AM

the Iraqi's ground it up and there was a sauce you added to it but it was STILL Dry :P

Jackrabbit379 01-25-2007 05:40 AM

:lol: :lol:

Doctor Who 01-25-2007 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by yoopr
the Iraqi's ground it up and there was a sauce you added to it but it was STILL Dry :P

Hmmm, It sounds similar to the food Wendy's sells

yoopr 01-25-2007 08:26 AM

I like Wendy's and their meat is juicy compared to Camel. Camel is rather tasteless too.

shyykatt 01-25-2007 01:17 PM

Yummy. Is it true that sometimes 'soup of the day' contains dog meat and boiled dog skulls?

Roadhog 01-26-2007 02:33 AM

DRY.... :? Soooooooooooo d-r-y. :?



So sooo dry...I'm fartin' popcorn.

Jackrabbit379 01-26-2007 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by roadhog
DRY.... :? Soooooooooooo d-r-y. :?



So sooo dry...I'm fartin' popcorn.

Man,that is dry :P

Windwalker 01-27-2007 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by yoopr
Relatives were talking about the Dinar or Iraq?
Look at the Dinar like people look at investing in the Stock Market. You expect your stock to go up but if it doesn't don't invest in that particular stock more than you can afford to lose.

Ask Admore Farms Forever about it. I think he was the one that said he was going to invest in FLOOSE. Personally, I think it's a scam. Or, you could be financing AL QUEDA. Could even be a way to try to BOLSTER the dinar. Maybe I'm just being too pesimistic, but I'd bet it's a scam.


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