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Mackman 11-18-2006 12:21 PM

OOIDA
 
Just want to see who is in the OOIDA i just join today :)

What do you think about them.

Blacksheep 11-19-2006 04:16 AM

Welcome aboard, well worth the price of admission. 8)

floored 11-19-2006 07:55 AM

Haven't used them for anything, since I'm running local now I doubt i will renew my membership. The newsletters are good to read sometimes though ;)

Mackman 11-19-2006 07:59 AM

I like the land line a buddy of mine gave me a copy and thats what got me to join.

Rev.Vassago 11-19-2006 12:17 PM

OREIDA is the biggest waste of money. Their lawyers are pathetic, their causes are silly, and their tactics are questionable. Just sayin'.

Jackrabbit379 11-19-2006 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
OREIDA is the biggest waste of money. Their lawyers are pathetic, their causes are silly, and their tactics are questionable. Just sayin'.

OREIDA :lol: Reminds me of,tator tots :P

Jay B. Swift 11-19-2006 02:54 PM

Ya wasted your money on that there OODA group.

kreeper01 11-20-2006 04:55 AM

You all sure OOida is a waste of time and money?

If it wasn't for OOida, over 95% of the BS, we as drivers, have to deal with will be dormat for eternity. The Govnerment we have in place wants us to think in the same wavelinkth as them.

That is why i refer to the U.S. Govnerment as: "Dumba*#es in Congress"!!!!

traveler15301 11-20-2006 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by kreeper01
That is why i refer to the U.S. Govnerment as: "Dumba*#es in Congress"!!!!

To join or not is up to the individual...personally I joined. I may not like everything they do or the way they do it...but I feel better being a member.

As for the dumba*#es in congress...you should watch what you say....there are plenty a nice dumba*# out there who might take offence to being compared to the slime in the legislature!!!

ken_o 11-20-2006 06:41 AM

ooida is well worth the measly membership fee everyyear.

Rev.Vassago 11-20-2006 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by kreeper01
You all sure OOida is a waste of time and money?

If it wasn't for OOida, over 95% of the BS, we as drivers, have to deal with will be dormat for eternity.

Name 10 things that OOIDA has done for the trucking industry as a whole.

11-20-2006 09:09 AM

1 FOught for fuel surcharges for O/O. 2 Fought for detetion time. 3. Opposes any kind of onboard electronic data recorders. 3. Fights for truth in leases to prevent carriers form ripping off O/O. Rev there are alot more than 10 but I have to run called get your head out of the sand and get out of the ATA,

Rev.Vassago 11-20-2006 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
1 FOught for fuel surcharges for O/O.

There were FSC long before OOIDA came along, and there will be FSC long after.


2 Fought for detetion time.
Please cite an example of how they succeeded in this.


3. Opposes any kind of onboard electronic data recorders.
So do I. Now send ME money too.


3. Fights for truth in leases to prevent carriers form ripping off O/O.
There is one.


Rev there are alot more than 10 but I have to run called get your head out of the sand and get out of the ATA,
I'm not in the ATA, and don't support the ATA. OOIDA and the ATA are more similar than you can imagine.

ben45750 11-20-2006 11:21 AM

What has OOIDA accomplished?

OOIDA has made great strides during the past 30 years, but we believe the biggest accomplishments are those yet to come.

* In the 70’s, new member benefit programs were added to provide big fleet prices and benefits to small-business truckdrivers. Helping truckers to trim costs and maximize per-mile revenue was (and continues to be) a priority.
* OOIDA worked throughout the 70’s to bring the problems of professional truckers to the attention of lawmakers in Congressional hearings. These hearings resulted in the creation of the leasing regulations that still exist today.
* Additionally, in 1974, and again in 1979, OOIDA was instrumental in getting mandatory fuel surcharge programs for truckers put in place.
* During much of the 80’s, OOIDA worked towards gaining fair tax treatment from individual states. Lawsuits were filed against many states that set up discriminatory tax plans toward owner-operators and millions of dollars were ultimately returned to business owners.
* OOIDA also regularly fought attempts by the US DOT to strip the rights of truckers at random roadside stops and inspections.
* OOIDA’s strong lobbying efforts paid off in 1982 when nationwide uniform truck size and weight limits were established by Congress through the Surface Transportation Assistance Act. Later, the Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act of 1991 (ISTEA) froze the weight of longer combination vehicles and limited them to routes that were allowed by the states.
* Beginning in the early 90’s, OOIDA challenged the abusive practices of the Tennessee Public Service Commission toward drivers. A few years later, OOIDA (and all drivers) won this battle and the Tennessee PSC was abolished.
* In the mid-90’s, OOIDA was able to convince lawmakers that individual states should decide speed limits—not the U.S. Congress. OOIDA pushed for this change in the law with the help of the National Motorists Association, and over the objections of the American Trucking Association. Still today, you will not find another organization that fights for uniform speed limits or the abolishment of split speed limits for truckers on a consistent basis.
* After the ICC was dissolved, OOIDA fought hard to preserve protections for owner-operators and our efforts paid off as the ICC Termination Act included provisions to retain the truth-in-leasing regulations, allowing truckers to settle carrier disputes by filing a civil suit.
* In recent years, OOIDA attorneys have been focused on stopping the many violations of the leasing regulations that occur in owner-operator leasing contracts. OOIDA continues to file more lawsuits against motor carriers and several states in order to fight unfair and illegal treatment of drivers, violation of lumping laws, and private right of action, as well as double taxation.
* OOIDA continues to work on a number of important trucking issues as lawmakers consider highway programs for the next several years.
* We are fighting efforts to eliminate all regulations that currently apply to transportation brokers as has been proposed by the Bush Administration. We believe there should be far greater oversight…not less.
* We continue to push for creation of more rest areas through any and all means available.
* We are opposing efforts to turn our interstate highways into toll roads while pursuing opportunities to allow truckers to offset their increased costs for fuel, etc., through all available means.
* We are fighting efforts to divert highway tax money to non-highway related purposes.
* We are encouraging lawmakers to pursue a remedy to all of the lost time of drivers in the loading and unloading environment, and how this situation contributes to non-compliance with the rules, and highway safety.
* OOIDA is also pushing for comprehensive mandatory training for entry-level drivers--the kind of training that will teach new drivers to be safe and to comply with the rules—the kind of training that will ultimately elevate the caliber of people seeking to enter this industry as drivers.

http://www.ooida.com/about_us/about_us.html

Rev.Vassago 11-20-2006 11:41 AM

I think that OOIDA is taking credit for a lot of things they either had no hand in, or played a very small role in.

truckerdave 11-20-2006 03:45 PM

I am a member and I appreciate all they do on the legislative front, Unfortunately I have gone to them on a few personal matters and they have done absolutely nothing to help me out.

This is quite disappointing as all you hear on XM171 and 173 is praise about all they have done to help others with their problems. I will however, renew my membership for the work they do in Washington and I also enjoy Landline.

11-20-2006 06:14 PM

I just love how my membership dues go to their CRACKERJACK lobbyists and attorneys.

ken_o 11-20-2006 08:09 PM

rev. i know your not this simple minded. the association known as ooida is
known for standing up not only for drivers but for commensense as a whole after the recent bs from schneider, wh,covenant ,dart,covenant,roadblahblah and other carriers they were the first ones to respond to their misfitted petition that we all have heard of. also for keeping r roads toll free as well as a plentiful list of other cases which include the likes of cr england and landstar with their improper lease purchase deals as well as fsc scams that follow.
lets all be reminded lobbyist arent free. if the federal goverment isnt working for you, or the the teamtsers, you have only two other choices ooida or yourself. JOIN

Rev.Vassago 11-21-2006 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by ken_o
rev. i know your not this simple minded. the association known as ooida is
known for standing up not only for drivers but for commensense as a whole after the recent bs from schneider, wh,covenant ,dart,covenant,roadblahblah and other carriers they were the first ones to respond to their misfitted petition that we all have heard of.

Which is the ONE place where I will give them credit. But since I am not leased, nor will I ever be leased, to any of those companies, I see no reason to fund them.


also for keeping r roads toll free
How so? By calling for those ridiculous "boycotts"? :roll:


as well as a plentiful list of other cases which include the likes of cr england and landstar with their improper lease purchase deals as well as fsc scams that follow.
So people leased to CRE and Landstarve should join OOIDA.


lets all be reminded lobbyist arent free. if the federal goverment isnt working for you, or the the teamtsers, you have only two other choices ooida or yourself. JOIN
NAIT. Just sayin'.

kreeper01 11-21-2006 07:52 AM

I have to agree with Ben here, what he mentioned is well worth it.

Yes, i am an OOida member, and proud to be one. However, what i am not proud of is how those "Dumba*#es in Congress" keep throwing things out then get it pitched back to them.

Rev., With all due respect, i do not like your tone on this subject. Yes, there were things like the FSC in place well before OOida. If it wasn't for OOida being in place, half the stuff Ben wrote below would be shelved before it got to the drawing board. There are about 150,000 people who support OOida and i am 1 out of those 150,000. However, it is up to the individual where they stand as far as OOida vs. The Federal Govnerment is concerned. If it wasn't for OOida, the Feds would deregulate trucking some more and us drivers would be out of work, working for maybe $.05 on the dollar per mile instead of an average of $.30 a mile.

If the Federal Govnerment left well enough alone and allowed company drivers and Owner/Operators making $1.50 a mile, we all be happy.


Originally Posted by ben45750
What has OOIDA accomplished?

OOIDA has made great strides during the past 30 years, but we believe the biggest accomplishments are those yet to come.

* In the 70’s, new member benefit programs were added to provide big fleet prices and benefits to small-business truckdrivers. Helping truckers to trim costs and maximize per-mile revenue was (and continues to be) a priority.
* OOIDA worked throughout the 70’s to bring the problems of professional truckers to the attention of lawmakers in Congressional hearings. These hearings resulted in the creation of the leasing regulations that still exist today.
* Additionally, in 1974, and again in 1979, OOIDA was instrumental in getting mandatory fuel surcharge programs for truckers put in place.
* During much of the 80’s, OOIDA worked towards gaining fair tax treatment from individual states. Lawsuits were filed against many states that set up discriminatory tax plans toward owner-operators and millions of dollars were ultimately returned to business owners.
* OOIDA also regularly fought attempts by the US DOT to strip the rights of truckers at random roadside stops and inspections.
* OOIDA’s strong lobbying efforts paid off in 1982 when nationwide uniform truck size and weight limits were established by Congress through the Surface Transportation Assistance Act. Later, the Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act of 1991 (ISTEA) froze the weight of longer combination vehicles and limited them to routes that were allowed by the states.
* Beginning in the early 90’s, OOIDA challenged the abusive practices of the Tennessee Public Service Commission toward drivers. A few years later, OOIDA (and all drivers) won this battle and the Tennessee PSC was abolished.
* In the mid-90’s, OOIDA was able to convince lawmakers that individual states should decide speed limits—not the U.S. Congress. OOIDA pushed for this change in the law with the help of the National Motorists Association, and over the objections of the American Trucking Association. Still today, you will not find another organization that fights for uniform speed limits or the abolishment of split speed limits for truckers on a consistent basis.
* After the ICC was dissolved, OOIDA fought hard to preserve protections for owner-operators and our efforts paid off as the ICC Termination Act included provisions to retain the truth-in-leasing regulations, allowing truckers to settle carrier disputes by filing a civil suit.
* In recent years, OOIDA attorneys have been focused on stopping the many violations of the leasing regulations that occur in owner-operator leasing contracts. OOIDA continues to file more lawsuits against motor carriers and several states in order to fight unfair and illegal treatment of drivers, violation of lumping laws, and private right of action, as well as double taxation.
* OOIDA continues to work on a number of important trucking issues as lawmakers consider highway programs for the next several years.
* We are fighting efforts to eliminate all regulations that currently apply to transportation brokers as has been proposed by the Bush Administration. We believe there should be far greater oversight…not less.
* We continue to push for creation of more rest areas through any and all means available.
* We are opposing efforts to turn our interstate highways into toll roads while pursuing opportunities to allow truckers to offset their increased costs for fuel, etc., through all available means.
* We are fighting efforts to divert highway tax money to non-highway related purposes.
* We are encouraging lawmakers to pursue a remedy to all of the lost time of drivers in the loading and unloading environment, and how this situation contributes to non-compliance with the rules, and highway safety.
* OOIDA is also pushing for comprehensive mandatory training for entry-level drivers--the kind of training that will teach new drivers to be safe and to comply with the rules—the kind of training that will ultimately elevate the caliber of people seeking to enter this industry as drivers.

http://www.ooida.com/about_us/about_us.html


ken_o 11-21-2006 09:56 AM

what has nait done of late?.
http://www.naitusa.com/CAM/Newslette...0&Task=Default
according to this you can join with jenny and also learn how to make oriental chicken wings.
bravo rev NAIT

ben45750 11-21-2006 10:15 AM

hmmmmm..... Could be a new spokes person position for Kristy Alley?

Rev.Vassago 11-21-2006 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ken_o
what has nait done of late?.

I don't know, and I don't care. I don't support any of those organizations, and I never will.

ken_o 11-21-2006 04:28 PM

comeon give ooida another chance

mikey4069 11-25-2006 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I think that OOIDA is taking credit for a lot of things they either had no hand in, or played a very small role in.

I think someone belongs to the ATA .

solo379 11-26-2006 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
OREIDA is the biggest waste of money.

Well Rev, i'm a member, since 1997, so, i've paid about $400, in membersip fee.
When i've bought my KW(about the same time, you got your Pete), i've got a $1,000.00 rebate, trough OOIDA(Pete's got the same+$500 chrom shop credit)

So, who is wasted the money? :P :lol:

Rev.Vassago 11-26-2006 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by solo379

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
OREIDA is the biggest waste of money.

Well Rev, i'm a member, since 1997, so, i've paid about $400, in membersip fee.
When i've bought my KW(about the same time, you got your Pete), i've got a $1,000.00 rebate, trough OOIDA(Pete's got the same+$500 chrom shop credit)

So, who is wasted the money? :P :lol:

Not me. I would not have been able to take advantage of that rebate when I bought my truck, and I paid about $53,000 below the sticker price on it anyway. Just sayin'. :wink:

Teal 95 KW 12-01-2006 09:06 AM

I think someone should have put that $1,000 rebate towards brushing up their english skills. Just sayin' ;)

solo379 12-01-2006 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Teal 95 KW
I think someone should have put that $1,000 rebate towards brushing up their english skills. Just sayin' ;)

And what's wrong with it?

Son, i'm a truck driver, i've been doing that, before you were born!
I've got paid to drive, not to talk, but it really breaks my heart, that you can't understand me! :P
So, FO! :wink:

Teal 95 KW 12-01-2006 02:59 PM

HAHA...Just gotta bust chops every now and then! Can't let everyone have a incident free day.

Justruckin 12-02-2006 01:13 PM

I stay with them for the magazine. The few times I have attempted to inquire about their services and have never gotten through to anyone, just a mailbox. And no one has ever returned my call.

I take that back, they did call me back regarding an insurance policy. But we never made it to actually getting a quote. The reason I never actually got a quote, was the fact that some of the carriers I occasionally broker with, will not accept the OOIDA cargo insurance. So they were a no go right off the bat.

And in all reality, I cannot say that I have seen them actually do anything for the industry other then going after Prime and Landstar. OOIDA actually reminds me of a union, they collect the money and it all kinda escapes into thin air. I really do not know what they do, or offer, other then a magazine subscription.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Justruckin 12-02-2006 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by ben45750
What has OOIDA accomplished?

OOIDA has made great strides during the past 30 years, but we believe the biggest accomplishments are those yet to come.

* In the 70’s, new member benefit programs were added to provide big fleet prices and benefits to small-business truckdrivers. Helping truckers to trim costs and maximize per-mile revenue was...

I take the above back, I guess I should maybe do some reading instead of looking at the pretty pictures! :?

Rev.Vassago 12-02-2006 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Justruckin

Originally Posted by ben45750
What has OOIDA accomplished?

OOIDA has made great strides during the past 30 years, but we believe the biggest accomplishments are those yet to come.

* In the 70’s, new member benefit programs were added to provide big fleet prices and benefits to small-business truckdrivers. Helping truckers to trim costs and maximize per-mile revenue was...

I take the above back, I guess I should maybe do some reading instead of looking at the pretty pictures! :?

I take my criticism of them back as well.

They make great tater tots.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ago1/ooida.jpg

Big John 12-03-2006 11:37 AM

Jay B. Swift wrote

Ya wasted your money on that there OODA group.
Must be Rev. Jr. :lol:

The Rev. wrote:

Not me. I would not have been able to take advantage of that rebate when I bought my truck, and I paid about $53,000 below the sticker price on it anyway. Just sayin'.
The Rev. is so full of it, on every forum he is on he likes to spread the BS and tell everyone he is the best owner operator their is, makes the most money, buys the best eqipment and pays less then anyone else. I will refer to you as the Golden Boy Rev. You are the man!

Teal 95 KW 12-03-2006 12:44 PM

Stop being a douche John....always has to be a hater somewhere....


You can be a dick here, but you're "cool" over on LargeCarMag...way to go. :roll: Always posting pics of the company rides at your company etc.

Rev.Vassago 12-03-2006 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Big John
The Rev. is so full of it, on every forum he is on he likes to spread the BS and tell everyone he is the best owner operator their is,

I am. So there. And it's THERE, not THEIR.


makes the most money, buys the best eqipment and pays less then anyone else. I will refer to you as the Golden Boy Rev. You are the man!
Damn straight. You said it, not me.

Big John 12-03-2006 03:55 PM

O' Rev. I new you would respond with a good comeback. Hope everything is going good in your world. I must have pissed in Teal 95 KW's Post Toasties he called me a Dick and a Douche, very upsetting. :lol:

Teal 95 KW 12-03-2006 03:59 PM

Not hardly. :lol: I post over on LCM as J_Adkins, threw the reference out there to see if you'd say anything about it.

Big John 12-03-2006 04:27 PM

Well hello Mr. Adkins.


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