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Slimland 08-31-2006 12:34 PM

Understanding English!
 
I would like to discuss the english language, actualy the spelling of it.
As You all know, I don't spell to good, Never could grasp the concept of Nouns, pronouns, verbs, action verbs.
I learned more from "conjunction junction whats your function" than school, and still at my age, I do not get it!!

Words

Good and the word Food!

They both have the last three letters but sound diffrent when pronouncing.

so food should be fud, or good should be goed!

knive's shouldn't have a K if it is silent, the letter is just sitn there!

poor and pore-- Enough said on that one.

Bud and bud light, don't they weigh the same? :lol:

Tire and Tire, mean diffrent things on is you tire'd the other is a tire.

peer, tyre-- why can't it be pyre or teer.

canopea, why cant it be a can of corn.

stern and learn, what about lern or stearn.

????????????????????????????

Roadhog 08-31-2006 12:37 PM

Just push 1..(uno)...for English. :lol:



Texican.....awl

damn Yankee.....oil

Highwayman 08-31-2006 04:34 PM

Sanction.

It can be either a positive thing (a race sanctioned by NASCAR):
or a negative thing (The gov't will impose sanctions on those who do not comply with..).


Laughter.
Pronounced: LAFF-ter.
Add an "S" and it become Slaughter - pronounced: SLAW-ter.

Go figure.


Probably irrelevant in the near future anyway.

Tenemos que aprender espanol!!

bulldog2036 09-01-2006 01:48 AM

No. Los cabrones ilegales tienen que aprender Ingles...'nuff said!!

Roadhog 09-01-2006 02:29 AM

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heheheh...guess I swerved and weaved this into a Texan/vs. Non-Texan....and then Engleeesh/vs. TexMexican ....oi vey. :shock:


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Engleesh...whatta I need to learn Engleesh for...I'm never going to England.....Homer Simpson.
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wot? me worry?
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littleman2 09-01-2006 03:53 AM

Re: Understanding English!
 

Originally Posted by Slimland
I would like to discuss the english language, actualy the spelling of it.
As You all know, I don't spell to good, Never could grasp the concept of Nouns, pronouns, verbs, action verbs.
I learned more from "conjunction junction whats your function" than school, and still at my age, I do not get it!!

Words

Good and the word Food!

They both have the last three letters but sound diffrent when pronouncing.

so food should be fud, or good should be goed!

knive's shouldn't have a K if it is silent, the letter is just sitn there!

poor and pore-- Enough said on that one.

Bud and bud light, don't they weigh the same? :lol:

Tire and Tire, mean diffrent things on is you tire'd the other is a tire.

peer, tyre-- why can't it be pyre or teer.

canopea, why cant it be a can of corn.

stern and learn, what about lern or stearn.

????????????????????????????

Quit qouting gallager I seen that act back in the mid 80's
and if your going to do Gallager start smashing watermellons :D :lol:

09-01-2006 04:57 AM

I had the top down on my car and there was a construction guy standing in the middle of the road with a sign that said SLOW and STOP on the other side. As I drove by I said, shouldn't that be in Spanish also. He just about walked off the job laughing.

Slimland 09-01-2006 02:24 PM



Originally Posted by SteveBooth
I had the top down on my car and there was a construction guy standing in the middle of the road with a sign that said SLOW and STOP on the other side. As I drove by I said, shouldn't that be in Spanish also. He just about walked off the job laughing.


My favorite sign was "Slow Children Playing" man that is cruel.

Slimland 09-01-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Understanding English!
 

Quit qouting gallager I seen that act back in the mid 80's
and if your going to do Gallager start smashing watermellons :D :lol:
[/quote]

Nice to chat with ya Littleman, been a long time!
As for Gallager, I never knew he did this, don't much care for him.

As for the subject, those are real subjects and things I truly do not understand.

Jackrabbit379 09-01-2006 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by roadhog
Texican.....awl

Yesser. Gotta change my awl in my truck,and then I need to warsh it.

I also gotta get a new set of tars too. :P

golfhobo 09-02-2006 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379

Originally Posted by roadhog
Texican.....awl

Yesser. Gotta change my awl in my truck,and then I need to warsh it.

I also gotta get a new set of tars too. :P

When you've finished all that hard work, won't you be glad to have a nice cold glass of Assed Tay!! :lol:

RockyMtnProDriver 09-02-2006 10:22 AM

Re: Understanding English!
 

Originally Posted by Slimland
I would like to discuss the english language, actualy the spelling of it.
As You all know, I don't spell to good, Never could grasp the concept of Nouns, pronouns, verbs, action verbs.
I learned more from "conjunction junction whats your function" than school, and still at my age, I do not get it!!

Words

Good and the word Food!

They both have the last three letters but sound diffrent when pronouncing.

so food should be fud, or good should be goed!

knive's shouldn't have a K if it is silent, the letter is just sitn there!

poor and pore-- Enough said on that one.

Bud and bud light, don't they weigh the same? :lol:

Tire and Tire, mean diffrent things on is you tire'd the other is a tire.

peer, tyre-- why can't it be pyre or teer.

canopea, why cant it be a can of corn.

stern and learn, what about lern or stearn.

????????????????????????????

Eh???

Consider 09-02-2006 12:58 PM

Well, in England they spell it tyre.

And if I rememer correctly, curb... is ... darn it... I can't quite remember.

Kerb... that may be it.

I don't know where my "English" dictionary is.

I think about this same thing you're writing about a lot.

I wonder if it's because different words come from different languages.

I pronounce alot of things differently than most people ... I think that's because grandpa had a grocery store and spoke a lot of languages... so around the house, when they weren't speaking Polish, they used the words that sounded most like the language they came from.

Foyer... for example. Lots of people say, foy er

I learned it as ... darn it... now I can't remember how to say it...

darn it.

Foy A maybe. I think that's it. More like Foy E A the E A part real fast in comparison to the Foy part.

Living in England was a trip. (ha)

I gave a dinner party pretty soon after I got there, and I had no idea what people were talking about. Just when I'd be pretty sure I'd gotten it, they'd all laugh. And then I'd know that it wasn't what I'd thought because that wasnt' funny.

Consider 09-02-2006 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379

Originally Posted by roadhog
Texican.....awl

Yesser. Gotta change my awl in my truck,and then I need to warsh it.

I also gotta get a new set of tars too. :P

I was thinking, now why does he need an awl in the truck...

MACK 09-02-2006 01:58 PM

Re: Understanding English!
 

Originally Posted by RockyMtnProDriver

Originally Posted by Slimland
I would like to discuss the english language, actualy the spelling of it.
As You all know, I don't spell to good, Never could grasp the concept of Nouns, pronouns, verbs, action verbs.
I learned more from "conjunction junction whats your function" than school, and still at my age, I do not get it!!

Words

Good and the word Food!

They both have the last three letters but sound diffrent when pronouncing.

so food should be fud, or good should be goed!

knive's shouldn't have a K if it is silent, the letter is just sitn there!

poor and pore-- Enough said on that one.

Bud and bud light, don't they weigh the same? :lol:

Tire and Tire, mean diffrent things on is you tire'd the other is a tire.

peer, tyre-- why can't it be pyre or teer.

canopea, why cant it be a can of corn.

stern and learn, what about lern or stearn.

????????????????????????????

Eh???

Good sombody understands as much as I do.

Jackrabbit379 09-03-2006 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by golfhobo
When you've finished all that hard work, won't you be glad to have a nice cold glass of Assed Tay!! :lol:

:P

Consider 09-03-2006 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379

Originally Posted by golfhobo
When you've finished all that hard work, won't you be glad to have a nice cold glass of Assed Tay!! :lol:

:P

:lol:

I missed this first time around, I was so curious about how an awl is used in a truck....

golfhobo 09-03-2006 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Consider

Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379

Originally Posted by golfhobo
When you've finished all that hard work, won't you be glad to have a nice cold glass of Assed Tay!! :lol:

:P

:lol:

I missed this first time around, I was so curious about how an awl is used in a truck....

He never said AN "awl," he said: AWL!!! You know!!! Black Gold! Texas Tea!! Like.... take a shawar, and change the AWL in your har!! :lol: :lol:

Consider 09-03-2006 05:57 PM

Thanks Golf,
Yes, I did finally get it.
but by that time I'd missed the Assed tay.

What a lovely thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wot i life 09-04-2006 01:10 AM

Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Slimland 09-04-2006 03:15 AM



Originally Posted by wot i life
Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!

Consider 09-04-2006 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by wot i life
Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:) Love it!!

I went to see R.D. Laing once, the fairly famous psychiatrist. And he listened to me with his eyes closed, so I said, "Are you listening? I'm going to ask questions later!"

At the time I was really upset about the English. I felt they were all around... (I lived in London) and that they were a bit of a threat. The lady downstairs was a major threat... okay, I digress.

Then I began explaining how my son spoke with an English accent, and how it was like... okay, so you can sort of see where I'm going with this...

Anyway, Laing said, in this Scottish brogue that was so thick it nearly clogged the entire room, "Accents de nay mattah."

I just loved it!!!!!!!!

Consider 09-04-2006 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by Slimland


Originally Posted by wot i life
Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!

I'm just throwing this in here, for the sake of perspective.

When I lived in London, I lived with John, a topologist. Topology is the study of what's a knot and what's not a knot, is how he put it. I met him when he was here thinking for our government. Pure mathematics, is what topology is.

Okay, so John was sent away to boarding school when he was 5 so that he would not learn to speak in the local accent. I think it was the Cottswolds where they lived at the time. But I forget.

In any case, John suffered from depression all of his life (I don't know how he is doing now) and I can't help but think that being separated from his family when so young played a part...

He of course speaks with a beautiful OxBridge accent, though.

Slimland 09-04-2006 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Consider

Originally Posted by Slimland


Originally Posted by wot i life
Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!


I'm just throwing this in here, for the sake of perspective.

When I lived in London, I lived with John, a topologist. Topology is the study of what's a knot and what's not a knot, is how he put it. I met him when he was here thinking for our government. Pure mathematics, is what topology is.

Okay, so John was sent away to boarding school when he was 5 so that he would not learn to speak in the local accent. I think it was the Cottswolds where they lived at the time. But I forget.

In any case, John suffered from depression all of his life (I don't know how he is doing now) and I can't help but think that being separated from his family when so young played a part...

He of course speaks with a beautiful OxBridge accent, though.



NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

Consider 09-04-2006 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Slimland

Originally Posted by Consider

Originally Posted by Slimland


Originally Posted by wot i life
Slim my friend, enunciation is a matter for the individual. I have a very broad "Geordie" accent and frequently struggle to make myself understood in most parts of southern england....
Am i bothered? Hadaway n shite! :lol: :lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol: Yes as for accents I to have one, known as the souther draw, and with a little hick aka "redneck".
When I was a kid, I had moved to Colorado, for a year and a half. Got nouthin but guff about the way I talked. But by the end of the year, my best frien was talking like I did! :lol: He would say "over Younder. the utterone, y'all, wichadidya,etc" just like the great Jeff Foxworthy, man that guy is right on the money.

Again soo good to chat withya!


I'm just throwing this in here, for the sake of perspective.

When I lived in London, I lived with John, a topologist. Topology is the study of what's a knot and what's not a knot, is how he put it. I met him when he was here thinking for our government. Pure mathematics, is what topology is.

Okay, so John was sent away to boarding school when he was 5 so that he would not learn to speak in the local accent. I think it was the Cottswolds where they lived at the time. But I forget.

In any case, John suffered from depression all of his life (I don't know how he is doing now) and I can't help but think that being separated from his family when so young played a part...

He of course speaks with a beautiful OxBridge accent, though.



NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!

Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?

Slimland 09-04-2006 04:04 AM


NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!
[/quote]


Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?

[/quote]

Ok-- Now I get it!!! :idea:

This makes more sense now, I am sorry.

Yes that is a heavy price to pay for language etikit. When I usualy talk to Doctors and such, I useta try to watch the way I speak, but then I realized they are no diffrent, and most don't have the chip on the shoulder, but there are a few.

As for your story, his parents must've been worried about what pthers thought of them. That is sad.

To be conformed to the world!

Consider 09-04-2006 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Slimland
NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!

But What? :lol:
Either I am not awake enough or this is just not right!
You said you where going to throw this in there for perspective :lol:
What was the point of this story? :lol:

I am not laughing at you-- I am laughing because I don't get it, but I read it and understand it, but dont get why you posted it?

Please take no offense!


Originally Posted by Consider
Oh... okay... I can see where I was a bit obtuse.

The idea behind My Fair Lady was that accents keep people in specific levels of society. The idea was that you change the accent, and you change the level of society...

Okay, so John's parents, John's dad was a minister, were motivated by that idea. They were afraid that John would talk like the wrong class of people unless they sent him away to school where he would learn the Right Accent. OxBridge is the Accent generally heard in people who went to Oxford or Cambridge universities.

The thing is... that in real life, John suffered from depression. That's quite a price to pay for having the correct accent. Think?


Originally Posted by Slimland
Ok-- Now I get it!!! :idea:

This makes more sense now, I am sorry.

Yes that is a heavy price to pay for language etikit. When I usualy talk to Doctors and such, I useta try to watch the way I speak, but then I realized they are no diffrent, and most don't have the chip on the shoulder, but there are a few.

As for your story, his parents must've been worried about what pthers thought of them. That is sad.

To be conformed to the world!

I like the way you separate the quotes, that is much clearer. But, boy is it hard to do that. I can't get it to work. This is my fifth edit....

Yes, a high price. But in fact, success in England in terms of university jobs, John was a professor at Durham shortly after I met him, the accent is important.

I've read many things about how doctors are influenced by the way that patients are dressed.


:)

Consider 09-05-2006 11:27 AM

Darn it!

Did I kill this thread?

I'm mortified!

Slimland 09-05-2006 01:22 PM



Originally Posted by Consider
Darn it!

Did I kill this thread?

I'm mortified!


I don't think you killed the thread! It is probly on its last dying leg anyway! :lol:

JBenson2 09-23-2006 04:47 AM

Multi-national personnel at NATO Headquarters near Paris found English to be an easy language... until they tried to pronounce it. To help them discard an array of accents, the verses below were devised. After trying them, a Frenchman said he?d prefer six months at hard labor to reading it aloud. Here is a reduced version of the full poem. Try it yourself.


ENGLISH IS TOUGH STUFF

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it?s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation?s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Finally, which rhymes with enough?
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

rikki_359 09-23-2006 06:56 AM

sheesh, I knew there were quite a few words kinda weird, but never thought of how many there were. The one I always liked, it's all in the pronunciation, is the English comedy 'Keeping Up Appearences' and Mrs. Bucket, as she decided it was the flower arrangement and not the pale of water. lol lol No wonder the mex won't learn it around here.

golfhobo 10-01-2006 07:57 AM

JBenson, that was hillarious! And it clearly shows why English is ONE of the hardest languages in the World to learn.


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