A Black President??
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#31
RebelDarlin , 06-17-2008 04:06 AM
09-08-2023Quote:
Who knows where some of these rumors get started? :?
One thing I'd worry more about is...
When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race. :P
We're already enslaved to the out of control welfare system!Originally Posted by roadhog
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McCain, on the other hand, has released his records, and has met the requirements, even though, he was born in Panama.
That's just an internet rumor...Originally Posted by Windwalker
`I don't have the link anymore, but I recently read that Obama may not be qualified to be President. He may not have fulfilled the 10 year residency requirement, with 5 years in the US after the age of 16. He has not released his birth records to show that he is qualified.McCain, on the other hand, has released his records, and has met the requirements, even though, he was born in Panama.
Who knows where some of these rumors get started? :?
One thing I'd worry more about is...
When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race. :P
#32
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I only own one, an FNH FNP-45 high capacity pistol. Though I do plan to acquire others in the future.
Are you one of those folks, who will insist that those are "sportsmen's" guns? If so..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
No, mine is for personal defense and target shooting. And since you have no clue and no business knowing what or why I LEGALLY OWN one I'll leave it at that.
If you are a hunter...then why would you feel the need to own a gun meant for only one thing...mass murder?
I'm not a hunter, but try not to fall to far off that high horse when you get knocked down.
I am a hunter...a .270, a 30.06, a .7mm, a .303, or even a 22-250 work great for long shot's. I like a 357 with a 9" barrel, as a pistol...Ruger Blackhawk. Am I concerned that any or all of those guns will be "otlawed"?? No.
Then you haven't been seeing what's been going on in Europe, Australia or Canada.
As for the rest..give em back to the military....which was what their original intent was.
No thanks, I have a right to own firearms. While I respect those who do not choose to exercise that right, do not presume to tell me what I will or will not do with my own property.
And if your argument is that you need one of those "Killer" guns for self-protection....I would ask...Why?
First of all guns are "killer" guns, that is their purpose, It is the user who kills with guns. It is you who must load the magazine. It is you how must insert the magazine into the weapon. It is you who must chamber the round. And it is you who must pull the trigger.
I believe in the individual's right to keep and bear arms.....but I don't believe that any individual needs to keep an arsenal that includes fully automatic weapons that are designed specificly for killing "Human" prey.
As others have stated there are very strict regulation regarding the sale of automatic weapons and the regulations regarding sale of other firearms are still pretty tight as well.
If you want to proclaim yourself a "collector"...then...collect guns worth collecting...say...a Sharps .50 caliber...1872 model...or a Colt .45 caliber..1860 model. I have a best friend...whom has the rifles and pistols that his great-great-great grandparents carried, when they migrated from New England to Montana....in 1823. Shotting an original "black powder" gun is an incredible experience. Far better than a "reproduction" model...and by the way....the "original" black powder weapons, are what the Constitution allows you to "keep & bear".
I seriously doubt that the fine men, whom wrote that important document, ever dreamed that one day there would be guns that a man could hold in his hand...and use to kill 100 people in seconds, instead of in days. I'm just not buying that argument.
If they could dream of what would be capable now is irrelevant. They made that amendment for the benefit of personal defense. Just look at history as others have demonstrated to see what happens when a populace is disarmed and when they are allowed to keep arms.
As for having weapons on hand, to beat down a rebellion by our military....give me a break...not gonna happen.
Probably not, but just remember that if someone tries to usurp the 2nd amendment, the Military will not help them enforce it. They swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.
On the orginal posted question....Obama would be a better choice (in my opinion) than McClain..and Hillary would be a better choice than Obama (again..in my opinion).
Is the country, as a whole prepared to elect and support a "black" president? If it isn't now......then it won't ever be.
Is Obama ready to run this country? I seriously do not know. Given the comments I hear from so many "African-Americans" and what they expect him to do for them...I would say no.
Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
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How true, I wouldn't vote for Obama or Clinton for one issue. Gun Control. Obama and Clinton have long anti-gun records and quite frankly I'm one of those "bitter" people who clings to guns. aka I practice my constitutional right to bear arms. These two must never see the oval office if America still values it's civil liberties.
Which guns do you need? AK47? Mac-10? M-16? Originally Posted by Ronin
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Obama is an extreme Left wing Liberal, non constitutionalist, and will turn our country into a Socialist state or near Socialist....some have compared him to a Marxist.
The country is definitly ready for a Black President or a Women President. Just NOT Obama or Clinton.
Originally Posted by Drew10
Double L wrote:Obama is an extreme Left wing Liberal, non constitutionalist, and will turn our country into a Socialist state or near Socialist....some have compared him to a Marxist.
The country is definitly ready for a Black President or a Women President. Just NOT Obama or Clinton.
How true, I wouldn't vote for Obama or Clinton for one issue. Gun Control. Obama and Clinton have long anti-gun records and quite frankly I'm one of those "bitter" people who clings to guns. aka I practice my constitutional right to bear arms. These two must never see the oval office if America still values it's civil liberties.
I only own one, an FNH FNP-45 high capacity pistol. Though I do plan to acquire others in the future.
Are you one of those folks, who will insist that those are "sportsmen's" guns? If so..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
No, mine is for personal defense and target shooting. And since you have no clue and no business knowing what or why I LEGALLY OWN one I'll leave it at that.
If you are a hunter...then why would you feel the need to own a gun meant for only one thing...mass murder?
I'm not a hunter, but try not to fall to far off that high horse when you get knocked down.
I am a hunter...a .270, a 30.06, a .7mm, a .303, or even a 22-250 work great for long shot's. I like a 357 with a 9" barrel, as a pistol...Ruger Blackhawk. Am I concerned that any or all of those guns will be "otlawed"?? No.
Then you haven't been seeing what's been going on in Europe, Australia or Canada.
As for the rest..give em back to the military....which was what their original intent was.
No thanks, I have a right to own firearms. While I respect those who do not choose to exercise that right, do not presume to tell me what I will or will not do with my own property.
And if your argument is that you need one of those "Killer" guns for self-protection....I would ask...Why?
First of all guns are "killer" guns, that is their purpose, It is the user who kills with guns. It is you who must load the magazine. It is you how must insert the magazine into the weapon. It is you who must chamber the round. And it is you who must pull the trigger.
I believe in the individual's right to keep and bear arms.....but I don't believe that any individual needs to keep an arsenal that includes fully automatic weapons that are designed specificly for killing "Human" prey.
As others have stated there are very strict regulation regarding the sale of automatic weapons and the regulations regarding sale of other firearms are still pretty tight as well.
If you want to proclaim yourself a "collector"...then...collect guns worth collecting...say...a Sharps .50 caliber...1872 model...or a Colt .45 caliber..1860 model. I have a best friend...whom has the rifles and pistols that his great-great-great grandparents carried, when they migrated from New England to Montana....in 1823. Shotting an original "black powder" gun is an incredible experience. Far better than a "reproduction" model...and by the way....the "original" black powder weapons, are what the Constitution allows you to "keep & bear".
I seriously doubt that the fine men, whom wrote that important document, ever dreamed that one day there would be guns that a man could hold in his hand...and use to kill 100 people in seconds, instead of in days. I'm just not buying that argument.
If they could dream of what would be capable now is irrelevant. They made that amendment for the benefit of personal defense. Just look at history as others have demonstrated to see what happens when a populace is disarmed and when they are allowed to keep arms.
As for having weapons on hand, to beat down a rebellion by our military....give me a break...not gonna happen.
Probably not, but just remember that if someone tries to usurp the 2nd amendment, the Military will not help them enforce it. They swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.
On the orginal posted question....Obama would be a better choice (in my opinion) than McClain..and Hillary would be a better choice than Obama (again..in my opinion).
Is the country, as a whole prepared to elect and support a "black" president? If it isn't now......then it won't ever be.
Is Obama ready to run this country? I seriously do not know. Given the comments I hear from so many "African-Americans" and what they expect him to do for them...I would say no.
#33
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Who knows where some of these rumors get started? :?
One thing I'd worry more about is...
When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race. :P
Laughing!!! Enslave the White Race?? Where do you all find this foolishness?? Originally Posted by roadhog
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McCain, on the other hand, has released his records, and has met the requirements, even though, he was born in Panama.
That's just an internet rumor...Originally Posted by Windwalker
`I don't have the link anymore, but I recently read that Obama may not be qualified to be President. He may not have fulfilled the 10 year residency requirement, with 5 years in the US after the age of 16. He has not released his birth records to show that he is qualified.McCain, on the other hand, has released his records, and has met the requirements, even though, he was born in Panama.
Who knows where some of these rumors get started? :?
One thing I'd worry more about is...
When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race. :P
If I actually felt that way, I would be to embrassed to let anyone know!
And as far as Welfare goes, there are just as many people on the high end of society taking hand out from the government as there are on the lower end. It is Subsidized instead of Welfare.
#34
Do you need an Ak 47 or an AR 15, etc to go hunting? No you don't, then again you do not even really need a gun at all do you. You can hunt with a bow or a spear.
IMHO the real issue of gun control and banning this type or that type of gun is where do you draw the line.
The 2nd amendment was placed into the constitution for two reasons. The first is because a well armed population is less likely to be successfully invaded and secondly is because the government is, theoretically, less likely to take advantage of the citizenship.
I have no issues of race or gender on who the president is, but I do not think Obama is what this country needs. McCain on the other hand is not what we need either. Regardless of who wins this nation is in for even rougher times than what we have now. The only difference is what form those times will take.
IMHO the real issue of gun control and banning this type or that type of gun is where do you draw the line.
The 2nd amendment was placed into the constitution for two reasons. The first is because a well armed population is less likely to be successfully invaded and secondly is because the government is, theoretically, less likely to take advantage of the citizenship.
I have no issues of race or gender on who the president is, but I do not think Obama is what this country needs. McCain on the other hand is not what we need either. Regardless of who wins this nation is in for even rougher times than what we have now. The only difference is what form those times will take.
#35
tomasz--RebelDarlin--pigrider
I was trying to be funny. (but take it serious if you'd like) :?
I pointed out an internet rumor...and how they get started.
The the humor was starting my own rumor...
about Obama intending to enslave the White race, once he becomes President. :?
I was trying to be funny. (but take it serious if you'd like) :?
I pointed out an internet rumor...and how they get started.
The the humor was starting my own rumor...
about Obama intending to enslave the White race, once he becomes President. :?
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Who knows where some of these rumors get started?
Originally Posted by what roadhog said about recent Obama rumor---
That's just an internet rumor...Who knows where some of these rumors get started?
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When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race.
Originally Posted by roadhog's attempt to start a new rumor---
One thing I'd worry more about is...When Obama gets elected President...
he intends to enslave the White race.
#36
Obama has a white mother yet he rarely mentions her. He does speak about his racist white grandmother. He does seem to have a hatred for white people in some of his rhetoric.
My main problem with Obama is that I think that he wants to take this country down the wrong path. While he is considered charismatic, so was Hitler. From what I have read he has never held a real job in his life. It is difficult to relate to people who struggle from paycheck to paycheck when you have never been there yourself. I don't care much for McCain, either. I think he is too liberal for the country. We need a strong, moral leader who puts the country first rather than his party or personal agenda. We need a leader who does the right thing regardless of his personal views and isn't afraid of bucking the system. I don't think this is Obama. He talks about change, but doesn't list any of the changes he wants to make. People rally around him because of his charisma, yet have no idea of where he stands on key issues. I have spoken to several people who have voted for him in the primary. They all talk about change, but can't tell me a single thing he wants to change. Change for the sake of change isn't necessarily good. I don't trust him.
My main problem with Obama is that I think that he wants to take this country down the wrong path. While he is considered charismatic, so was Hitler. From what I have read he has never held a real job in his life. It is difficult to relate to people who struggle from paycheck to paycheck when you have never been there yourself. I don't care much for McCain, either. I think he is too liberal for the country. We need a strong, moral leader who puts the country first rather than his party or personal agenda. We need a leader who does the right thing regardless of his personal views and isn't afraid of bucking the system. I don't think this is Obama. He talks about change, but doesn't list any of the changes he wants to make. People rally around him because of his charisma, yet have no idea of where he stands on key issues. I have spoken to several people who have voted for him in the primary. They all talk about change, but can't tell me a single thing he wants to change. Change for the sake of change isn't necessarily good. I don't trust him.
#37
Well I don't pick up his hatred of whites is his message. He was raised by his white side of his family!
Yeah, he talks about his father more than he talks about his mother! That is not race base, we all do that! Maybe he has more respect for his father than his mother. Look at Tim Russert, he always talked about Big Russ and his son, you hardly ever here him speak of his mom.
An as far as his ability to give great speeches. What is wrong with being empowered/inspired for a change instead of fear politics!
People keep saying Hilter gave great speeches, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became one of our best Presidents! On the other hand look at our current President he is SLD (specific language disorder) or dyslexia! And by far he will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history!
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Yeah, he talks about his father more than he talks about his mother! That is not race base, we all do that! Maybe he has more respect for his father than his mother. Look at Tim Russert, he always talked about Big Russ and his son, you hardly ever here him speak of his mom.
An as far as his ability to give great speeches. What is wrong with being empowered/inspired for a change instead of fear politics!
People keep saying Hilter gave great speeches, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became one of our best Presidents! On the other hand look at our current President he is SLD (specific language disorder) or dyslexia! And by far he will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history!
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#38
Twilight Flyer , 06-18-2008 01:11 AM
The Bat Cave
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The the humor was starting my own rumor...
about Obama intending to enslave the White race, once he becomes President.
*GASP* :shock: The the humor was starting my own rumor...
about Obama intending to enslave the White race, once he becomes President.
You mean that's not true? :wink:
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People keep saying Hilter gave great speeches, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became one of our best Presidents! On the other hand look at our current President he is SLD (specific language disorder) or dyslexia! And by far he will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history!
Sorry, Jimmy Carter has a lock on that and there is no more room at the inn. He and his entourage booked that hotel solid for eternity.People keep saying Hilter gave great speeches, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became one of our best Presidents! On the other hand look at our current President he is SLD (specific language disorder) or dyslexia! And by far he will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history!
As far as Obama goes, Pigrider, he might be the bees knees to you, but a lot of people have him figured out and more are doing so every day as the shellac begins to flake off of him. The guy is a snake in the grass and it's my hope that we don't get the chance to find out just how nasty he is.
I agree with G-Man that McCain is too liberal and I originally had no intention of voting for him at all, preferring to do a write-in. But the more of Obama that is exposed, the more I am definitely voting for McCain...anything to keep Obama out of office.
#40
Twilight Flyer , 06-18-2008 02:32 AM
The Bat Cave
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Well I guess neither party has anything to offer this term!
I actually agree with that statement. A lot of people are calling McCain, McSame. But you know something? I'll take more of the same as opposed to the potential abyss that Obama will likely plunge us into.Well I guess neither party has anything to offer this term!
