I still don't remember a runaway ramp on Parley-Must have been sleeping but that is one Hill you DON'T sleep on :P
I think they put 80 over it for the Tourists

I apologize, but as long as they keep setting them up, I feel I have a "moral imperative" to bat them out of the park.

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I have always wondered how the triple digit cowboys know they are doing 110-115 I havent been in a ton of trucks but everyone I have been in has had a gauge that stops usualy at 85 mph

The gauge does not dictate the speed.

As to the initial question regarding how fast have you had your rig...

"On the advice of counsel I stand on the protection granted me by the fifth amendment of the United States Constitution and decline to answer on the grounds I may incriminate myself." You should all have that memorized cuz one day you may ALL need it!

Unless one is perfect and blameless we have all done something, probably many times which, upon calm reflection, we realise was not very wise. I applaud everyone here for their strong safety and professionalism oreinted stance, but answer me this: when the sign says speed limit 55 do you ALWAYS drive 55 or less?!? If you do you are a better man than I Gunga Din. I have always considered my self one of the safest drivers out there, not because "I am so damned good" but because I constantly think about it, live it and breathe it. It is not something you ARE it is something you must DO....actively....every second of every minute of every hour of every day out there...a single moments lapse at any time can be fatal.

My personal prectise is to drive the speed I consider safe...almost never exceeding the posted limit by more than 5mph (tickets cost more than just $$$ you know).

As to the issue of log accuracy, see my legal advice above, but HYPOTHETICALLY....back in the day it was common practise but is much too risky these days, especially with guys driving when they are WAYYY too tired and over hours to be anywhere close to safe. HOS notwithstanding, I have come off a 10 hour break, driven for two hours and felt so sleepy (for whatever reason) that I just pull it in and take a nap even though my log says I have 9 more good hours of driving available. Book larnin' ain't everything guys.

Adhere to the letter of the law as much as possible but it is to the spirit to which all true professionals should strive.

Runaway truck ramps: Rev is right, you will almost NEVER find a competent professional who knows his business on one of those, HOWEVER stuff does break now and again and I ALWAYS make it a point to know where the closest one is JUST IN CASE somethin' do break. A close friend of mine had a U-joint come apart going down a 12% grade...no jake then just "freewheelin" and foundation brakes to count on. Luckily he followed the first rule and was nt going so fast when it happened and had not been riding his service brakes so much that he was able to stop with plenty of air left and only smoked his brakes a little (no fire...just some bad smell). That is the first rule...ride that mountain down so that even if you lose it all you are not going so fast that you cannot take the ditch and live to talk about it. It deosn't really matter if the idiots pass you and give you the finger on the way down...you might see them on that ramp as you pass them later

"You can go down a mountain too slow a hundred times, but you might go down too fast only ONCE"...remember the most valuable cargo in that thing is YOUR BUTT!

One closing thought on high speed.....its fun in a Corvette (albeit still dangerous and illegal) but, if you have ever had a steer blow on you at 55 (as I have) and wrestled your way to the side so you can clean out your drawers imagine for a moment as you hit that triple digit..."what would happen if I lost a steer right NOW!"....perhaps low probability but non-zero nonetheless (and actually decidedly more likely considering the greater heat buildup and other stresses and strains that high speed driving places on tires)...you will be toast my brother!!!

yeah what he said

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who really gives two shits let alone one. nobody cares that you drove 115 miles and you were a trainer.. WOW whooptee dooo... The fact that you say I ran legal... we didn't ask you volunteered.. pretty much just my opinion but a stupid dang post.

Yeah, i realize that the gauge does not dictate the speed but in the even that you get up to 85, anything after that is just speculation as to how fast you are really going, so my question of how do these guys get their numbers when they claim they have done triple digits still stands.....my guess is they dont really know.

You could use your RPM, for example, 2100 on a top gear=100mph..or whatever.
And if you want to be dead sure, just get your engine ECM printout, it will show, the highest speed, you've ever traveled! :wink:

Ah, now those answers make a bit more sense to me, especialy the ecm printout thing. Still not sure i but 115 but I guess it is possible....i cant see myself ever wanting to do that though.

If you ever get the urge to run like that someday just put the thought in your head of What if one of my Steer tires blow.

Blowing steer tires is scary to me even at normal speeds.....that in itself is enough to keep me from the 3 digit range...that and the governor on my truck lol But yeah, no joke on the steer tire comment, you got it right with that answer

He was hauling load to the moon and back

You can get to "115" mph No problem (now where is that nitro button....) Sounds like you are need for speed buddy Lol, nascar for you. (I had to add that to keep this interesting thread going) lol. you just burn up more fuel anyway, and get there like what 10mins faster? lol plus putting everyone's life on the line, you see If you tip over. (even if the road is clear) you will have this huge mess that will cause a giant backup. maybe you will get news time. then we can sit here open a new thread and talk about it Lol. but anyways drive safe thats all. no Need for Speed around here lol.

Going back to yoop's comment on the steer blow out, if the show ever happens to be on again, check out the World's Worst Drivers on TLC. One of their episodes had a truck in the UK going down the road at around 45 mph when he had a steer blow out. The driver did an unbelievable job at keeping the truck not only on the road but off the cars that were directly beside him on the side the steer blew out. I think he just barely left his lane before reeling that hulk back under control. At 45 mph he nearly lost it, at 115 mph, you WILL lose it.

Don't be saying a steer blow out will never happen to you, tires will blow without warning. I had a drive suddenly pop even though it was brand new, turns out a vulcan patch had been put over a hole in the sidewall by the tire maker. Nothing I could do to prevent it from blowing as it was something that I could not see.

Blow a steer at anything like 115mph and you,re dead. Simple as

my mack has a 100mph guage but God knows I have never even come close to pegging it, need longer steeper hill and more cojones!!!! :lol:

"So what have you had your rig up to? :D"

[insert self righteous bullshit here] fapfapfap

So some states had no speed limits for quite some time. So that idiot from Europe claiming every country on the entire continent was limited to 55, hell with the autobahn. So that guy that builds rigs to run Pike's Peak at record speeds and runs the Bonneville salt flats at 225 and gets mad props for it. Hell with pride, WITCH HUNT ALKJFLSKFDJLSDJFLSDJFLSKJDFLSKJDFLSDJFLKSDJF (FAPFAPFAP)

The highest I've had my rig to is a little over 70, going down the side of a big hill.

I've had a couple up around 85-90. Big hills or big hurry, neither loaded though. I may be crazy but I'm not runnin that fast under full load for anything.

66 miles per hour on a clear day.

I topped out at 120mph 1 time heading south to Florida 3 yrs ago. sense then 90 is the best.

100 in Cali, with another black Pete.

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As to the origional question, in a car which I built including the engine complete, 160 mph on my speedo with plenty of pedal left. I-280 n.j. in broad daylight. In my old 97 w900 back in the day 115mph I-81 in va. at 3 am racing another produce hauler and a texas flatbed and I was in last place. Only because they got the jump on me, and when they yelled for me to back out of it ; it was too late; I came around that curb to see a trooper car facing right at me. He had to be asleep because the three of us eased out of it, waited a minute and then floorboarded it and got up to raphine. I was taching 2100 with 3-400rpm left and no intentions of letting up. Those were the good days, I don't haul produce salinas to hunts pt. or chelsea solo in three days, sometimes a flat 52 hrs anymore, reload and be sitting back in L.a. 3 days later. 6- 7 day turnarounds depending on if I reloaded at the brokers whse right away. I used to do 8-10 turns in a row before I took usually 3-4 days off, I was addicted to the money, not drugs. Yes by God's grace over 2-million mi. never an accident, not even a bump, and yes I still ride in the high dollar lane hauling produce but not coast to coast. So figure out the old days and yes I ran more miles than a team in a month, There were a lot of us doing it and you know what I mean and who you are.---Run til daylight!

SPEED
 

OMG! I know it is hard not to speed, but please don't! We don't want to hear that you got killed or killed someone from speeding so darn fast! This is nothing to really brag about! Sorry but this made me kringe(sp?)

You ever see a dog get hit by a truck doing 85 mph plus? I have it's not pretty. In 1989 I was running with some Oliver Trans./Pete Oliver drivers (I'll show my age),across hwy 36 now interstate 72 in Illinois abot 1 a.m. in the morning,there was 4 of us I was trailing behind last 2 Pete's, then a Freightliner then myself.The guy in one of the Pete's went by "Big C" and the guy in the Freightliner went by "Shadraque", Big C hollered back and told him "Look out for that ~#@%^ dog" it was too late. I know my speedo was buried past 85, my guess is we was doing about 90 to 95. We were all hauling 45,000 # steel coils out of Rouge Steel in Dearborn Mi. so hitting the brakes wasn't much of an option. Now maybe if some old steel haulers from Mexico Mo. area read this they'll know who I'm talking about. Back in them days you could make some decent money running your azz off. Hauling poverty rock(fire brick used in Blast Furnaces) to steel mills in Gary In., Detroit Mi., and Cleveland Oh., then usually reloading the same plant you unloaded at and head back towards Sedalia or Kansas City Mo. 3 to 4 rounds in a week weren't uncommon( about 4500 to 6000 miles a week). In order to make that kind of time you had to run like that(only if you wanted to by choice) if you wanted to make some big money. Of course that was then and this is now, you people read some of these stories and doubt them how do you actually know unless you was there? Old School back in the day,of course back then drivers were a little different from nowadays. You had bird dogs and scanners/jammers instead of cell phones and laptops. You didn't have to beg someone for a bear report,or D O T, scalehouse whatever. Nowadays you're lucky to get someone who will comeback at all.

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Oh believe me this topped at 120 and was down to the speed limit of 70 faster than you could say SLOW DOWN. Just a 1 time thing to see where it topped off at. Never had near that sense and this was 3 yrs ago..

If I remember right I think my speedo highest # was 80 or something like that. But I had it right up there against the bottom of the gage goin down the mountain in Flagstaff. I had to be goin inexcess of 100 mph

First off zz4guy I think your a idiot for even asking that question. Second off I think anyone who attempts trying to see how fast their truck can go is a moron. It not only puts the dumb a$$ driver in danger it put every other person on the road in danger. Drivers who feel the need to do this give all of us drivers bad names. It seems that the only one who has any common sense in here is rev.

I was riding shotgun going 107mph one time out west. I would hate to think what would happen if we had blown a steer tire :shock:

I've "only" been up past 85 a few times, in a good truck, it feels just like any other speed but I don't do it anymore, I feel I was young and stupid.

One day I was cruising along about 70 mph WB near Winnemucca and along comes this cowboy in a 53' with three different hazmat placards, each of them enough to raise an eyebrow by itself, and he is blasting along in the left lane passing me and everyone else like they were standing still. It was quite a sight to see.

Birken

Sure you did :roll:

I kinda agree ,my "speed demon era" was when I was fairly new to trucking and didn't know any better,tried to impress other drivers who were on the cb "braggin" bout leavin' me behind and wantin to fit in with "drivers" I didn't even know or ever seen. Just what I heard on the cb and ASSUMED they were very close to me and I didn't want 2 appear "chicken". I was actually "insulted",teased,harassed,etc for using my brakes on downgrades.The ignorant uneducated hillbillies thought they were king shit.I kick myself in the ass now for allowing them to influence me in such a unsafe and stupid way of driving. that was close to 20 yrs ago. Maybe that is why 2day I actually HATE my job and the drvrs. out there! Sorry jus my feelings dudes!

I fail to see what the point is in knowing "how fast the truck will go". What purpose does it serve?

So you can talk alot of sh*t on the CB. 8)

You can talk the sh*t without actually doing it.

Ok, Hi all… I’m new to this forum and…. Oh well…. You’ll get over it…

Introductions are in order:
I’m a driver with some 21+ years and 2.5 million+ miles under my belt… mostly flatbed and stepdecks but, I’ve also pulled reefers, dry vans, stretch trailers, dump trailers and pneumatic tanks. I’ve literally hauled almost everything there is to haul (don't we all say this though 8) ) on a truck from steel & lumber of any and all types to an airplane and yes, even the kitchen sink. I’ve hauled heavy, long, wide and high. I can’t say accident free but, I can say that my accident was not my fault… and I was not speeding !

I don’t drive OTR any more. I do still drive though… a concrete mixer.
I drive a truck that gets loaded with a liquid load that is constantly moving (revolving). When loaded my truck weighs approx. 65,000 #s legally. My truck has one 20,000 # steer axle, two drive axles and one fold down tag axle. And “TOP HEAVY” is always an issue.

I learned to drive in 1983 running not only 48 states but, running snow & ice in the mountains. I had thousands of miles under my belt before I ever applied for a learners permit. No truck driving school taught me to drive.
I’ve driven through snow & ice storms that you 2… 3… and even 5 year rookies can’t even imagine. Before you even think it (“you should have parked and waited it out”) understand this… Parking is not always an available option.

Yes, I used to be one of those “Super Truckers” that you steering wheel holders like to bad mouth. I’ve dodged probably every scale in this country and maybe one or two in Canada as well. I’ve snuck into So. Cal without authority… delivered, reloaded and escaped without issues. I’ve left Washington DC loaded wide and heavy (90,000 +) and delivered safely in Iowa without waiting for the proper permits (That were supposed to be ready and waiting for me !) for my own reasons… I used to load (regularly) in Oregon… 84,000 #s and deliver to points in Va. Nc. and Sc. without issues. Once, I even drove without a license for 6 months because the scales on I-70 west of St. Peters Mo. took them for no good reason.

You might say that “I’ve been there and done that”.

And despite what many of you may think, I always recieved a lot of respect from my dispatchers and boss’ where ever I worked… as well as the respect of the drivers that I ran with or helped out on the side of the highway… or pulled out of the ditch or whatever. I also received respect from many of the officers that pulled me over… Not all… but many... as well as a few scale house officers that had the pleasure of argueing with me and seeing me win... although they didn't like me in Tn. at the scales west of Nashville... Supervisor said "Get that son-of-a-Bitch out of here". Screw him anyway... I was right and there wasn't anything that he could do about it.

Some of you people are really something else.

This thread has rustled a few of my whiskers so, here goes…

Zz4guy:
You’ve done 100 mph in your camaro… oh boy ! Just how old are you… I get the feeling that your a 17 or 18 year old trucker wannabee. (I see that you claim to be an engineer) Now don’t be offended… Hey, that’s O.K… we all started somewhere… and I, myself, was a wannabee at the age of 3.
Your quote: “Personally I'd rather be trained by somebody who's pushed the machine to its limits”
This in itself is a good idea but, not for the reasons you claimed… down hill grades are something that you just don’t train for… believe me YOU DON’T.
If you ever end up barreling down a grade faster than you want too, you will just have to improvise….
YOU TRAIN TO GO DOWN A GRADE PROPERLY….
NOT IMPROPERLY !!!
See "Intro to truckin 101"... http://www.newbiedriver.com/articles/intro_trucking.htm

Speeding in a big truck isn’t just for fun… it can be dangerous.

Have I traveled at a “HIGH RATE OF FUEL CONSUMPTION” ??? I’ll tell you later in this post although, you probably have already made up your mind that I have...

Ironeagle2006:
Epilepsy is a good reason to “RETIRE” from trucking. The fact that you use the word “FORCED” seems to reflect that you don’t agree with the decision… If you’ve got the miles that you say you do then you should agree that anyone with epilepsy doesn’t belong in a truck… too many things can go wrong…. Right ! A wise man would re-write his signature.
Not getting your med’s ontime is the biggest and easiest problem. I personally know about this little issue…as I used to take anti-depressants… when you run out of med’s on the road it can be a real bitch dealing with the withdraw symptoms until you get home to get your refill. And I don’t care what the Walgreens commercials say… you cant get certain medications from anyplace other than where your doctor faxed the prescription to.
Been there… Done that.

One other thing Ironeagle2006… claiming miles under YOUR belt that SOMEONE ELSE drove is a chicken shit way to build you own reputation… trainer or not.

Yoopr:
You’d better go re-check Parley… it’s there.
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Rev.vassago:
Sir, aren’t you a bit arrogant…. maybe a bit hipicritical even ?
Runaway ramps are for ANYONE who has trouble on the grade… whether it be an idiot who thinks that he’s indestructible or a driver who’s equipment has failed him (or her). Equipment failures are unfortunate (and many avoidable) but they do happen.
The more I read of your posts… the more I doubt that you can even drive a truck.

Jagerbomber:
If you were truly a “Super Trucker” you’d know the answer to your question regarding how those triple digit cowboys know how fast they were going…
It’s simple…
It’s called VASCAR…. Remember what that is…?
Before RADAR was ever used, the police used to use VASCAR (Visual Average Speed Computer And Recorder). http://www.vascar.com The concept is really a stopwatch coupled with a calculator.
It’s simple… The # of seconds in an hour (60 seconds X 60 minutes = 3600 seconds) divided by the # of seconds it takes to travel one mile. This is actually more accurate over a longer distance… say 10 miles or so. It’s simple math. And yes, I carried a stopwatch (of sorts) in my truck all the time. Speedometers are notorious for being wrong ! I always checked every truck that I was issued so that I KNEW what my actual speed was without having to be told by a HIGHWAY PATROL officer.

P.S. There are 150 mph speedometers out there… just ask your local Peterbilt or Kenworth dealer. They can be bought and installed.

Traveler15301:
You sound like a real driver… possibly even a trucker. (A trucker and a Steeringwheel Holder are two different things entirely).
But, I’d like to address the issue about the steer tire blowing out. Bare with me please.
I’m not condoning high speed trailer truckin’ to the bunch of drivers out there today… but, there are still some who can and will do it.

One has to have SOME (even a little) understanding of physics here to understand what I’m about to explain.

Ever seen a dragster being launched off of the starting line…?
What happens… ? The front of the car lifts up off of the ground… he pulls a “wheelie”. Right ! What’s actually happening here though ?
We’re talking about torque. As the engine produces power or force… this force is transferred through the driveline to the axle. As the force to the axle is increased the weight (or downward pressure) on the steer tires is decreased. This happens with every vehicle… EVERY VEHICLE.
In a truck traveling down the highway, the amount of downward pressure on the steer axle is less while the vehicle is in an “ACCELERATION” mode than if it were sitting still. That same pressure would be “MORE” while in the “DECELERATION” mode which explains why your nose dips down when you hit the brakes. The faster the truck is accelerating, the lighter the pressure on the steer axle. At high speeds the steer axle is actually floating on the road… this effect is what causes “HYDROPLANING” on wet pavement.
If a driver is aware of this concept… while a steer tire blows… he need only apply the trailer brakes gently (PROVIDED HE/SHE HAS A TROLLY BAR) to keep the front end of his/her tractor “UP” while decreasing the vehicles speed.
Now you can say what you want too but, when I’m doing something that I think might be a bit risky… I want to know how to reduce the risk as much as possible

Top quality steer tires in very good condition are an absolute must too, not no cheap junk.

Random Facts:
Anyone who travels at triple digits for just a few miles here and there is just doing it for the kicks… It is stupid and yes, they are not saving any time… just wasting fuel. The drivers who speeding for a living are doing it “FOR EXTENDED” periods of time… many many miles. They don’t stop at every truckstop as the story goes but, rather … keep the left door closed and the hammer down…. Gougin’ on it !!! And they aren’t worried about their 11 on and 10 off or whatever the HOS rules are these days either. They are “TRAILER TRUCKIN”. And I can speak from experience … you can make up a lot of time doing this…this is how I often made my sleep time but, it’s not for everybody. Not everybody’s bodys are accustomed to working for 18 – 20+ hours a day like some are…

A little something else here “IT’S A PROVEN FACT THAT SPEED DOES NOT CAUSE ACCIDENTS. ACCIDENTS ARE CAUSED BY DRIVER ERROR AND OR NEGLECT” This statement told to me by a Minnesota State Highway Patrol officer while he was writing me a WARNING ticket for 15 mph over posted. The only reason he even pulled me over (according to him) was because I “blabbed” his location on the C.B. radio… “If you would have kept your big mouth shut… I’d have left you alone !”

Jiptwoo:
Yea Buddy ! Gougin’ on it aye ! You’re a true trucker from “back in the day”.

Dawn - Super Trucker:
Get real girl…….Your not a super trucker by any means….. you’re a steering wheel holder…. If it’s O.K. with you then it’s O.K. with me… but, stay out of the way.

Nightprwlr:
Yes, I have…. Not a dog though… does a deer count ?
90 mph… west bound on I-94 in Montana… Wee dark hours in the morning…I had leaned over in my 359 Pete to spit in the waste basket (had a bad cold and was coughing up phlem). When I came back up there she was… in the middle of the road… nothing to do but hit her…. Dead center.
Nothing left of that deer to even come out of behind the trailer… according to the driver following me. Not a dent or scratch in my Pete either… just a bunch of raw meat and hair. I had a “Bulldozer Blade” under my Big Chrome Texas Square bumper. Really, a 9/16” thick plate of steel welded and braced with 2” square steel tube tucked in behind that big ol’ bumper.

Hey Nightprwlr… I remember Pete Oliver Trucking…
Do you remember Bell Trucking in Auxvasse ? I drove for George Schaffer leased to Bell… Fire brick from Mexico, Fulton and Vandalia (I think) going to Chicago, Detroit & Cleveland… Steel coils or rebar back to K.C. or there abouts… put a lot of miles across hwy 54.
I used to leave out on Sunday and arrive back on the following Saturday morning. 4 hours (total) sleep while on the road and a good nights sleep on Saturday night. Lots of miles too…

Stinkyfinger:
Your just plain stupid for going down Flag at 100+ mph… just plain stupid.
Glad to see that you feel differently about it now… ?


Now then……………………….As for the rest of you so-called drivers… personally, I think that most of you are all a bunch of steering wheel holders… but, that ain’t all bad… The times are different now and the days of Super Truckin’ are almost over. There’s not as much space on the roads as there used to be…. Too many four wheelers and way too many “Stupid Truckers” that think it’s funny to pull out into the left lane after checking their mirror and seeing that a“Large Car” is coming up the rear.
REAL STUPID !!!

REAL F#$%ING STUPID !!!

But, many of you so-called “PROFESSIONALS” think that this is amusing… Really now, who is dangerous ? Me in the left lane doing 75 or whatever just trying to do my job… or the guy that waits for me to catch up behind him in the left lane (watching me in his mirror) and turns his truck into my lane causing me to slam on the brakes, knowing full well what he’s done… and why he’s done it… Who’s the dangerous driver ?

Dipshits anyway !!!

Aside from many company trucks (most of which never exceeded 79) I owned two trucks myself... a 1987 359 Classic Numbered Peterbilt and also a 1997 Freightliner classic condo. The Pete had a 425 manual with a 15 double over and 355s... the condo had a 500 detroit with a 13 and 370s... the pete would top out around 120 or more... the condo topped out at 97.6 mph.

The difference between a "big truck" and a "large Car" is:
A big truck will climb a mountian as fast as it can... :lol:
A large car will climb that same mountian as fast as it wants too... :P :P :P

Have I ever drove at higher than posted speeds ???

402 miles across the state of Wyoming in 5 hours flat…State line to state line… loaded.

85 mph across OHIO on I-70 around 2:am (Wee hours) with an Ohio State Patrol running the front door… He was following me talking to me on the C.B…. I suggested that he run the front door… and he did !
go ahead… call me a liar.

85-90 mph west bound on I-40 in Az. (again… wee hours) State patrol said over “his” radio (not a C.B.) heard on my scanner… “Keep your foot into it driver, your doing a fine job”. I had no idea he was behind me… and he didn’t have any lights on either !!! Sneaky little guy.
Again, call me a liar.


Too many stories to tell….
Why a driver is driving faster than you might feel comfortable with is none of your business… just stay out of the way and pray for him or her.

That driver might be trying to get to a hospital to see his spouse or child after receiving a phone call from an emergency room. (My wife had to do this once… in her camaro……)

That driver might be trying to deliver a critical load for someone special…
Remember Desert Storm… I could tell you a story about this… but, I save you the trouble…
Suffice it to say….Army Depot in Tooele Ut. to Kennedy airport on Long Island in NY city in 57 hours… via Effingham Il. with a stop in south west Neb. to service tractor & trailer per boss’ request. My route proved to be 2665 miles… 57 hours… not a single cop anywhere the whole trip… not even Ohio.
Below are the basics of that load.

Military load (27 loads to be exact)… 18 crates per truck…30” x 30” x 22’ long each.
Must go…
Must be received…
Country at war…
Tomahawk missles… Any questions…?
High Speed Trailer Truckin’ ain’t for everybody… but, it can be done safely.

Oh, last but not least… that driver that you condemn for driving faster than you, he/she might just be trying to support his/her family and make his/her mortgage and truck payments.
Everybody isn’t as fortunate as you might be… everybodys needs are not the same as yours are… and everybodys skills are not as limited as yours might be…

SAFTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A ISSUE WITH ME… WHATEVER SPEED I WAS DRIVING………… FAST … OR SLOW……………………

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Only in your dreams Rev.... Only in your dreams. :roll: :dung: